Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread
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He doesn’t, he’s 11th in PPTOI/G. He’s just been healthy the whole year so he has more total minutes.
It'll be tough, a huge part will be Cronin and the team getting better with his system (and maybe him hiring his guys for special teams?). I don't give great odds on it happening, but more unexpected things have happened. Gauthier will be a big wild card to, if he comes in and can play 3rd wheel right away and gets chemistry with his linemates, that could also be a huge boost.
Z-Mac-Vatrano
Gauthier-Carlsson-Terry
Killorn-Lundy-Strome
McGinn/Jones-Carrick-Leason
The top 6 is very young and probably will make a lot of mistakes but also very talented and should put up some points. Defense is going to be the problem.
Fowler-???
Minty-Gudas
Vaaks-LaCombe
Without team D, we may bleed goals, but hopefully the games will be fun to watch.
Edit: Forgot Lundestrom
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I think Cutter will be a huge add offensively b/c of his speed and size, who can play that dump and chase game. Mac, well ... a healthy Mac, shows the difference on the scoresheet with his wingers being inept without him.
Cutter will be the bigger, faster, and with more scoring acumen than Killorn.
Top-6
Cutter-Carlsson-Terry
Z-Mac-Vatrano
On the PP, Cutter gives us another option of a player who can carry the puck into the Ozone either with the PP1 group or on the PP2 group.
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Young Vets
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We were missing scoring from Terry and Z to start the season this year. In Terry's last 19 games, he's scored 18 points and didn't have a scoring drought longer than a game. Excluding Z's last game where he only played 2 minutes before getting injured, he scored 5 points in seven games. Getting both on track healthy and without kids should make a significant difference.
Lundestrom doesn't show much offensively, but he will always displace Strome at center. That's the key for making Strome actually play better is to have Strome stay on the wing while Lundy can carry the defensive aspect along with having speed.
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Mac Evolution
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Mac will be better such that he will probably be better physically to handle the season while playing more aggressive. This season, Mac was more aggressive because it was his second season in the NHL. He exuded too much energy and got injured. That combo has him looking lost right now probably b/c his body can match what his brain is thinking since his injury.
An extra off-season of Mac body building, skating, and improving his endurance should also help Mac's defense.
Then we start talking about all the rookies this year taking another step forward. Z, Drysdale, and Mac all took huge strides in their second season in the NHL (provided we're counting Z and Drysdale's 24-NHL game season as their first NHL season). Carlsson, Minty, and LaCombe will hopefully take a big step.
That's four top-6F, a 3C, and two defensemen youths that we should be expecting better production next year. Will there be enough talent to compensate for the loss of Rico?
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The rookies
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Afterwards, comes our known rookies in LW Cutter and RD Luneau. They will have growing pains, more on Luneau than Cutter since Cutter will be surrounded by Carlsson and Terry. Although Cutter is the third wheel on that line, he will be relied upon to be bring the heavy game onto that line. I fear Luneau will be forced to play on the top line with Fowler next season.
I don't know if there will be any other rookies joining the NHL ranks next season. Unless one of our LD's plays RD, there isn't room available.
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Our focus next year is the development of our top-6, or rather five of our top-6. The bottom-6 isn't a focus, but there will be lots of vets there.
Next year
Cutter-Carlsson-Terry
Z-Mac-Vatrano (until TDL)
Killorn-Lundy-Strome
McGinn-Carrick/Groulx (both not signed yet)-xxx
Fowler-Luneau
Minty-xxx
LaCombe-Gudas
Vaak (not signed yet)
Although we have a lot returning next year, a third of our starters will be new. Will Verbeek sign a FA, stay-at-home RD or push up LD Hinds to play RD, where Hinds is currently playing top pairing RD. Hinds has surpassed Helleson at the AHL depth chart as Helleson is playing RD3.
Next year with a FA, stay-at-home D
Fowler-Luneau
Minty-xxx
LaCombe-Gudas
Vaak (not signed yet)
Next year with a youth promoted
Fowler-Luneau
Minty-Gudas
LaCombe-rookie
Vaak (not signed yet)
I'm not as confident in our defense at the moment b/c losing RD Lybushkin kinda disrupts our blueline balance.
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There's a lot of promise toward next season, but a lot will depend on the coaching staff and what we're doing with our blue line.
robbieboy3686
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Labush is a guy, if we trade him. That fetches us a 2nd at best. I’m sure if we trade him, our Gm upgrades him with a better version this summer. Next year the plaza around the Honda center is complete( from what I remember ) the Samuelis absolutely want next season to be the one where the ducks start to become competitive. That’s my hot take
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Acquiring an upgrade with a top-4, shutdown RD would be ideal. I don't know how feasible that would be. Also, it's gonna depend on how the draft pans out.
If we draft a RD with our potential top-5 pick, then we're probably looking for yet another stopgap or we rush yet another youth to the NHL next season.
So was looking at some stats, and I know +/- can be flawed in some areas but check this out..
Top 5…
Bottom 5
Gudas is a +13!! WTF? Lol.
Top 5…
Bottom 5
Gudas is a +13!! WTF? Lol.
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Rico stands out the most, but it isn't surprising b/c he's been this good offensively and defensively for years now, especially after getting waived during COVID season. Rico is underrated with Anaheim fans. Sure, he's got some flaws, but also very savvy on the ice.
I'm not too worried about rookie LaCombe. Drysdale's first full season in the NHL had him playing top-4 minutes with Lindholm pre-TDL and Fowler post-TDL. That season Drysdale was a -26 rating, but he also put up 34 points. The oddest part to that is Lindholm was a +0 with Drysdale as his partner most nights. ATOI for Lindholm was 22:32 and Drysdale was 19:53, showing Lindholm plays an additional 2:40 ATOI per game than Drysdale. Similarly, LaCombe's ATOI is lower than Fowler b/c he was trained to get off the ice at a certain time for his shift and not enjoy earning that positive +/- rating.
- LaCombe +/- rating
- Starting top pairing:
- Games = 25 games
- Points = 3 (0g + 3a)
- +/- Rating = -20 rating
- Non top pairing:
- Games = 18 games
- Points = 5 (1g + 4a)
- +/- Rating = -3 rating
- Starting top pairing:
Looking at LaCombe's splits, we do notice the huge drop in the +/- rating. Which means the top pairing deployment is against far tougher competition. We probably can see a +/- rating drop for Vaaks with Fowler on the top pairing and with Gudas on the 2nd/3rd pairing.
ATOI
Fowler = 25:17
LaCombe = 19:34
Gudas = 18:41
Vaak = 16:38
With the ATOI, the time distribution also identifies usage of players.
Fowler is an offensive D-man asked to play Anaheim's best shutdown d-man. That's not his role. His best role is playing with a shutdown D.
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As for McTavish, since his return from injury, he's a -12 rating in 15 games. But he was looking bad just before his injury too as he was scoreless if four games with a -7 rating.
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Hazy mentioned on the broadcast that Gudas leads the league in +/- for away games.
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He's +18 in 20 road games. That's unreal.
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Safe to say, he’s been our Gms best singing so far. And Vatrano wasn’t a bad signing either. I think killorn having knee surgery is why he’s looked slow. But as a veteran leader on a new team, he truly tried to play through it. I thibk killorn will grow on everyone. By mid season, next season we all will love killorn.
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What are the odds Lundestrom gets non-tendered? Only been 10 games back, but he's got 1 point (a goal) and Cronin is playing him nearly 2 minutes below his career average TOI.
He's making $1.8 million AAV and has arbitration rights.
He's making $1.8 million AAV and has arbitration rights.
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He’s gone. One way or another, Our other gaucher or however you spell it, has come into form down with the gulls. He was always going to be our future 3rd line center imho. Our “ safe 1st round pick” who’s tough as nails and locker room captain type.I would say leason has a brighter future with the ducks than lundestrom does.
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Ducks really aren’t in an either or situation in regards to Gaucher, Leason and Lundy. It’s not like they have a bunch of forwards dying for ice time, especially not after they deal Henrique and silf is gone.
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I think a short deal is likely for Lundy. He has little leverage with the lack of production and games lost.
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Perrault Tracey king pasta regenda. Bunch of gulls that it’s now or never time to see if they have nhl futures( pasta still young, so he has time). Not sure how old king is. We won’t just lose lundy for nothing though. It’s possible he’s dealt sooner than later.
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Lundestrom has had a 16 goal season at the NHL level. this is pretty valuable to the Ducks. I'd like to see him be given a full season on a team that isn't completely awful. He has looked decent at times with McGinn and Leason but he rarely plays so its hard to really gauge where he's at. Giving up on him to test out AHL fodder is a bad move.
Pasta only has 4 points in the AHL and none of them are goals. He's not someone who you put in the NHL anytime soon.
Tracey is in his 3rd AHL season and only has 14 points.
Regenda would be a good call up but I don't think the Ducks are all that high on him or he'd already be in Anaheim. He's also the same age as Issac so you're really not getting younger with that one.
King is performing well at the AHL level and if he keeps it up, could be added to the forward group one day.
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Jesus, I didn’t know Tracey and Perrault were that large of busts. Huge sigh. Guess you guys might be right, he might take a cheap deal(lundy).
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We really need an upgrade to bush on defense. A lot of problems will go away once you have that.
A lot of our bad defense is the forwards though. Turnovers, misplaying transitions, blown coverage creates defensive breakdowns, and leads to easy opportunities.
I'm not trying to say the vets are exempt, but I think the fear causes them to make safe plays that then stagnates our offense because of fear of a turnover.
As our forwards get more experience, make less risky plays, overall game will shift, but possibly not as exciting as the beginning of the year where had a lot of 3rd period comebacks because of high risk plays. However, we should be a more consistent/defensive team.
A lot of our bad defense is the forwards though. Turnovers, misplaying transitions, blown coverage creates defensive breakdowns, and leads to easy opportunities.
I'm not trying to say the vets are exempt, but I think the fear causes them to make safe plays that then stagnates our offense because of fear of a turnover.
As our forwards get more experience, make less risky plays, overall game will shift, but possibly not as exciting as the beginning of the year where had a lot of 3rd period comebacks because of high risk plays. However, we should be a more consistent/defensive team.
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