Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

What kind of value can we get from the Pens for Barabanov. Get Karlsson his guy, bolster the Pens' depth, maybe get a 2nd back if we take a contract as well?
Barabanov is probably worth a 2nd on his own. If we take a bad contract back we should get way more. Good prospect, another 2nd, depending on how bad whatever contract we took was.
 
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I thought Barbar was Crosby's guy.
I'm not sure about that, but I do know he was an excellent play continuer for Karlsson last year. Barabanov is strong along the walls and that was really helpful for Karl.
Barabanov is probably worth a 2nd on his own. If we take a bad contract back we should get way more. Good prospect, another 2nd, depending on how bad whatever contract we took was.
He's been hurt but also has not been producing this season. IDK if a 2nd is reasonable anymore :/
 
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I'm not sure about that, but I do know he was an excellent play continuer for Karlsson last year. Barabanov is strong along the walls and that was really helpful for Karl.

He's been hurt but also has not been producing this season. IDK if a 2nd is reasonable anymore :/
Maybe a year ago (I think right around the new year), Crosby made some comment when the Sharks played the Pens about how much he liked Barbie.

Unfortunately he's probably forgotten he exists since then.
 
Bjornfot is young and all that but he doesn't really seem to have any plus abilities worth gambling on. Doesn't seem like he'd be worth burning a contract spot on
Curious what the reaction would be if he didn't have a meaningless "1st Round Draft Pick" tag associated with him from 4-5 years ago.

There’s no way Barabanov is getting a 2nd now. He’s been awful this season and only has one season of sustained good play.
Which is why I said you have to trade him last offseason or last TDL. But people here told me I was wrong...
 
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I would only claim Bjornfot if we already had moves in place to clear others out. If there's a Ferraro trade on the table then go for it. Otherwise, bringing in Bjornfot is only going to get in the way of guys like Thrun, Mukhamadullin, and Okhotiuk who are the guys I'd like to see in the lineup as soon as possible moving forward.

Also, if the Barabanov trade market isn't great because of how his season has gone, they should be open to re-signing him to another one or two years. He's a useful depth veteran player to have. He's not like Labanc where he's useless when he's not playing well.
 
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Curious what the reaction would be if he didn't have a meaningless "1st Round Draft Pick" tag associated with him from 4-5 years ago.


Which is why I said you have to trade him last offseason or last TDL. But people here told me I was wrong...
Hey, don’t come at me. I also said we should have traded Barabanov last trade deadline. You should never trust when a 27 year old comes out of nowhere and performs like a passable first liner until he can do it for more than one season consecutively. Look at Donskoi.

Especially because last year’s draft was deep through the third round, whereas this year draft has barely enough interesting players to fill out one round.
 
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Curious what the reaction would be if he didn't have a meaningless "1st Round Draft Pick" tag associated with him from 4-5 years ago.
Bjornfot was a 1st round pick for a reason and has shown reasonably well in the SHL, AHL and NHL. His size and skating are at least bottom pairing NHL caliber and at 22 he may still have some room to develop in other areas. He's the same age as Thrun and Okhotyuk and is probably at least as good as them so why not give him a shot? We have nothing to lose. It's clear LA hasn't developed him in a sensible manner.
 
Bjornfot was a 1st round pick for a reason and has shown reasonably well in the SHL, AHL and NHL. His size and skating are at least bottom pairing NHL caliber and at 22 he may still have some room to develop in other areas. He's the same age as Thrun and Okhotyuk and is probably at least as good as them so why not give him a shot? We have nothing to lose. It's clear LA hasn't developed him in a sensible manner.
I agree. Thrun isn’t an NHLer right now so I’d rather he be back with the Cuda to work on his game while giving another former highly touted prospect an opportunity. This is the time in our rebuild where we should be claiming everyone.
 
You should never trust when a 27 year old comes out of nowhere and performs like a passable first liner until he can do it for more than one season consecutively. Look at Donskoi.
This is Barabanov’s 4th season with the Sharks. He was good in his first partial season, then had 2 good full seasons after that. I don’t think he’s ever shown himself to be a 1st liner, but he played like a decent 2nd line winger the last 2 years. Clearly he has been worse this season though.
 
The only downside of putting claim in is that the Sharks are at 49 NHL contracts and that would push them to 50.

(Also would take potential roster spot from Shakir)
 
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The only downside of putting claim in is that the Sharks are at 49 NHL contracts and that would push them to 50.

(Also would take potential roster spot from Shakir)
I'm thinking the 50 contracts thing is the reason we didn't put in a claim.

It would be so Vegas for Bjornfot's career to take off there. I'm sure it would drive Kings fans crazy too.
 
Are Hertl & Couture OK retiring without another shot at the Stanley Cup?

I understand they love the area, and Sharks are the only team they ever played for. But given that the Sharks won't compete for the Stanley Cup until 2030s, might they be open to a limited number of teams for whom they would waive their NMC? I believe both still have a positive value (assuming Juicy comes back healthy and plays well). Would be good to get a few more 1st rounders to round out our rebuild.
 
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Are Hertl & Couture OK retiring without another shot at the Stanley Cup?

I understand they love the area, and Sharks are the only team they ever played for. But given that the Sharks won't compete for the Stanley Cup until 2030s, might they be open to a limited number of teams for whom they would waive their NMC? I believe both still have a positive value (assuming Juicy comes back healthy and plays well). Would be good to get a few more 1st rounders to round out our rebuild.
I doubt either of them have 1st round pull w/o retention. Retention doesn't seem like a realistic option until 2025.
 
I doubt either of them have 1st round pull w/o retention. Retention doesn't seem like a realistic option until 2025.
I'm not sure Couture does at all. We need to see how he looks after he comes back, but even last year I was skeptical
 
I'm not sure Couture does at all. We need to see how he looks after he comes back, but even last year I was skeptical
Given Couture's age and this serious injury, he is probably not tradeable anyway until after the 2024-2025 season when Burns' retention slot comes off the books. Needs to prove this year and next year he can still play...and maybe then his much shorter remaining deal (8M x2 years) can be moved. Plus Couture will stick around then for another 2 years as this rebuild continues...that would be helpful too.
 
There’s no reason to trade Couture. He’s a good vet, can play any forward position, and it’s not like we need the cap space. I’m currently satisfied with the cap situation we have, other than Vlasic, whom I keep forgetting is even on this roster.

Actually, it’s pretty insane how much dead cap we have for the next few years. Between Burns/Karlsson retention, Knyzhov/Lindblom/Simek in the minors, and Jones/Balcers buy out, that’s like $10M.
 

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