2022 QMJHL Draft

hawkeye east

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Emphasize "BIG Minutes", Cole Harbour, more then any team I have seen. runs the S"&T out of their top guys....Miller / Peitz are getting a ton of ice...similar to what they did with Todd /McPhee last season...combine that with an overall weaker league then previous years and you have #'s that end up a little inflated. Arsenault plays the point on the PP, so I would say missed a few offesnive stats and to be honest...he is not surround by gifted IQ guys, Vito's are more crash and band then finesse.
Here's to hoping we see all in of them in round 1.
100% agree about Arsenault and the Vitos. He’s likely the most physically mature kid set to go in the first two rounds. Vitos play a crash and bang style…. I guess a team will have to make decision:
Is Arsenault a result of the system he plays in or is he a player that is key to driving that playing style. You don’t see a ton of skill or creativity in his game and never really have. Is that because of his lack of skill or the way the team is coached / players around him. Either way an interesting player for sure.
 
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Emphasize "BIG Minutes", Cole Harbour, more then any team I have seen. runs the S"&T out of their top guys....Miller / Peitz are getting a ton of ice...similar to what they did with Todd /McPhee last season...combine that with an overall weaker league then previous years and you have #'s that end up a little inflated. Arsenault plays the point on the PP, so I would say missed a few offesnive stats and to be honest...he is not surround by gifted IQ guys, Vito's are more crash and band then finesse.
Here's to hoping we see all in of them in round 1.
Like I said we all see it different at the end of the day they will fall where they fall within team needs , I respect your opinion, but don’t have to agree .
 

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Just wondering folks thoughts after the first weekend of playoff hockey in the NS U18 league. A couple of upsets brewing possibly ... South Shore (#8) split with Halifax (#1) in their first 2 games and the same for Weeks (#7) vs Dartmouth (#2) ... with both lower seeds heading home for the next 2 games.
Liam Furey really struggled and was pulled after after giving up 3 goals on 9 shots in the first. I can't help but think his stats are over inflated due to the team that plays in front of him and he is hardly battle tested. I wonder if he will even see anymore action this series? It's also nice to see Jared Pitman for SS get off to a solid start. He is a sleeper pick heading into the draft in my opinion.

As for Weeks, these guys have played a bunch of solid games since the start up and it seems like they have a legit shot to take this series. Eli James in nets stole game one stopping 38/40. He was the top 2006 goalie coming into the season and he's certainly battle tested having played on such a weak team this year. His game and skills are legit and scouts who do their homework should realize this. Major mistake for Weeks to not start him in game 2 where they lost 8-4.

Finally, it's such a shame that the Telus Cup Host Team (Sydney Rush) will be gone after the 1st round. They have a ton of talent but have been super inconsistent all season long.
 

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I mainly see PEI guys in NB/PEI U18. Few guys have really made a jump lately in my opinion.
Dickson on wild is finding his scoring touch. Leading the team in scoring. Shorter player but solid on his skates. Doesn’t get talked about enough for draft.
Sharkey on wild has started to produce lately as well. Not the biggest guy but good hockey sense. Doesn’t get talked about enough for draft.
Campbell on Knights is back playing well after the break. Strong 2 way player.
Griffin on Knights is leading all 06 draft eligibles in the league in scoring. Big body 6’2 6’3. Doesn’t get talked about enough for draft.
Nicholson on Knights playing good two way game. Solid body good skater.
Waugh still playing good solid hockey. Not taking as many risks which has helped him. Great skater. Heavy shot.
 

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When you say "doesn't get talked about enough for draft", what exactly does that mean? On this board? Or in general around the rinks?
 

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When you say "doesn't get talked about enough for draft", what exactly does that mean? On this board? Or in general around the rinks?
I guess because they weren’t as high on CSR lists as they should be compared to some weaker players that were/are. CSR guys can have heads in the clouds. Luckily for the players teams do their homework and know the difference in most cases.
 

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Then why compose a list ….. to promote a few kids or perhaps one kid ( yours) and few friends. Quite obvious. Litalien has been talked about by many as a number one pick. Not in the top ten. Interesting to say the least.

If that's the case, scoutman1 has been a busy man over the years. What's it been 15 years of posting lists of all your kids @scoutman1?!? jeesh. You must be tired. Seeing someone make an account and call you out almost makes me think there's a Kosik in this draft class.
 

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If that's the case, scoutman1 has been a busy man over the years. What's it been 15 years of posting lists of all your kids @scoutman1?!? jeesh. You must be tired. Seeing someone make an account and call you out almost makes me think there's a Kosik in this draft class.
It’s pretty clear that most people posting in the forum have a horse in the race. Either parent, coach, former coach, agent , friend of an agent etc . I called it like I saw it…. Also wouldn’t an agent have reoccurring kids he’s promoting and in fact likely be on this forum for multiple years? Maybe 5-10 infact…. I don’t think that’s a business your in for a year or two? Or am I wrong ? Not sure what a KOSIK is.
 

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It’s pretty clear that most people posting in the forum have a horse in the race. Either parent, coach, former coach, agent , friend of an agent etc . I called it like I saw it…. Also wouldn’t an agent have reoccurring kids he’s promoting and in fact likely be on this forum for multiple years? Maybe 5-10 infact…. I don’t think that’s a business your in for a year or two? Or am I wrong ? Not sure what a KOSIK is.

The only problem with your theory is that the players scoutman has hyped up in his lists over the years are never represented by the same agencies.

But even more importantly, his list has no impact on the draft results. And even more even more importantly, the draft results have no impact on how players develop. They're just lists to give fans who are interested in the draft an idea of who the top prospects are.... in his eyes. It's not that serious.

You don't need a horse in the race to post in these forums but I do agree, it's usually pretty clear when someone does. Usually because they come in with conspiracy theories and act as if posting on HFBoards makes a player better or worse on the ice. Kosik Sr. was infamous for it.
 
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The only problem with your theory is that the players scoutman has hyped up in his lists over the years are never represented by the same agencies.

But even more importantly, his list has no impact on the draft results. And even more even more importantly, the draft results have no impact on how players develop. They're just lists to give fans who are interested in the draft an idea of who the top prospects are.... in his eyes. It's not that serious.

You don't need a horse in the race to post in these forums but I do agree, it's usually pretty clear when someone does. Usually because they come in with conspiracy theories and act as if posting on HFBoards makes a player better or worse on the ice. Kosik Sr. was infamous for it.
Sorry guys but if you think that agents come on this forum to hype players, you are way off. No team come here to get information on players so there is no point for them to use this board. Agents have direct access to every team to sell their guys. They promote their kids via Twitter, Facebook and Instagram by sharing videos and awards received. This forum is not a credible source of information. Sorry for the reality check my friends!
 

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Sorry guys but if you think that agents come on this forum to hype players, you are way off. No team come here to get information on players so there is no point for them to use this board. Agents have direct access to every team to sell their guys. They promote their kids via Twitter, Facebook and Instagram by sharing videos and awards received. This forum is not a credible source of information. Sorry for the reality check my friends!
Easy now...it is a credible source of info, just not one that is used by GM and Scouting staff to form their draft lists. I know many Q scouts both in Quebec and the Maritimes and their resumes are not that impressive...but just the same they are employed. Scouts are far from God's most are friends of friends that dabble in hockey, but like all of have opinions that are just as far off as the next guy!
As far as agents go...you are bang on...they have every GM on speed dial and some have some serious pull. Agents get players drafted higher then they are projected all the time...as a matter of fact they get kids on teams ahead of other kids. A lot of back scratching at every level of hockey.
 

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Easy now...it is a credible source of info, just not one that is used by GM and Scouting staff to form their draft lists. I know many Q scouts both in Quebec and the Maritimes and their resumes are not that impressive...but just the same they are employed. Scouts are far from God's most are friends of friends that dabble in hockey, but like all of have opinions that are just as far off as the next guy!
As far as agents go...you are bang on...they have every GM on speed dial and some have some serious pull. Agents get players drafted higher then they are projected all the time...as a matter of fact they get kids on teams ahead of other kids. A lot of back scratching at every level of hockey.
To me, a credible source of information is not covered by a nickname. You usually know who tells what and you can check the background of this insider . The other thing is that when you look at the amount of posts on this board, only a certain ratio is 100% credible. To me, a credible source of information is usually 100% proof.

I'm not saying that everything you read here is BS. I'm just saying that no team is relying on what is written here. We're just a bunch of hockey freaks sharing toughts just for fun. I don't think that we have any influence on the hockey world in any way.

Hope my point has been clarified, I don't mean to offend anyone and I fully respect any opinion that goes in a different direction.
 
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Sorry guys but if you think that agents come on this forum to hype players, you are way off. No team come here to get information on players so there is no point for them to use this board. Agents have direct access to every team to sell their guys. They promote their kids via Twitter, Facebook and Instagram by sharing videos and awards received. This forum is not a credible source of information. Sorry for the reality check my friends!

This feels weirdly directed at me when I'm saying the same thing lol
 

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There's a weird thing that happens on HFBoards where people argue over lists as if it somehow changes what happens on the ice or in the draft. I know because I've definitely been apart of that when I was younger LOL

@scoutman1 has been on this site for almost 2 decades. I've never known him to jam his list down anyones throat, he just posts his opinion. Some of his lists have been god awful and some of them he's been high on guys that didn't go as high as they should have. It's the nature of scouting because even scouts can't really control how much effort a player puts in to development or how much effort a team puts into developing their prospects.

I try not to dump on people who are willing to actually post their lists publicly if I'm not able to post my own. If someone is clearly just stat watching and come up with something random based on the general consensus, dump away!
 

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There's a weird thing that happens on HFBoards where people argue over lists as if it somehow changes what happens on the ice or in the draft. I know because I've definitely been apart of that when I was younger LOL

@scoutman1 has been on this site for almost 2 decades. I've never known him to jam his list down anyones throat, he just posts his opinion. Some of his lists have been god awful and some of them he's been high on guys that didn't go as high as they should have. It's the nature of scouting because even scouts can't really control how much effort a player puts in to development or how much effort a team puts into developing their prospects.

I try not to dump on people who are willing to actually post their lists publicly if I'm not able to post my own. If someone is clearly just stat watching and come up with something random based on the general consensus, dump away!
I fully agree with you. My latest post wasn't directed to you. Sorry if I lead you to think that. I replied to the latest quote on the subject when I should have replied to the initial one to make my point. I agree that we both say pretty much the same thing. Not a big fan of the conspiracy theory! :)
 
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To me, a credible source of information is not covered by a nickname. You usually know who tells what and you can check the background of this insider . The other thing is that when you look at the amount of posts on this board, only a certain ratio is 100% credible. To me, a credible source of information is usually 100% proof.

I'm not saying that everything you read here is BS. I'm just saying that no team is relying on what is written here. We're just a bunch of hockey freaks sharing toughts just for fun. I don't think that we have any influence on the hockey world in any way.

Hope my point has been clarified, I don't mean to offend anyone and I fully respect any opinion that goes in a different direction.
LOL , I am just busting ya... I am no more credible then the next guy, but neither is the scout who got a job because he played 4 years in the Q. I am a hockey fan who loves chatting about and projecting players. Glad this board exists otherwise I would drive my wife crazy.
 
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I fully agree with you. My latest post wasn't directed to you. Sorry if I lead you to think that. I replied to the latest quote on the subject when I should have replied to the initial one to make my point. I agree that we both say pretty much the same thing. Not a big fan of the conspiracy theory! :)

There have been some juicy conspiracy theories on here that turned out to be true.

I'll never forget a parent coming on HFboards around 2012/13 to dump on his sons teammates/opponents and prop up his son. It was so obvious and we figured him out really quick. Icing on the cake was he was making multiple accounts to agree with himself LOL

We say posting on HFboards doesn't have an impact but I know that poor kid landed on some DO NOT DRAFT lists because of his fathers consistently weird actions.
 

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There have been some juicy conspiracy theories on here that turned out to be true.

I'll never forget a parent coming on HFboards around 2012/13 to dump on his sons teammates/opponents and prop up his son. It was so obvious and we figured him out really quick. Icing on the cake was he was making multiple accounts to agree with himself LOL

We say posting on HFboards doesn't have an impact but I know that poor kid landed on some DO NOT DRAFT lists because of his fathers consistently weird actions.
I agree. We've seen something similar a couple of months ago on this same topic.

It's just that I don't see a conspiracy behind every list posted.
 

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The only problem with your theory is that the players scoutman has hyped up in his lists over the years are never represented by the same agencies.

But even more importantly, his list has no impact on the draft results. And even more even more importantly, the draft results have no impact on how players develop. They're just lists to give fans who are interested in the draft an idea of who the top prospects are.... in his eyes. It's not that serious.

You don't need a horse in the race to post in these forums but I do agree, it's usually pretty clear when someone does. Usually because they come in with conspiracy theories and act as if posting on HFBoards makes a player better or worse on the ice. Kosik Sr. was infamous for it.
All I was saying was his list had like 6 NS kids going on the top 10 ( I think ) and usually there are around 6 maritime kids that go in the first round. My strong feeling is after shields, Kennedy and Phillips there is likely no more first round talent out of NS. Ramsay, Peitzche, Miller , fury etc are top three rounds kids but not top ten! I figure he put these names in the high end because of some bias….. HE came back with that he works with an agent . Read it the posts.
 

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This is my projected list as of now !!
1. Will shields
2.Gabriel Daigle
3. Sacha boisvert ( if he commits to team )
4.Reece Peitzsche
5. Felix Lacerte
6. Owen Philips
7. Adam fortier Gendron
8. Thomas Desruisseaux
9. Xavier Veilleux
10.Spencer Gill
11. Julien Lanthier
12. Eliot Litalien
13. Alexandre Lallier
14. Conner Arsenault
15. Raoul Boilard
16. Maxim Masse
17. Coen Miller
18. Tyler Wood
19. Justin Poirier
20. Quinn Kennedy
 
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