| Points (B) | TOI (B) | Points (A) | TOI (A) |
|---|
| Burakovsky | 25 (.32 ppg) | 11:08 | 45 (.78 ppg) | 15:12 |
| Kadri | 44 (.60 ppg) | 16:11 | 36 (.71 ppg) | 17:26 |
| Donskoi | 37 (.46 ppg) | 13:25 | 33 (.51 ppg) | 16:15 |
| Nichushkin | 10 (.18 ppg) | 11:15 | 27 (.42 ppg) | 14:04 |
| Saad | 33 (.57 ppg) | 16:45 | 24 (.55 ppg) | 14:05 |
| Lehkonen | 38 (.51 ppg) | 15:06 | 51 (.80 ppg) | 20:27 |
| Rodrigues | 43 (.52 ppg) | 15:50 | 39 (.57 ppg) | 17:51 |
| Johansen | 28 (.51 ppg) | 15:46 | | |
| Colton | 32 (.40 ppg) | 12:21 | | |
| Wood | 27 (.36 ppg) | 12:06 | | |
| Drouin | 29 (.50 ppg) | 14:54 | | |
B = Season before joining Colorado
A = 1st season with Colorado
On average, the forwards the Avalanche have added have seen an increase of +2:14 (ATOI) and +0.17 (PPG). Brandon Saad is the only outlier, and even then his productivity was a wash despite a big decrease in ice time.
Anyone else curious how the blank cells will look in a year?
Forgive me if I got your point wrong about ATOI, but this is kind of a chicken/egg argument regarding ice time and performance and IMO it's pretty clear that performance comes before and drives the ice time.
In general, ice time is just an indicator of how well a player is playing. If they're playing well they get more ice time. If they're not they get less. So the increase in ice time in Colorado is just further proof IMO that they played better in Colorado, and usually underperformed in prior seasons.
Usually only players capable of scoring that way get a boost from the extra ice time. If they're not capable the extra time just makes them look worse.
Bednar doesn't really give players ice time unless they earn it either. Maybe a a few games to try someone in a bigger role, but they don't last there long if they're not cutting it.
Goals and points per minute can also be notoriously misleading stats. It's entirely too team and score dependent.
You can have a whole bunch of ice time, but your team is up 2-3 goals, so you don't try as hard to score as you would with less ice time but the score tied or you're trailing. This is going to heavily impact the numbers and vary wildly from the best to worst teams.
You can have your ATOI boosted with a bunch of PP time, when your team has a bad power play, and never scores.
You can have your ATOI boosted by your coach making you a penalty killer where you are very unlikely to score during those extra minutes.
You can have your ATOI boosted by getting promoted to the top 6 or top line due to injuries, but not score as much as those roles might expect, because you're not actually a top six or top line player.
And actually I would bet part of the reason there was a boost in ice time on the Avs was because they were in fact covering for other players that were injured. Avs always have a ton of injuries, and all those guys listed would have been the first to move up.
You can also just use the eye test and look at how all those guys played on Avs, versus off, and see that they played much better on the Avs. You can also just look how they were viewed by fans on and off the Avs.
Saad, Burakovksy, and Val were all whipping boys on their prior teams, while Donskoi was after leaving. Habs fans are jealous they never got this Lehkonen in Montreal. And ERod wasn't able to get the deal he just got prior to being with the Avs.
