Weird that all the people who are the biggest Tippett fans seem to be the most critical of Frost, who is obviously the better player.
I wonder if size stereotypes and team propaganda have anything to do with it.
Trust me, I'm one of the people least excited over the youth of this team. Cates, Tippett, York... so many people think they're a part of our future contending core but I'm not the slightest bit impressed with any of them.
Frost has improved significantly, he's not going to be physical on defense, and Torts doesn't expect that, he wants Frost to back check and get in position and stick check and break up plays. It's really a matter of improving his ice awareness, don't get caught up in the offensive action to the point that you get caught deep and can't get back - and some of this is a team issue - you have to be aware of who is deep on the cycle and CYA for them. However, for Torts, at least adequate defense is a must for centers (his system doesn't put as much stress defensively on wings), which is what got Hayes in trouble.
Nope, he’s actually good defensively.
i honesty havent looked at advanced stats, i like frost alot but there seemed like times he just got caught out of position so wanted to know what you guys thought. i read tippett has a really good takeaway/giveaway ratio which is probably why torts is so big on him if hes not putting as much responsibility on the wings. i'd like to see both take another step this year, but im one of the guys who thinks tippett still has tons of upside lol
this is where the stats are important I guess, trying to seperate the good from the bad when the whole team looks like a shit took backwards
He’s been good defensively at every level, especially as a PKer.
would be a super good trade chip at the deadline the next couple seasons if hes shorter term too. im hoping frost stays but he might already want out and we just havent heard about it he seemed to perform well the last half of the season either way but torts sandbagged him pretty hard with the toilet seat stuff. also maybe management wants to frost to shave his moustache and hes still thinking about it
i hear Frost and the Flyers arent close on his next contract..
Sure. It’s not that I think they’re useless, but I wouldn’t call those “core players”.
Considering they are at least 5 years away from contention, I’d make the argument that they have zero core players right now. At this point, other than prospects and kids on ELCs, every single player on the roster should be available in the right deal.
Yeah, pretty much. I do think though, that if they’d just let him play wing, Gauthier has 1LW potential and that Foerster has a shot to be the 2nd line RW.
Yeah that’s 100% fair. Hopefully they keep getting better and we hit on Gauthier, Michkov, 2024 high 1, and 2025 high 1.
Can't I like bothWeird that all the people who are the biggest Tippett fans seem to be the most critical of Frost, who is obviously the better player.
I wonder if size stereotypes and team propaganda have anything to do with it.
If you like both then you’re not one of the people I’m referring toCan't I like both
I’m only laughing on the outside.
