2023 Draft Discussion

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Any overages you guys like, because you know, We probably going to get 2 of them
Here is my overage team:

LW -- Hannes Hellberg C -- Cole Knuble RW -- Nestor Noiva
LD -- Oskar Asplund RD -- Hudson Thornton (technically another LD)
G -- Cameron Korpi


Just for fun my 65 and over team

Juraj Pekarcik Carey Terrance Cam Squires

Paul Fischer Kaden Hammell
Hampton Slukynsky
 
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Bultman burns us in his first mock of the season. Has the Wings taking Leonard at 9 with Benson, Dvorsky, Yager and Barlow still on the board and then has them taking Simashev at 19 with Ritchie, Wood, and Cristall still available.

Dont like the Leonard pick with who was still there and hate the Simashev pick because we already have a million LHD prospects.

Top 10 was Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith, Reinbacher, Moore, Danielson, Leonard, Yager...

To his credit, he floats the idea of using our draft capital to move up from 19 to get someone like Barlow at 12...but even without trading, I feel like we could hit some homeruns with who was just sitting there. Want a high end C and then a gamble on skill? Dvorsky or Yager at 9 and Cristall at 19. Want high end skill and then a safer C? Benson at 9 and Ritchie at 19. Want size and goal scoring? Barlow at 9 and Wood at 19. Any of these combos would provide a chance at injecting something that is missing from the franchise.
 

Bultman burns us in his first mock of the season. Has the Wings taking Leonard at 9 with Benson, Dvorsky, Yager and Barlow still on the board and then has them taking Simashev at 19 with Ritchie, Wood, and Cristall still available.

Dont like the Leonard pick with who was still there and hate the Simashev pick because we already have a million LHD prospects.

Top 10 was Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith, Reinbacher, Moore, Danielson, Leonard, Yager...
Pfft... Bultman. How is Detroit going to pick Leonard at 9 when they're going to win the lottery and draft in the top 2? :D
 

Bultman burns us in his first mock of the season. Has the Wings taking Leonard at 9 with Benson, Dvorsky, Yager and Barlow still on the board and then has them taking Simashev at 19 with Ritchie, Wood, and Cristall still available.

Dont like the Leonard pick with who was still there and hate the Simashev pick because we already have a million LHD prospects.

Top 10 was Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith, Reinbacher, Moore, Danielson, Leonard, Yager...

To his credit, he floats the idea of using our draft capital to move up from 19 to get someone like Barlow at 12...but even without trading, I feel like we could hit some homeruns with who was just sitting there. Want a high end C and then a gamble on skill? Dvorsky or Yager at 9 and Cristall at 19. Want high end skill and then a safer C? Benson at 9 and Ritchie at 19. Want size and goal scoring? Barlow at 9 and Wood at 19. Any of these combos would provide a chance at injecting something that is missing from the franchise.
Ugh. I like Leonard, but I would be really upset at Simashev over Wood or Cristall.
 

Bultman burns us in his first mock of the season. Has the Wings taking Leonard at 9 with Benson, Dvorsky, Yager and Barlow still on the board and then has them taking Simashev at 19 with Ritchie, Wood, and Cristall still available.

Dont like the Leonard pick with who was still there and hate the Simashev pick because we already have a million LHD prospects.

Top 10 was Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith, Reinbacher, Moore, Danielson, Leonard, Yager...

To his credit, he floats the idea of using our draft capital to move up from 19 to get someone like Barlow at 12...but even without trading, I feel like we could hit some homeruns with who was just sitting there. Want a high end C and then a gamble on skill? Dvorsky or Yager at 9 and Cristall at 19. Want high end skill and then a safer C? Benson at 9 and Ritchie at 19. Want size and goal scoring? Barlow at 9 and Wood at 19. Any of these combos would provide a chance at injecting something that is missing from the franchise.
Dang they got Danielson going that early. He's my favourite forward after the big 4.
Any overages you guys like, because you know, We probably going to get 2 of them
Dont know if he's draft eligible anymore but Wiktor Nilsson of Djurgardens plays like we thought Albin Grewe would.

Pesky Right hander who played about half his games this season at center with an eye for goal. Had a very similar season to Carter Mazur.
 
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Bultman burns us in his first mock of the season. Has the Wings taking Leonard at 9 with Benson, Dvorsky, Yager and Barlow still on the board and then has them taking Simashev at 19 with Ritchie, Wood, and Cristall still available.

Dont like the Leonard pick with who was still there and hate the Simashev pick because we already have a million LHD prospects.

Top 10 was Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith, Reinbacher, Moore, Danielson, Leonard, Yager...

To his credit, he floats the idea of using our draft capital to move up from 19 to get someone like Barlow at 12...but even without trading, I feel like we could hit some homeruns with who was just sitting there. Want a high end C and then a gamble on skill? Dvorsky or Yager at 9 and Cristall at 19. Want high end skill and then a safer C? Benson at 9 and Ritchie at 19. Want size and goal scoring? Barlow at 9 and Wood at 19. Any of these combos would provide a chance at injecting something that is missing from the franchise.
Leonard is OK but if Benson were available I definitely wouldn't pass on him. Those other guys you list I'd take Leonard ahead of.

Simashev I just can't see us picking.
 
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Bultman burns us in his first mock of the season. Has the Wings taking Leonard at 9 with Benson, Dvorsky, Yager and Barlow still on the board and then has them taking Simashev at 19 with Ritchie, Wood, and Cristall still available.

Dont like the Leonard pick with who was still there and hate the Simashev pick because we already have a million LHD prospects.

Top 10 was Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith, Reinbacher, Moore, Danielson, Leonard, Yager...

To his credit, he floats the idea of using our draft capital to move up from 19 to get someone like Barlow at 12...but even without trading, I feel like we could hit some homeruns with who was just sitting there. Want a high end C and then a gamble on skill? Dvorsky or Yager at 9 and Cristall at 19. Want high end skill and then a safer C? Benson at 9 and Ritchie at 19. Want size and goal scoring? Barlow at 9 and Wood at 19. Any of these combos would provide a chance at injecting something that is missing from the franchise.

Leonard is better than Barlow. Might be better than Yager and Dvorsky.

‘Skill’ is a lot more than a player’s toe drags per 60. You’re definitely underrating Leonard’s game.
 
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Hope they draft Jayden Perron with the second first round pick, added bonus you can just give him David Perron's jersey when he retires
Perron and Perreault are my faves for the second puck if available. I guess Cristall above them if he falls.
 
Kucherov in his draft year wouldn't have struck me as an Yzerman pick.

We need high skill offense. Cristall provides that. Lots of warts, but he will produce.

Drouin. That's who he reminds me of. Warts and all.

I wouldn't pick him in the 1st, maybe a 2nd.
 
Updated list. This time I will go to 32. Lots of movement in my top 20 I posted before, mostly due to players rising and not falling. But is a guy who fell a lot simply due to the guys around him rising. Overall I think there are 19 guys in this draft that I would consider "top 10 picks" in most drafts. Really impressive.
Also, I've been really hard on Smith, but he's continued to increase my view of him. I'll stop being stubborn about him.

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1. Connor Bedard[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Regina Pats[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2. Matvei Michkov[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]HK Sochi[/TD]
[TD]KHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3. Adam Fantilli[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]University of Michigan[/TD]
[TD]B1G[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4. Leo Carlsson[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Orebro HK[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5. Zach Benson[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Winnipeg Ice[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6. Andrew Cristall[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Kelowna Rockets[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7. Will Smith[/TD]
[TD]C/RW[/TD]
[TD]USNTDP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8. Oliver Moore[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]USNTDP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9. David Reinbacher[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]EHC Kloten[/TD]
[TD]NL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10. Nate Danielson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Brandon Wheat Kings[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11. Colby Barlow[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Owen Sound Attack[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12. Ryan Leonard[/TD]
[TD]C/RW[/TD]
[TD]USNTDP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13. Eduard Sale[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]HC Kometa Brno[/TD]
[TD]Czechia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14. Samuel Honzek[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Vancouver Giants[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15. Gavin Brindley[/TD]
[TD]C/RW[/TD]
[TD]University of Michigan[/TD]
[TD]B1G[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16. Riley Heidt[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Prince George Cougars[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17. Dalibor Dvorsky[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]AIK[/TD]
[TD]Hockey Allsvenskan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18. Daniil But[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Loko-76 Yaroslavl[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19. Jayden Perron[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Chicago Steel[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20. Gabe Perreault[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]USNTDP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21. Quentin Musty[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Sudbury Wolves[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22. Koehn Ziemmer[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Prince George Cougars[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23. Brayden Yager[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Moose Jaw Warriors[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24. Dmitri Simashev[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Lokomotiv Yaroslavl[/TD]
[TD]KHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25. Oscar Fisker Molgaard[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]HV71[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26. Matthew Wood[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]UCONN[/TD]
[TD]Hockey East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]27. Felix Nilsson[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Rogle BK[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]28. Otto Stenberg[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Frolunda HC[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]29. David Edstrom[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Frolunda HC[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30. Mikhail Gulyayev[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Omskie Yastreby[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]31. Tanner Molendyk[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Saskatoon Blades[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]32. Timur Mukhanov[/TD]
[TD]C/RW[/TD]
[TD]Omskie Krylia[/TD]
[TD]VHL[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Really grew on Sale and Yager since my last list. But fell a bit. Perron and Perreault rise a little. Honzek falls just a little bit. Some shuffling in my bottom third of the 1st. Nilsson, Tenberg, Edstrom, Gulyayev, and Muhkanov are at the top of my 2nd round now.
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Drouin. That's who he reminds me of. Warts and all.

I wouldn't pick him in the 1st, maybe a 2nd.
I think he'll be somewhere in between. I'm willing to roll the dice on him pretty high.
 
Really grew on Sale and Yager since my last list. But fell a bit. Perron and Perreault rise a little. Honzek falls just a little bit. Some shuffling in my bottom third of the 1st. Nilsson, Tenberg, Edstrom, Gulyayev, and Muhkanov are at the top of my 2nd round now.View attachment 678657


I think he'll be somewhere in between. I'm willing to roll the dice on him pretty high.
I get it. I personally, would not.
 
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Really grew on Sale and Yager since my last list. But fell a bit. Perron and Perreault rise a little. Honzek falls just a little bit. Some shuffling in my bottom third of the 1st. Nilsson, Tenberg, Edstrom, Gulyayev, and Muhkanov are at the top of my 2nd round now.View attachment 678657


I think he'll be somewhere in between. I'm willing to roll the dice on him pretty high.
Forgot to mention I slid Fantilli above Michkov. He's really impressed me in the NCAA tournament.
 
My mock, for Detroit.

Too early for more than 2 rounds.

1st: Barlow
1st: Brindley
2nd: Kantserov
2nd: Allen
2nd: Cataford
 
Leonard is OK but if Benson were available I definitely wouldn't pass on him. Those other guys you list I'd take Leonard ahead of.

agreed. if benson was still on the board, i'd be pretty miffed if we passed on him. i have nothing against leonard and would pick him over the rest of the options there, but benson is a top five name in the draft for me.
 
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