2023-24 Roster Thread #6: A Hall of Famer, a doctor, a policeman and a moose walk into a bar with a Bundy...

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Who are your three favorite current Flyers' players (from Oct. 30 roster on team's website)?


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The narrative that Torts has all the young forwards playing well and full of confidence doesn't match the reality where Cates and Foerster have 8 points combined (and only 5 at ES), and Frost has been jerked around all season despite actually producing well at ES in his limited opportunities.

Foerster is at 0.55 ESP/60 and Cates is at 0.88. Frost is at 2.02.

 
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The narrative that Torts has all the young forwards playing well and full of confidence doesn't match the reality where Cates and Foerster have 8 points combined (and only 5 at ES), and Frost has been jerked around all season despite actually producing well at ES in his limited opportunities.

Foerster is at 0.55 ESP/60 and Cates is at 0.88. Frost is at 2.02.

But I was told Torts benches everyone.
 
The narrative that Torts has all the young forwards playing well and full of confidence doesn't match the reality where Cates and Foerster have 8 points combined (and only 5 at ES), and Frost has been jerked around all season despite actually producing well at ES in his limited opportunities.

Foerster is at 0.55 ESP/60 and Cates is at 0.88. Frost is at 2.02.

Maybe if Torts played Cates at LW where he belongs, his game might pick up?
 
Question on Sanheim:

Do Flyers fans expect him to keep up this scoring pace?

He is on pace for 72 points. I doubt he gets there. But is 50-60 points possible if he continues to get this much ice time and PP time?
 
I could see him with 40 at ES, and 10-15 on the PP if he stays on the top unit.

He's had two prior seasons with 30 and 31 ESP, and that was playing behind Provorov.


These are his most common teammates


York - 284:07
Couturier - 106:22
Atkinson - 105:24
Tippett - 99:55
Farabee - 98:06
Konecny - 92:01
 
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Look for all the Cates fluffers in the Flyers media to now start writing puff pieces about Poehling.
They are the same age, so maybe the org and the gaslit media will be convinced both have more offensive upside.
 
Look for all the Cates fluffers in the Flyers media to now start writing puff pieces about Poehling.

The Flyers 4th line sure looks expensive now.

Delsauriers - $1,750,000
Cates - $2,625,000
Hathaway - $2,375,000

You mean it's not normal for rebuilding teams to be spending nearly 7 mill a season on their 4th line?
 


I liked Poehling as a draft eligible, and I thought it was a solid buy low contract. I see nothing wrong with giving him top 9 usage to see what you have. More than that, I encourage it.

Now that I got that out of the way......the pattern with Tortorella is clear as day. He is obsessed with turning 4th line players that fit his preconceived notions of what "honest hockey" looks like into middle 6 players. Poehling has been a career JAG 4th liner through age 24. But Tortorella wants to see if this 20 point player is actually a 30 point player. It's emphatically his focus.

He did it with Cates, although Cates got more absurd usage to compensate for (and inflate) his near league bottom offensive impacts. In preseason, Tortorella was gushing about Cates' offensive upside: "A lot of people don’t talk about his offense. I think he had a good offensive year and how much I gave him as such a young guy that switched positions from wing to center at a National Hockey League team, a team that was struggling to find its way last year and going through the process and I still think he put up some pretty decent numbers. That’s the next step for him as far as I’m concerned." That spot on evaluating has been rewarded with 4 points in 18 games.

But meanwhile, there's a 50 point player who is the same age that is being healthy scratched after just recording 4 points in 4 games. Maybe that 50 point player could be a 60-70 point player? But an actual ~50 point player is not important -- what's important is growing the 20 point guys into theoretical 30+ point guys at the expense of the former. Only in hockey.
 
Hey, look, new quotes!





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