Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread

[Mighty Makar]

I’ll hate this f***en team if Toews leaves.

 

[Ararana]

I hope I’m wrong, but this could very well be Toews’ last year with the Avs.

If it is, this would be what I would consider cMac first actual fireable offense.

You could have gotten a really good 2C package 5 months ago for Toews.

 

[Balthazar]

To sign him they’ll have to.

But they can't go high AAV.

It's 7-8 years or nothing. If the Avs won't go there like they didn't want to with Kadri then Toews walks.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Matches the eye test too. No matter how good Girard looks skating the puck out of the zone he's going to have limitations defending due to his size. Now that he's completely off the PP he's just not worth his contract. You can't be paying a small defenseman that's not even on the PP that kind of money.

Over the last 2 seasons, Girard has been 60th overall in time on ice per game for defensemen.

If you remove his PP time and just look at Even strength ice time, he moves up to 35th and 41st in time on ice per game for dmen.

 

[Muffin]

If you can go 8 with Nuke there’s zero reason to not go 8 years with Toews.


Why should Girard benefit from advanced stats but Manson shouldn’t?

Because advanced stats tends to not favor stay at home physical defenseman like Manson but benefits defenseman that moves the puck.

 

[BobRossColton]

Denisenko is on waivers..

 

[henchman21]

But they can't go high AAV.

It's 7-8 years or nothing. If the Avs won't go there like they didn't want to with Kadri then Toews walks.

They can, it just isn’t without compromise.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Because advanced stats tends to not favor stay at home physical defenseman like Manson but benefits defenseman that moves the puck.

They don’t benefit those guys because they aren’t good hockey players majority of the time. But there’s plenty of stay at home guys who have fine to even great analytics

 

[henchman21]

Because advanced stats tends to not favor stay at home physical defenseman like Manson but benefits defenseman that moves the puck.

That’s not true. There are many stay at home guys who are gods analytically

 

[MacKaRant]

Nuke's 8 years: age 27 to 35
Toews' 8 years: age 30 to 38

No team wants 35+ players making big money

I think it's exactly this. Team gave Miles of Wood six years to drive down AAV, it's not term that's the issue per se, but rather the 35+ status of the contract and the incumbent cap rules.

 

[henchman21]

I think it's exactly this. Team gave Miles of Wood six years to drive down AAV, it's not term that's the issue per se, but rather the 35+ status of the contract and the incumbent cap rules.

I agree the Avs don't want olds... but be be clear, there are no 35+ cap rules that would apply to any of these contracts.

 

[MacKaRant]

I agree the Avs don't want olds... but be be clear, there are no 35+ cap rules that would apply to any of these contracts.

Yes, you are correct. I've had another look and the rule only applies to contracts signed when the player is 35+. I think I was conflating with the cap recapture penalties that we've seen on those long contracts from the previous CBA.

 

[henchman21]

Yes, you are correct. I've had another look and the rule only applies to contracts signed when the player is 35+. I think I was conflating with the cap recapture penalties that we've seen on those long contracts from the previous CBA.

Yeah and the even narrowed those 35+ implications in the latest MOU. At this point, teams can avoid the 35+ tag pretty easily.

 

[Richard88]

Wade Allison on waivers... Please claim him CMac

Also Marcus Björk potentially of interest as a RHD, he had a good finish to last season

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[BobRossColton]

Ooh NAK! Ha

Wasn't skarek a decent pick?

 

[UncleRisto]

Some decent names on waivers this time. Wade Allison was pretty good last year, too bad about all our wingers.

 

[SuperJoe]

Give me Allison please

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[henchman21]

Give me Allison please

Yes for the love of god grab Allison.

 

[chet1926]

I hope I’m wrong, but this could very well be Toews’ last year with the Avs.

Unless Cmac is willing to move G then this is entirely possible.

Part of being a good team with lots of good players is potentially having good players price themselves out of what is doable.

Personally I view Toews in the group of guys you can't move. That group for us is 29, 96, 92, 8 and Toews IMO. Basically your top line and top pair. Byram is close to this as he has elite potential.

Everyone else should be moved prior to losing one of the above mentioned guys.

 

[Balthazar]

Can we swap Wood and his 6 years for Allison?

 

[BobRossColton]

How about Robin Salo?

 

[EdAVSfan]

What’s so special about Allison?

 

[The Kingslayer]

Why the f*** is Wade Allison on waivers? What the hell is Philly doing haha. He will get claimed.