2023 Draft Discussion

[lilidk]

As a somewhat casual draft follower who knows about 20-30 propects going into each draft, i was unaware of him (johnston) at the time. Had no idea dallas got such a steal.

Edit: was hoping for 1 or both of stankoven and raty that draft with later picks.

Everybody says this draft is very deep and we have 5 picks in first 2rounds, hope Yzerman use them wisely

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Where do you have him ranked for now? This draft is so stacked.

Late 1st to early 2nd. I could see him getting selected 25 to 45.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Red wings top brass (yzerman + others) were at Honzeks last game where they were eliminated (honzek had 3 assists). I’ve been telling you guys honzek for awhile in here without much mention by anyone else. Be ready for him to potentially to be our pick with our second 1st rounder.

 

[SantosHalper]

Red wings top brass (yzerman + others) were at Honzeks last game where they were eliminated (honzek had 3 assists). I’ve been telling you guys honzek for awhile in here without much mention by anyone else. Be ready for him to potentially to be our pick with our second 1st rounder.

Potential Ras's replacement, Ras takes Bert's role and Honzek takes the 3rd line center role. Honzek has been my 2nd round pick in those draft simulators, but he's not going drop that far. Funny how i just saw a mock draft where Red Wings picked Dvorsky and Honzek.

 

[Realgud]

Red wings top brass (yzerman + others) were at Honzeks last game where they were eliminated (honzek had 3 assists). I’ve been telling you guys honzek for awhile in here without much mention by anyone else. Be ready for him to potentially to be our pick with our second 1st rounder.

I like Honzek a lot. He's a monster. A big dude who can skate, deke and absolutely shoot. His passing is good but inconsistent. Hard to say if he's a center or winger at the next level.

 

[NickH8]

I like Honzek a lot. He's a monster. A big dude who can skate, deke and absolutely shoot. His passing is good but inconsistent. Hard to say if he's a center or winger at the next level.

Tbh I think he's a winger. I wouldn't say he's a dumb player but he's not a super smart player either. He's a guy that's really reliant on his tools. I think he's smart enough to be a good NHLer though. I agree that he could be a similar player to Rasmussen. He'd be worth a look with the isles pick imo.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Red wings top brass (yzerman + others) were at Honzeks last game where they were eliminated (honzek had 3 assists). I’ve been telling you guys honzek for awhile in here without much mention by anyone else. Be ready for him to potentially to be our pick with our second 1st rounder.

His injuries this year worry me. I wouldn't mind him with the islanders pick though.

 

[ZDH]

Lardis killing it for Hamilton in rd 1. So pissed the Petes let him go. Really hope he's there when we pick in rd 2.

 

[WaW]

I just want a center. Keep drafting centers until we have a top 10 center in the league. It's not really feasible to pretend you can win a cup without that top tier elite franchise center, unless you have the greatest goal scorer of all time on the wing supporting a 1C in Larkin's tier (i.e. Ovechkin on Backstrom's wing).

Also refuse to fault Yzerman for now getting one until he legitimately passes one of those guys by without getting a stud elsewhere. The only player that may fit the criteria of opportunity so far was Zegras, and I mean we got Seider instead, a clear franchise 1D, so that's perfectly fine.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Lardis killing it for Hamilton in rd 1. So pissed the Petes let him go. Really hope he's there when we pick in rd 2.

Ditto, but probably not.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Lardis killing it for Hamilton in rd 1. So pissed the Petes let him go. Really hope he's there when we pick in rd 2.

Conmy out of the USHL is a similar player and could be there in the 2nd if Lardis isn't.

 

[lilidk]

I just want a center. Keep drafting centers until we have a top 10 center in the league. It's not really feasible to pretend you can win a cup without that top tier elite franchise center, unless you have the greatest goal scorer of all time on the wing supporting a 1C in Larkin's tier (i.e. Ovechkin on Backstrom's wing).

Also refuse to fault Yzerman for now getting one until he legitimately passes one of those guys by without getting a stud elsewhere. The only player that may fit the criteria of opportunity so far was Zegras, and I mean we got Seider instead, a clear franchise 1D, so that's perfectly fine.

Remembering that draft I wish Turcotte was available, Zegras was my second choice. But we got the best one and no one could predict it

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Remembering that draft I wish Turcotte was available, Zegras was my second choice. But we got the best one and no one could predict it

Wanted him as well.

 

[DanielMarois]

My worry with smaller guys who are tenacious like Leonard is that many of seem to get injured a lot at the NHL level

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Remembering that draft I wish Turcotte was available, Zegras was my second choice. But we got the best one and no one could predict it

I hated Turcotte that draft. He was the 2C on that powerhouse team and I just felt he was carried by his wingers on offense.

 

[Hawaiibros]

How about we just win the lottery and pick bedard?

 

[WaW]

Remembering that draft I wish Turcotte was available, Zegras was my second choice. But we got the best one and no one could predict it

Yeah I remember the Turcotte hype around here particularly from USA Hockey fans (ie USNDT followers). Alot of people even thought he was gonna be better than Hughes. Probably the most overrated prospect by these boards ever.

I'm not here to shame anyone though, I admittedly was on the Kakko > Hughes train myself, so I get it lol.

 

[lilidk]

Yeah I remember the Turcotte hype around here particularly from USA Hockey fans (ie USNDT followers). Alot of people even thought he was gonna be better than Hughes. Probably the most overrated prospect by these boards ever.

I'm not here to shame anyone though, I admittedly was on the Kakko > Hughes train myself, so I get it lol.

That's the beauty of drafting 18 year old, you never know how they will progress

 

[SantosHalper]

I just want a center. Keep drafting centers until we have a top 10 center in the league.

Or select BPAs and when the time is right, trade the surplus prospects for a center. Or they even might get the center with one of BPA picks.

 

[lilidk]

Or select BPAs and when the time is right, trade the surplus prospects for a center. Or they even might get the center with one of BPA picks.

When you draft center , you don't know if he is, THE ONE, your number one c enter, but if he is you don't trade him.

 

[SantosHalper]

When you draft center , you don't know if he is, THE ONE, your number one c enter, but if he is you don't trade him.

Circumstances can change, a player might want to leave or a player's team started a rebuild or a player's team is in the cap crunch. In all of those case's teams want prospects and picks, when the time is right Red Wings will have both, surplus prospects and picks to trade for.
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Dalibor Dvorsky is in Slovakia's U18 WJC team, he is number 1 in my scouting list. I like his defensive game, it's already in very good level but im not completely sold on his offensive side yet. But he does sound like a complete package, something what Yzerman is usually very interested in. Skating has been said as his biggest weakness but it's not a deal braker, skating can be develop with the right coach.

"The Slovak centre has the size, strength, skill and competitiveness to project as a solid two-way No. 2 NHL centre, equally adept at scoring goals and making plays." - Bob Mckenzie
Sounds familiar.... sounds very much what the organization values on a player.

 

[Perfect Human]

Man, wanting the islanders to not make the playoffs so their pick is higher means wanting the Pens to make the playoffs. Rough life.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

Man, wanting the islanders to not make the playoffs so their pick is higher means wanting the Pens to make the playoffs. Rough life.

It's like us towards the end of the playoff streak. They'll get destroyed in the 1st round and have a big struggle to make it next season.

 

[Leadzedder]

Man, wanting the islanders to not make the playoffs so their pick is higher means wanting the Pens to make the playoffs. Rough life.

A few games back it seemed that if NYI missed the playoffs the pick would shoot down to 14ish. With the islanders record of late, if they do happen to miss the playoffs that pick might only drop one spot. (Assuming they don’t make it to 3rd round).

If it comes down to the final day and Pitts getting in changes the draft spot by 1 spot then I’ll take the worse draft spot.

 

[Leadzedder]

It's like us towards the end of the playoff streak. They'll get destroyed in the 1st round and have a big struggle to make it next season.

One thing that isn’t talked about much (not to derail this draft thread) is that DET had such a tough rebuild because they had all their main guys finish their career as wings. No jumpstart to their rebuild from picks acquired from aging stars. It felt right but lead to a more painful process.

If the Pens do the same they are in for some tough years.