Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[shadow1]

It's worth noting that 2021-2022 was an outlier season for all of Nashville's big guns:

	Arvidsson	Duchene	Forsberg	Granlund	Johansen	Josi
2020	28 (.49 ppg)	42 (.64 ppg)	48 (.76 ppg)	30 (.48 ppg)	36 (.53 ppg)	65 (.94 ppg)
2021	25 (.50 ppg)	13 (.38 ppg)	32 (.82 ppg)	27 (.53 ppg)	22 (.46 ppg)	33 (.69 ppg)
2022	49 (.74 ppg) [LA]	86 (1.1 ppg)	84 (1.2 ppg)	64 (.80 ppg)	63 (.80 ppg)	96 (1.2 ppg)
2023	59 (.76 ppg) [LA]	56 (.79 ppg)	42 (.84 ppg)	36 (.62 ppg)	28 (.51 ppg)	59 (.88 ppg)

In general, the Predator's offense stunk under Hynes. Arvidsson and he butted heads, and I know Hynes commented on his relationship with Johansen at least once.

Hoping Johansen can bounce back like Arvidsson has in LA.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Johansen

Even Johasnen's last 3 out of 4 seasons were better than any season from Compher outside of last year, and the 4th was just a couple pace points off.

Compher

2016-17: 20 pt pace (5 points)
2017-18: 27 pt pace (23 points)
2018-19: 40 pt pace (32 points)
2019-20: 38 pt pace (31 points)
2020-21: 31 pt pace (18 points)
2021-22: 39 pt pace (33 points)
2022-23: 52 pt pace (52 points)

Johansen

2011-12: 26 pt pace (21 points)
2012-13: 25 pt pace (12 points)
2013-14: 63 pt pace (63 points)
2014-15: 71 pt pace (71 points)
2015-16: 62 pt pace (60 points)
2016-17: 61 pt pace (61 points)
2017-18: 56 pt pace (54 points)
2018-19: 66 pt pace (64 points)
2019-20: 43 pt pace (36 points)
2020-21: 38 pt pace (22 points)
2021-22: 65 pt pace (63 points)
2022-23: 42 pt pace (28 points)

Better than Compher is all fine and dandy and good for Ryjo. But a guy who struggles to achieve a 45 point pace in 3 of 4 seasons and a guy who struggles to put up 40 actual points half the time due to health issues is a big question mark as a 2C.

And the track record of this team when it comes to evaluating the C position is a bit iffy.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Similarly, JTC has never had a year close to what RyJo did 2 seasons ago.

One player gives us a guaranteed early playoff exit every time he’s played that position on this team.

The other player, no matter how slim the chances are he returns to form, gives us a realistic chance at the Cup if he attains that level.

You're right... Except for the fact we literally won the cup with him as our 2C for half the playoffs.


But still yeah you're absolutely right... except not at all

 

[BobRossColton]

Still think it would be awesome to pull (save) Hayton from Arizona.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Still think it would be awesome to pull (save) Hayton from Arizona.

The opportunity for that is likely gone now, if he were available, it would’ve been before he demonstrated he could be somewhat productive

 

[sethro109]

I'd hardly count that stroll through Edmonton and the 3 games in Tampa that Compher played 2C a huge accomplishment. That mother f***er had 1 whole assist and zero goals the entire Tampa series with 81 minutes of ice time.

 

[the_fan]

I wish I could remember what the general mood was like around here when Avs traded for Kadri to be the 2C. I’m guessing some of us weren’t too happy, some of us were happy just like right now after signing RyJo

 

[NateTheGreat]

You're right... Except for the fact we literally won the cup with him as our 2C for half the playoffs.


But still yeah you're absolutely right... except not at all

“Half the playoffs”

Kadri 16GP 7G 8A 15P +7

Compher 20GP 5G 3A 8P -1

Delusion is nasty.

 

[sethro109]

I wish I could remember what the general mood was like around here when Avs traded for Kadri to be the 2C. I’m guessing some of us weren’t too happy, some of us were happy just like right now after signing RyJo

I remember being kinda annoyed about it. I would constantly post that we needed a player like Kadri, but without the suspension troubles.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

“Half the playoffs”

Kadri 16GP 7G 8A 15P +7

Compher 20GP 5G 3A 8P -1

Delusion is nasty.

He played 1 shift in game 3 against the Oilers before Kane knocked him out. And when he returned in the series against Tampa he did not play Center.


So yes, JTC was the 2C for 8/20 of the playoff games.

 

[the_fan]

I remember being kinda annoyed about it. I would constantly post that we needed a player like Kadri, but without the suspension troubles.

Generally speaking we’re never happy around here no matter what

 

[BobRossColton]

The opportunity for that is likely gone now, if he were available, it would’ve been before he demonstrated he could be somewhat productive

Oh yeah I know. Pretty much 99.9% wishful thinking, although I'm still hopeful for a trade.

 

[JH21]

So wait, let me get this straight...there are actually people who think JT Compher is better than Ryan Johansen?? Seriously?? That's some next level troll sh%t right there.

Johansen playing with Rantanen and Lehkonen/Nichushkin is almost guaranteed to hit 25 goals and 65-70 points. Meanwhile, JT had 17 goals and 52 points as an outlier season in a contract year playing with those same guys and averaged .42 PPG in all his other seasons here. Johansen meanwhile has a career PPG of .66

They are no-where near the equal talent wise. It's not even close.

 

[Gumballhead]

So wait, let me get this straight...there are actually people who think JT Compher is better than Ryan Johansen?? Seriously?? That's some next level troll sh%t right there.

Johansen playing with Rantanen and Lehkonen/Nichushkin is almost guaranteed to hit 25 goals and 65-70 points. Meanwhile, JT had 17 goals and 52 points as an outlier season in a contract year playing with those same guys and averaged .42 PPG in all his other seasons here. Johansen meanwhile has a career PPG of .66

They are no-where near the equal talent wise. It's not even close.

Ryjo is on a different level talent wise, but he's most likely on the decline. But that should still equal a better fit than Compher here. The comparisons are fine for killing time waiting for the season but I'm excited for getting a player with the offensive acumen of Ryjo. Compher was a fantastic role player for this team but he was never going to provide or create the threat that a truly offensively gifted player would.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Still think it would be awesome to pull (save) Hayton from Arizona.

Hayton & Crouse were my biggest desires for the offseason. Of course, I was crazy enough to think the Avs would have to trade one of their Dmen for a center, too.

I gotta tell you, Joe Sakic would probably commit unmentionable acts to have a group of second rounders that looked like Arizona's....

That's a damn stack of trade chips.

 

[BobRossColton]

Hayton & Crouse were my biggest desires for the offseason. Of course, I was crazy enough to think the Avs would have to trade one of their Dmen for a center, too.

I gotta tell you, Joe Sakic would probably commit unmentionable acts to have a group of second rounders that looked like Arizona's....

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That's some damn ammunition.

If only we had a 24 and 26 2nd, could complete a 3x4 grid for them.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Hayton & Crouse were my biggest desires for the offseason. Of course, I was crazy enough to think the Avs would have to trade one of their Dmen for a center, too.

I gotta tell you, Joe Sakic would probably commit unmentionable acts to have a group of second rounders that looked like Arizona's....

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That's a damn stack of trade chips.

Sakic and CMac would be vomiting in the streets if they saw that many seconds. They’d be trading the seconds for thirds just to not have the seconds

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Sakic and CMac would be vomiting in the streets if they saw that many seconds. They’d be trading the seconds for thirds just to not have the seconds

It'd make things easier to fix the holes that will appear as the season goes along. We still don't have much left to work with....

 

[The Kingslayer]

Hayton & Crouse were my biggest desires for the offseason. Of course, I was crazy enough to think the Avs would have to trade one of their Dmen for a center, too.

I gotta tell you, Joe Sakic would probably commit unmentionable acts to have a group of second rounders that looked like Arizona's....

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That's a damn stack of trade chips.

Crouse would be so awesome for this team.

 

[S E P H]

Compher last year was easily better then Ryan Johansen in 3 of the last 4 years.

It quite literally is not a debate.


Once again we are quickly getting into blatant homer territory here... It's ridiculous.

Yes, but we need to figure out the reason.

Is it because Compher is the better player now? Or was it because Compher got a free ride in Malibu, California under Margot Robbie, whilst Johansen had to play under Danny DeVito in the Idaho city where Napolean Dynamite takes place in?

 

[BobRossColton]

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That's a damn stack of trade chips.

If they want to hoard all the 2nds, G+OO+2026 2nd for Crouse+Hayton.

Crouse would be the drouin safety net

 

[JLo217]

This thread is too bananas right now. Even for me.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

It'd make things easier to fix the holes that will appear as the season goes along. We still don't have much left to work with....

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They still have all the 1st rounders + prospects. More than enough trade capital if the Avs want to get active.

The cap is the issue.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Crouse would be so awesome for this team.

Especially with Landy most likely being donezo

 

[Hasbro]

Crouse would be so awesome for this team.

So would Prester John.