2023-24 Roster Thread #6: A Hall of Famer, a doctor, a policeman and a moose walk into a bar with a Bundy...

Who are your three favorite current Flyers' players (from Oct. 30 roster on team's website)?


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Curufinwe

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Torts is literally scratching Frost because he wants to keep Frost's point totals from being higher than Cates, Foerster and Poehling. :laugh:

Hilariously, Frost still has a 14 ESP and 10 ES goal edge on Cates despite playing nine fewer games since the start of the 22-23 season. Rate wise, Frost and Farabee are tied at 2.16 ESP/60, but only one is getting f***ed over by Tortorella.

 

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Hey, look, new quotes!





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How can he "produce offense and play in the top six" if he's not given the opportunity to play in the top 6?

This guy is such a prick
 

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How can he "produce offense and play in the top six" if he's not given the opportunity to play in the top 6?

This guy is such a prick

When Torts was in Tampa, he took tweener talents like MSL and sculpted them into HoFers. If he hasn't done that for someone like Lycksell yet , I think it's fair to question whether he really wants to win or he's just collecting a check. No one wants to work these days. SMH

Isn't peak for forwards at 26? Poehling and Cates will be 26 during next season.

Yep. Scoring peak on the average ends at 26. There are always exceptions, but on the whole, it's true.
 

Curufinwe

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Forget how arbitrary and biased he is. He actually believes in a "top 6" in 2023. Oooof.
I don't know if actually believes that. He just says whatever pops into his head to justify himself, and the beat writers are too dumb or too cowardly to push back..

Last game the 3rd line was Farabee-Poehling-Brink, so Brink wasn't playing in the top 6. Of course, it is ridiculous to think that a line that Brink plays on couldn't also have Frost on it.


Tyson FoersterSean CouturierTravis Konecny11:01
Scott LaughtonOwen TippettCam Atkinson8:13
Joel FarabeeRyan PoehlingBobby Brink7:22
Nicolas DeslauriersNoah CatesGarnet Hathaway
6:04
 

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I just want to say that I watched the Torts interview. Either Bill’s question is not on the YouTube interview or he didn’t ask it and was quoting what Torts said previously.

And why - and this deserves it's own post - why did Foerster get almost 3 more minutes at 5v5 in the last game than Farabee, when Farabee is leading the team in 5v5 scoring by a large margin and Foerster is dead last for forwards?

You know the answer lol
 
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How can he "produce offense and play in the top six" if he's not given the opportunity to play in the top 6?

This guy is such a prick
Frost played 12:45 against Vegas then was scratched Sunday. He is being jerked around. How can anyone say he’s been given opportunities when he’s been in. That is a lie. Torts hates him and Briere doesn’t have the stones to play him where he should be playing
 

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And why - and this deserves it's own post - why did Foerster get almost 3 more minutes at 5v5 in the last game than Farabee, when Farabee is leading the team in 5v5 scoring by a large margin and Foerster is dead last for forwards?

Friendly reminder the most vehement supporters of the ice time meritocracy are the contrarians.

You silly guys, we are winning. That's what a coaches job is. You guys are focused in the micro, not the macro.

All hail King Torts!
Think of all the rentals they could add with their 2 firsts this year!
 
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I liked Poehling as a draft eligible, and I thought it was a solid buy low contract. I see nothing wrong with giving him top 9 usage to see what you have. More than that, I encourage it.

Now that I got that out of the way......the pattern with Tortorella is clear as day. He is obsessed with turning 4th line players that fit his preconceived notions of what "honest hockey" looks like into middle 6 players. Poehling has been a career JAG 4th liner through age 24. But Tortorella wants to see if this 20 point player is actually a 30 point player. It's emphatically his focus.

He did it with Cates, although Cates got more absurd usage to compensate for (and inflate) his near league bottom offensive impacts. In preseason, Tortorella was gushing about Cates' offensive upside: "A lot of people don’t talk about his offense. I think he had a good offensive year and how much I gave him as such a young guy that switched positions from wing to center at a National Hockey League team, a team that was struggling to find its way last year and going through the process and I still think he put up some pretty decent numbers. That’s the next step for him as far as I’m concerned." That spot on evaluating has been rewarded with 4 points in 18 games.

But meanwhile, there's a 50 point player who is the same age that is being healthy scratched after just recording 4 points in 4 games. Maybe that 50 point player could be a 60-70 point player? But an actual ~50 point player is not important -- what's important is growing the 20 point guys into theoretical 30+ point guys at the expense of the former. Only in hockey.


"We don't need Gaudreaus. We need 10-12 goal PK specialists."

That's what he said he wanted in the summer, and his actions confirm he was serious.
 

BiggE

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And why - and this deserves it's own post - why did Foerster get almost 3 more minutes at 5v5 in the last game than Farabee, when Farabee is leading the team in 5v5 scoring by a large margin and Foerster is dead last for forwards?

Ooh, I know the answer!

Cause the God Emperor f***ing said so, that’s why!

I’m praying that horse learns to kick much, much harder.
 

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"We don't need Gaudreaus. We need 10-12 goal PK specialists."

That's what he said he wanted in the summer, and his actions confirm he was serious.
I think we are seeing that Smurf type players like Gaudreau need a certain type of power forward to be able to use their skill or else they are useless. No Tkatchuk now so poor little Johnny can’t play anymore.
 

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So unless he becomes a ppg player, he's never going to be a permanent fixture in the lineup



He had 4 points in his last 4 games. He doesn’t need to become point per game. He needs to become point every game.

Instead of trying to boost his numbers in an inevitable trade, they pointlessly tank his value. Where are we without traditions?
 

BiggE

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He had 4 points in his last 4 games. He doesn’t need to become point per game. He needs to become point every game.

Instead of trying to boost his numbers in an inevitable trade, they pointlessly tank his value. Where are we without traditions?
The gang that came up with New Coke is still more competent than Flyers management and coaching staff.
 
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