Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

[Gliff]

I don’t agree with every single ranking on the list, but for a fan voted list, I’m pretty impressed honestly. There are several “experts” who would produce worse IMO

Maybe a little slanted towards offense, but I also think a lot of posters on our board are weirdly slanted towards defensive defensemen.

Like, a big reason why the Anaheim Ducks have sucked the last 5 years is because they have no one who can drive offense from the back end

We havent had a guy like that since Lubo left, but still were cup contenders.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I don’t agree with every single ranking on the list, but for a fan voted list, I’m pretty impressed honestly. There are several “experts” who would produce worse IMO

Maybe a little slanted towards offense, but I also think a lot of posters on our board are weirdly slanted towards defensive defensemen.

Like, a big reason why the Anaheim Ducks have sucked the last 5 years is because they have no one who can drive offense from the back end

it's also probably why we flamed out earlier than we would've liked in the 2014, 2015, and 2017 playoffs.

 

[Mr Rogers]

We havent had a guy like that since Lubo left, but still were cup contenders.

This an interesting comment, because while we were cup contenders, this issue (lack of dynamic OFD(s)) is literally probably why we never ultimately won - never even got to the SCF when we absolutely should have. Teams that beat us always had better OFDs than we did

 

[Mr Rogers]

It's not just fans, but hockey people too. The Norris Trophy, an award for best defenseman, is often awarded to the defenseman who scored the most usually. Defense first d-men don't win the Norris nowadays.

That's because they shouldn't. You have to be very good to elite at all aspects of the game.

 

[Ducks DVM]

That's because they shouldn't. You have to be very good to elite at all aspects of the game.

EK winning last year says that’s complete nonsense. His mother wouldn’t say his defense is very good to elite at this point of his career. He gave up the 4th most shots in the league last year. His SAT% is good because he drives so much offense. His defense is pedestrian on a good day.

edit - for reference sake, he’s been on the ice for more shots against than Fowler has this year, and wasn’t too far behind him last year.

 

[Mr Rogers]

EK winning last year says that’s complete nonsense. His mother wouldn’t say his defense is very good to elite at this point of his career. He gave up the 4th most shots in the league last year. His SAT% is good because he drives so much offense. His defense is pedestrian on a good day.

edit - for reference sake, he’s been on the ice for more shots against than Fowler has this year, and wasn’t too far behind him last year.

Just did a quick look at the last 10 Norris winners and I'd say 6-7 of them are really solid defensively (EK won twice and i didn't include him in the 6-7). Last year was weird, but I don't think you can ignore a dman scoring over 100 points. But just looking at the overall trend, it seems that you still have to be good defensively - i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt as of now.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

EK winning last year says that’s complete nonsense. His mother wouldn’t say his defense is very good to elite at this point of his career. He gave up the 4th most shots in the league last year. His SAT% is good because he drives so much offense. His defense is pedestrian on a good day.

edit - for reference sake, he’s been on the ice for more shots against than Fowler has this year, and wasn’t too far behind him last year.

I gave up on the Norris when Rob Blake won it, if I can be a curmudgeon for a minute.

 

[pbgoalie]

I don’t agree with every single ranking on the list, but for a fan voted list, I’m pretty impressed honestly. There are several “experts” who would produce worse IMO

Maybe a little slanted towards offense, but I also think a lot of posters on our board are weirdly slanted towards defensive defensemen.

Like, a big reason why the Anaheim Ducks have sucked the last 5 years is because they have no one who can drive offense from the back end

Ironically they can’t play defense either

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

This an interesting comment, because while we were cup contenders, this issue (lack of dynamic OFD(s)) is literally probably why we never ultimately won - never even got to the SCF when we absolutely should have. Teams that beat us always had better OFDs than we did

Well that and Andersen completely pooping the bed after toews game 5 winner for the rest of the series in 2015

Then in 2017 the injuries just piled up as we lost eaves and Kesler and pears was hurt but still played

 

[pbgoalie]

EK winning last year says that’s complete nonsense. His mother wouldn’t say his defense is very good to elite at this point of his career. He gave up the 4th most shots in the league last year. His SAT% is good because he drives so much offense. His defense is pedestrian on a good day.

edit - for reference sake, he’s been on the ice for more shots against than Fowler has this year, and wasn’t too far behind him last year.

I watched a few games and as good skater as he is, it seems his injuries have totally screwed his backwards to forwards transitions. It was horrifying. And I understand with the injuries, but it exposes him defensively something fierce

 

[MMC]

 

[anezthes]

EK winning last year says that’s complete nonsense.

Lubo not winning it in 2010-11 still annoys me. He had 6 more points than Lidström in less games (only 1 but it still counts dammmit!), higher P/GP (0.84 vs 0.76), better +/- (+18 vs -2, and yes, I know, I know), 8 less PPP, etc. 39 of Lidström's 62 points came on the PP which is ~63%. Comparatively only ~46% of Lubo's points were PPP.

I'm not bitter.

 

[Leonardo87]

Why the F is Silf getting more PP time than players like Terry, Mac, and Leo? WTF????

Newell Brown and the other assistances need to be fired into the sun.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Why the F is Silf getting more PP time than players like Terry, Mac, and Leo? WTF????

Newell Brown and the other assistances need to be fired into the sun.

I don't get it either..

 

[Arthuros]

A haunting reminder that we get to experience this tomorrow, all over again. Isn't that wonderful!?

 

[Deuce22]

Why the F is Silf getting more PP time than players like Terry, Mac, and Leo? WTF????

Newell Brown and the other assistances need to be fired into the sun.

Scary thought, but I actually think Brown thinks those guys are his best PP.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

A haunting reminder that we get to experience this tomorrow, all over again. Isn't that wonderful!?

I think by the end of this year. Alot of us will be having broken tvs lmao

 

[Arthuros]

Why the F is Silf getting more PP time than players like Terry, Mac, and Leo? WTF????

Newell Brown and the other assistances need to be fired into the sun.

This game in particular it looks worse because I think just about every power play we got happened immediately after a Carlsson shift.

But Silf just shouldn't be on the PP. Arguably he was never good enough at it even when he was younger.

 

[Leonardo87]

This game in particular it looks worse because I think just about every power play we got happened immediately after a Carlsson shift.

But Silf just shouldn't be on the PP. Arguably he was never good enough at it even when he was younger.

Probably since he’s been the one drawing them as of late. His penalties drawn vs Taken has to be really good. He uses his size to get past the defense and the other team is forced to take a penalty.

This is why I am excited about Gauthier. Another big body who can protect the puck .

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Why the F is Silf getting more PP time than players like Terry, Mac, and Leo? WTF????

Newell Brown and the other assistances need to be fired into the sun.

Trying to pad his stats for deadline /shrug

 

[MMC]

Hagg sent down yet again per AHL transactions

 

[Rybread86]

Hagg sent down yet again per AHL transactions

Gotta mean Boosh's injury wasnt significant I have to believe. SD has a game the same night we do, so not point in sending him down to play a game just to call him back up. Or they are going to call up a different Dman.

 

[Kalv]

Watched the last nights game and while it was frustrating, man do I feel different than last year.

Last year it felt like teams are sorry for us and would stop pushing by the 2nd period. This year we are piling up close amount of losses but we still hang in there and most of the time we're in it until almost the very end.

Feeling much better about this team than last year. Yeah I was hoping playoff push this year but let's see if we can be healthy next year

 

[lwvs84]

A lot has to go right, but there's a way I can see the Ducks challenging (but probably falling short) for a playoff spot next season. IF the team is healthy, IF the young guys progress more, IF the vets show up and play at a reasonable level, and maybe we need another FA signing or rookie... we've lost a lot of 1 goal (not counting EN goals) games. A healthy team where the kids are playing better could be the difference between losing virtually all of those games and winning a decent amount of them.

 

[Rooch]

A lot has to go right, but there's a way I can see the Ducks challenging (but probably falling short) for a playoff spot next season. IF the team is healthy, IF the young guys progress more, IF the vets show up and play at a reasonable level, and maybe we need another FA signing or rookie... we've lost a lot of 1 goal (not counting EN goals) games. A healthy team where the kids are playing better could be the difference between losing virtually all of those games and winning a decent amount of them.

Man, I dig your positivity but I just can't see it. We'll be starting anew with Gauthier and potentially whomever we draft this year. The other kids (Carlsson, Lacombe, Dostal, Minty, etc.) will only be one year more experienced. And the veteran forwards on this team (outside of Vatrano) are not showing much in the way of consistent scoring. Unless there is significant player movement at the trade deadline and during the offseason, I can't see next season being a whole lot better than this one.