Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Jargon]

Laine is only 26?!? Jesus, it feels like he’s been in the league for 45 years.

 

[SJFanQC]

Laine is only 26?!? Jesus, it feels like he’s been in the league for 45 years.

Just turned 26 too, he'll be that age all next regular season

 

[PattyLafontaine]

I guess I’m really undervaluing Ferraro.

Nope, he's atrocious and the advanced metrics suggest as such.

 

[DG93]

Not all teams can easily fit Laine's 8.7M x2 years under the cap either...I think that will limit suitors unless Columbus is ready to take on some bad cap coming back. The Sharks could certainly accommodate though, so I'd offer pick #42 + Bordeleau.

 

[tiburon12]

I'd 100% take Laine for spare parts (which is what he is worth). Taking a flyer on that potential is definitely worth it.

He'd probably be happy in sj with better weather, less pressure, and more nerds nearby

 

[spintops]

I'm confused, I thought many of you wanted us to be bad again next year. What would brinigng in Laine accomplish?

We would be just as bad, he might pump up the scoring numbers for our rookies though. I also don't think anyone is saying go out and tank again? I don't want to spend future assets yet unless we are getting really young players. But I'm down for improving the roster through FA or trading spare parts for guys that help. I thought most people wanted to take a step forward while realizing we will for sure pick in the top 5 again.

 

[Star Platinum]

I'm confused, I thought many of you wanted us to be bad again next year. What would bringing in Laine accomplish?

Having Laine on your roster doesn't seem to be much of a roadblock to being bad. But it would give the young guys a genuine NHL wing to play with and maybe they rehabilitate a bit of his value and flip him in 2026 for something to a contending team. Depends on the price.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Offering anything more than cap dumps and nothing prospects for Laine is a bad idea.

 

[Star Platinum]

Offering anything more than cap dumps and nothing prospects for Laine is a bad idea.

With mental health and physical injury issues combined with a high price tag, I don't think anyone believes it will take a lot to acquire him. Bigger issue is whether he's willing to go to another bad franchise, as the Sharks are probably one of the franchises in his no-trade clause.

 

[Gecklund]

We just got rid of useless wingers Labanc and Hoffman why would we want to add another of the same caliber/tyle?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

With mental health and physical injury issues combined with a high price tag, I don't think anyone believes it will take a lot to acquire him. Bigger issue is whether he's willing to go to another bad franchise, as the Sharks are probably one of the franchises in his no-trade clause.

True but if he would be willing to come here for his fresh start, we should only be offering guys like Vlasic, Kunin, Zadina, Burroughs, Benning or other pro players with no trade value with prospects with no trade value like Kaut or Thompson or guys like that. No picks or anything legitimately valuable like Ferraro or Blackwood.

 

[ChompChomp]

With mental health and physical injury issues combined with a high price tag, I don't think anyone believes it will take a lot to acquire him. Bigger issue is whether he's willing to go to another bad franchise, as the Sharks are probably one of the franchises in his no-trade clause.

He might allow a trade to play with Celebrini and Smith.

 

[tiburon12]

We just got rid of useless wingers Labanc and Hoffman why would we want to add another of the same caliber/tyle?

I think Laine's issues are more mental than physical, and because of that I think that in the right setting he can be a top player again. I wasn't joking when I said warm weather and sunshine would be great for him; my physical and mental health improved exponentially when I moved to a place where i got tons of vitamin D all year round .

So imagine getting an emotionally positive, motivated Laine who is eager to build with this org, all for some spare parts. That's the upside I see.

 

[Cas]

We just got rid of useless wingers Labanc and Hoffman why would we want to add another of the same caliber/tyle?

Laine has not been anywhere near the same caliber. Similar type of player, sure, but significantly better than either has been over the last few years (and better than Labanc has ever been).

If he's cheap, sure - we get a legitimate NHL sniper as a distressed asset we can hopefully turn into something nice in eighteen months, or he flunks and we simply got a cap dump for some spare parts while we were already going to suck.

 

[Anomie2029]

For the right price, I'd love to give Laine a try. Definitely a risk, but the upside is too good to ignore, IMO.

 

[one2gamble]

It would be interesting

 

[weastern bias]

I wouldn’t take Laine for free.

Unironically this, I hate Patrick Laine as a hockey player, he has no NHL caliber skills outside of an elite shot, he's Brandon Pirri with draft pedigree

I'm confused, I thought many of you wanted us to be bad again next year. What would brinigng in Laine accomplish?

Laine wouldn't make our team any better, he's awful, I'd only take him on as a cap dump along with a sweetener, like Laine + 2nd for a 7th type of deal

 

[LadyStanley]

We just got rid of useless wingers Labanc and Hoffman why would we want to add another of the same caliber/tyle?

Still under contract until 6/30. Sharks have announced they won't re-sign.

Sharks have 49 active contracts until then so if they acquire folks at draft under contract, they may have to trade out an equal or greater # of contracts.

 

[mogambomoroo]

I've dreamed about Laine in teal since the day he debuted in Winnipeg.
I understand it doesn't look too great now, but like I said last year about Granlund, I think Laine with a clean slate could go back to his potential.
With Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Granlund, Zetterlund he could fit perfectly on that 1st-2nd line.
I wouldn't be opposed to having Laine - Celebrini - Smith line. Laine is probably not the best teacher in 200 ft game for Celebrini/Smith but he'll give them all the points if he is on his game.

 

[coooldude]

I just don't think that Grier, trying to build the identity of the Sharks as bigger, faster, hard to play against, is going to add Laine, unless he comes for free or with a sweetener.

 

[Le Grand Quebecois]

He would look pretty good on IR for us...

 

[STL Shark]

Oh Laine my friend, why are you always asking for trades buddy. Your lofty standards for the perfect team and city must change or it will leave you alone in tis world.

In his defense, he's gotten two of the worst cities in pro sports thus far in his career in Winnipeg and Columbus.

 

[Le Grand Quebecois]

Would it be fair to describe Laine as a middle six winger/ elite powerplay specialist?

 

[weastern bias]

Would it be fair to describe Laine as a middle six winger/ elite powerplay specialist?

He's a one timer specialist who is slow, doesn't use his size, has no defensive acumen, has below average puck handling skills, isn’t a playmaker, and hasn't scored 30 goals in 5 years

I would describe him as a bad hockey player who will continue to be fed ice time because he was a #2 pick and he has an elite shot, but I wouldn't want him on my team at all

 

[karltonian]

It kinda seems like Mackcel could do well with a winger that consistently turns dimes into goals.