2023 Draft Discussion
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lilidk
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Nice mock draft, but if I draft today #8, I would choose between Moore, Leonard and Reinbacher. Pretty much after top 5 is total mess, about 20 players could be go anywhere
Henkka
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It's not a mock, that's a talent rank.
Think I have to upgrade that Bedard height to 5'10, I started making the first rank 2 years ago, and then he was smaller.
wingerdinger
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Disagree, teams depending on circumstances, philosophy ,structure, connections ect invest more scouting resources in certain regions then others.
And your moving the goalposts you said everybody on this forum knew exactly how good seider would be. which is complete bs. Search Sportnet's coverage of Seider's draft on youtube and you will see that the wings picking him at 6 took a lot of people off gaurd.
GarlicbreadTB
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If Moore and Reinbacher would be our 2 1st round picks and I'll be dancing in the streets.
wingerdinger
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Dont see how Reinbacher would still be available come our 2nd first.
I'd be very happy with a
our own first: Smith/Reinbacher
NYI 1st: Danielson/Ritchie
And if we dont land DR we get Tom Willander with one of our seconds.
GarlicbreadTB
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If the Wings are hot on Reinbacher or other players I guess they could trade up. They've showed they're willing to do it with Cossa 2 years ago.
Not sure where Reinbacher is expected to go.
wingerdinger
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If he drops to a decent range. It'll be a no brainer. But i suspect he'll go top 10.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Pick Reinbacher at 8, trade NYI’s 1st + the best 2nd rounder we’ve got to move up between 13 and 15 if Leonard, Yager, Sale or Moore are still available.
Then in the 2nd get some combination of Dower-Nilsson, Willander and Felix Nilsson.
Outside of a lotto win that draft gives me warm and fuzzy feelings.
Barry Amsterdam
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Talk about moving goal posts, the statement was the everyone knew who he was on draft day and that he wasn't uncovered by Hakan the Great. And yes, just about every poster on this board knows what Bob's List is. I would like to enter into evidence the final "Bob's List" for the 2019 draft. Americans set to dominate first round of the NHL Draft - TSN.ca
Look at little old Mo sitting there ten whole spots behind where he was actually taken. Not much of a reach if you really think about it.
If you have any knowledge whatsoever that certain teams don't scout central European professional leagues, please do us all a favor and list those organizations. Hockey is very much a niche sport. There are a relatively small number of leagues that actually feed into the NHL draft, especially in Europe.
Detroit Knights
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I think the point was Seider was never considered a top 10 pick, of which are the ones that are usually the best odds at drafting high caliber players.
Correct me if I'm wrong whoever is arguing back and forth with this guy.
lilidk
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Seider played for national team at WC and looks pretty good, year ago was Hughes, who played for USA national team, he was also was good, but we decided to go with shiny Zadina instead. Looking forward, we should not make Zadina mistake again
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Henkka
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Think it would be logical to take Reinbacher with our first pick (~#8) and then forward with the NYI pick (~#16) .
Perfect Human
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Not sure who is the preferred center in the second between Nilsson, Dower-Nilsson, and Edstrom. Each are a bit different but lately I’m leaning Edstrom.
Also stuck on Oscar Fiskar Molgaard v Dalibor Dvorsky with the later first round pick. Both seem possible to be available and potential picks.
Obviously I am wanting a plethora of potential centers drafted.
Also stuck on Oscar Fiskar Molgaard v Dalibor Dvorsky with the later first round pick. Both seem possible to be available and potential picks.
Obviously I am wanting a plethora of potential centers drafted.
GarlicbreadTB
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Obviously I'd be happy with this too. But just very impressed with Moore and would love to see him with the Wings.
emptyNedder
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Going to mention Hannes Hellberg again. If he was two weeks younger, he would be first time eligible.
He was 5th in Swedish J20 Nationell scoring, led the Swedish U19 (Five Nations?) in points, and is currently tied with Unger Sorum (his linemate) for the points in the J20 playoffs.
I mentioned my model for finding under-valued D--specifically noting Adam Engstrom this time last year. Now I am tinkering with a model for forwards. One of the variables is Point Mobility, which is producing at different levels, such as tournaments, regular season, and playoffs. Hellberg is the top prospect outside the consensus top 50 for that measure. Others who do well on PM are: Unger Sorum, Kiiskinen, Terrance, and Joe Connor.
He was 5th in Swedish J20 Nationell scoring, led the Swedish U19 (Five Nations?) in points, and is currently tied with Unger Sorum (his linemate) for the points in the J20 playoffs.
I mentioned my model for finding under-valued D--specifically noting Adam Engstrom this time last year. Now I am tinkering with a model for forwards. One of the variables is Point Mobility, which is producing at different levels, such as tournaments, regular season, and playoffs. Hellberg is the top prospect outside the consensus top 50 for that measure. Others who do well on PM are: Unger Sorum, Kiiskinen, Terrance, and Joe Connor.
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wingerdinger
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Very interesting how you're rewriting history. But thats ok.
I suspect every NHL org scouts central Europe all Im saying there are some orgs that invest more scouting resources in certain regions then others. And therefore they have a better picture of the talent in said region. It's not that complicated.
JohanFranzenstein
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Perreault with our second 1st plz N thx
Frk It
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He has an interesting track record of scoring goals.
I find this kid interesting too, although not an overager: Roman Kantserov at eliteprospects.com
This kid looks interesting to me, have been trying to find more info on him: Sam Court at eliteprospects.com
Dvorsky with the late 1st? I really doubt he lasts that far.
GoBoltz56
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There's a 19 year old defenseman who had 30 points in the Allsvenskan this year. Can't recall his name at the moment, but I wouldn't mind using a 4th rounder on him.
Frk It
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Not in the allsvenskan, but this kid has very impressive production:
Lucas Lagerberg Hoen - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Lucas Lagerberg Hoen, 2004-05-03 Mora, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the HockeyAllsvenskan with IF Björklöven. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com
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