2022 QMJHL Draft

[3 Minute Minor]

All I was saying was his list had like 6 NS kids going on the top 10 ( I think ) and usually there are around 6 maritime kids that go in the first round. My strong feeling is after shields, Kennedy and Phillips there is likely no more first round talent out of NS. Ramsay, Peitzche, Miller , fury etc are top three rounds kids but not top ten! I figure he put these names in the high end because of some bias….. HE came back with that he works with an agent . Read it the posts.

That's another thing that has happened as long as the QMJHL has existed, Maritime scouts put Maritimers higher and QC scouts put QC scouts higher. Hell some QC based QMJHL teams don't even have Maritime scouts and rely solely on tournaments. It's always going to be the way because you're always going to be more comfortable ranking a guy you've seen 10 times vs. a guy you've seen once or maybe not at all because he plays a timezone west of you.

 

[HKYEAST]

That's another thing that has happened as long as the QMJHL has existed, Maritime scouts put Maritimers higher and QC scouts put QC scouts higher. Hell some QC based QMJHL teams don't even have Maritime scouts and rely solely on tournaments. It's always going to be the way because you're always going to be more comfortable ranking a guy you've seen 10 times vs. a guy you've seen once or maybe not at all because he plays a timezone west of you.

Exactly, combine that with the fact that some Quebec teams rarely draft Maritime players, some Maritime players refuse to go to Quebec teams and you have an upside down 1st round.
If Shields is in fact ranked that high and is being considered as #1 overall....I would be quite certain that BC , Victo or Chic are not high on his list and may force the hand of some teams similar to Peddle and other before that.
Next becomes Team needs vs BPA....depending on who picks 1st overall we may just see a goalie take that spot....and it has been years since that has happened.

 

[Lap2000]

This is my projected list as of now !!
1. Will shields
2.Gabriel Daigle
3. Sacha boisvert ( if he commits to team )
4.Reece Peitzsche
5. Felix Lacerte
6. Owen Philips
7. Adam fortier Gendron
8. Thomas Desruisseaux
9. Xavier Veilleux
10.Spencer Gill
11. Julien Lanthier
12. Eliot Litalien
13. Alexandre Lallier
14. Conner Arsenault
15. Raoul Boilard
16. Maxim Masse
17. Coen Miller
18. Tyler Wood
19. Justin Poirier
20. Quinn Kennedy

Interesting list. Having watched a bit of 15o this year I didn’t see the top of the draft being like this but none the less appreciate the list. It’s hard to do the cross comparison with not a lot of inter league. The 15o is a good league although not as good as the 16u league. Shields is a top 5 in the 15o and a top 10 including the 16u same agers. He’s an offensive force but needs to show the same stats against top teams that he does against lower teams. Either way it takes talent in both cases. I think if he comes over as a number 1 pick it is quite a disparaging view of the Canadian leagues and the quality of play here. It’s a tough one.

 

[ATLHockeywatcher]

NSU18MHL AWARD WINNERS AND ALL-STARS

ROOKIE ALL-STAR TEAM
Goalie Liam Furey Halifax McDonalds
Defense Elliot Kavanaugh Steele Subaru
Defense Eric Halliday Halifax McDonalds
Forward Reece Peitzsche Cole Harbour Pro Hockey Life Wolfpack
Forward Quinn Kennedy Halifax McDonalds
Forward Riley Sampson CB West Islanders

INDIVIDUAL PLAYER AWARDS
Award Player Team

Rookie of the Year Coen Miller Cole Harbour Pro Hockey Life Wolfpack
The Scott Dee Memorial Trophy - Top Rookie Defenseman Ian Ramsay Cole Harbour Pro Hockey Life Wolfpack

 

[Prospect Tracker]

Gabriel D'Aigle leads his team for a big win in 5 games. 0.943% and 2 shutouts. Allowed only 2 goals on 52 shots in the first game. I'm not hot on picking a goalie first overall but this kid is pretty hard to ignore.

 

[Stastny26]

Gabriel D'Aigle leads his team for a big win in 5 games. 0.943% and 2 shutouts. Allowed only 2 goals on 52 shots in the first game. I'm not hot on picking a goalie first overall but this kid is pretty hard to ignore.

Sounds like what Eli James just did in NS ... He stopped 147/153 shots over 4 games for a 0.961% to lead the Weeks Majors (#7 seed) in their 5 game upset of Dartmouth Steele (#2 seed) including a 40 save shutout in their barn in Game 5. Dartmouth basically doubled them in shots every game as well.

Matt Vohra was also lights out for the Weeks Majors scoring 5 times in the 5 game series vs Dartmouth.

Meanwhile, Liam Furey for the Macs was basically relegated to the bench in their opening round of the playoffs vs the #8 seed ... he was pulled in his first playoff game after allowing 3 goals on 9 shots. This kid has the size but he is hardly battle tested having the Macs offence in front of him.

 

[wayupnorth]

When do teams get finalized for the u16 Gatorade?

 

[ATLHockeywatcher]

When do teams get finalized for the u16 Gatorade?

Invitations went out last week so they are getting very close.

 

[ATLHockeywatcher]

Goal differential is 22 through 3 games in PEI U18 final, was similar or worse last year when the two teams squared off against each other. Hockey PEI has to step in and make some changes for the sake of all those involved. If we aren't going to establish some boundaries or loyalty rules with players from year to year then perhaps a solution would be moving to one Major U18 team and having a 2nd team join the NS U16 league? Continuous lopsided games are not good for anyone in the game!

 

[HKYEAST]

Goal differential is 22 through 3 games in PEI U18 final, was similar or worse last year when the two teams squared off against each other. Hockey PEI has to step in and make some changes for the sake of all those involved. If we aren't going to establish some boundaries or loyalty rules with players from year to year then perhaps a solution would be moving to one Major U18 team and having a 2nd team join the NS U16 league? Continuous lopsided games are not good for anyone in the game!

Yes, I agree with your points....maybe it should be the top 2 Teams from the NBPEI league that attend the Atlantic Championships rather then give a free pass to what ever team stacks their roster in PEI each year. Here is NS....you have to earn a trip to Atlantics...in PEI it seems to be decided before the season starts

 

[Lap2000]

Goal differential is 22 through 3 games in PEI U18 final, was similar or worse last year when the two teams squared off against each other. Hockey PEI has to step in and make some changes for the sake of all those involved. If we aren't going to establish some boundaries or loyalty rules with players from year to year then perhaps a solution would be moving to one Major U18 team and having a 2nd team join the NS U16 league? Continuous lopsided games are not good for anyone in the game!

At present the second PEI team would be positioned middle of the pack in NSU16 - I say 4th in that league. They would win and loose some games and be an contender either way. They have a few forwards in the top 10 and 1 in the top 5. They would loose about 5 or 6 players due to being overagers which would push those kids to high school potentially. The other PEI team would be a top contender for the U18 atlantics every year as well. I like it as an independent outsider - but internally I don't see it happening.

 

[Prospect Tracker]

Question for Wintersun, or anyone who has the knowledge,

How would you rate the next draft compared to 2019/2020/2021 at each position?

2019 was a good draft for offensive potential but weaker on defence and goaltending.

2020 was a great draft for defencemen and goaltending.

2021 was pretty balanced and more difficult to evaluate due to the fact that there was no season in Quebec. .

How about 2022 in your opinion?

 

[HKYEAST]

I am no Wintersun...but I will give you my opinion just the same. LOL.

2022 will be a solid draft, I feel it has improved significantly from September until now and will continue to get better. The main reason for this is that we did not see these kids in their 2nd year U15, or at least very limited viewings and we all know how much a kid can mature physically from age 13-15.

I would say there is no "stud" in this draft, with the exception of D'Aigle who could prove to be a generational talent. Top 8-10 Forwards and 8-10 D are very good however....falling just behind the 2021 draft...but not very far. This draft drops off in rounds 4 and up compared to last season, where you still a some nice talent getting drafted in rounds 5 -7.

The wildcard for this draft will be who reports to the Q and who stays in the US. I think if Boisvert, Philips , Sheilds, Wood, Dumais, all come back the draft goes up one more notch.

I have watched Gill from Moncton the last few games he has played and the kid is getting better everytime I see him. If his team continues to have success and he shows well at the Gatorade in late April, he could push for a top 3 spot in the draft, he is that good.

After watching CB West vs Wolfpack the past 2 weekends, the top guys from CH dropped in my ranking a bit. I value the ability to push thru adversity as one of the key ingredients in a players ranking and I did not see that quality out of that group. I would throw last years prodigy Todd in that mix as well, he needs a big summer or he will be destine for Jr A next season.

The Mac's 06's will be fun to watch vs CB west and will give us a direct comparison to the CH crew. Let's hope they bring their compete to the U18 final...they will need to be good to beat a hot and trending CB team.

 

[Wintersun]

Personally, I feel this draft is quite weak overall. Even when I'm looking at most guys in my first round, I feel most of them have question marks that go with their upside, or maybe I am comfortable with them but not sure they have that much upside. I'd say it could be a draft similar to the 02s.

I feel like it gets thin really quick compared to last year where I had players in round 3 that I knew would be for sure top 4 and top 6 players in the Q.

In terms of positional strength, I feel like the defensemen have grown on me quite a bit for the most part. As the season has advanced, I've been higher and higher on Lavoie, Veilleux, Lanthier, Bernier, Paré and a few others. On the forwards front, it all depends on the players playing in the USA right now. If these guys do not show up, I feel like the top end outside of Poirier is a solid question mark. You have the best goalie I've ever seen in D'Aigle in this draft, and some decent goalies for rounds 2-3-4 as well, so I think it may be a strong year for them although the depth in Espoir this year is not as strong as usual at the position. Overall, I'm starting to think that the forwards in this draft may be the weakness, and the draft overall seems on the weak side a little bit, but there will be many solid players every year no matter what.

 

[Mailman625]

Can’t wait for the draft the discussing has been great here , I get to see all the maritime kids not the Quebec kids unless on video.

 

[Mailman625]

I am no Wintersun...but I will give you my opinion just the same. LOL.

2022 will be a solid draft, I feel it has improved significantly from September until now and will continue to get better. The main reason for this is that we did not see these kids in their 2nd year U15, or at least very limited viewings and we all know how much a kid can mature physically from age 13-15.

I would say there is no "stud" in this draft, with the exception of D'Aigle who could prove to be a generational talent. Top 8-10 Forwards and 8-10 D are very good however....falling just behind the 2021 draft...but not very far. This draft drops off in rounds 4 and up compared to last season, where you still a some nice talent getting drafted in rounds 5 -7.

The wildcard for this draft will be who reports to the Q and who stays in the US. I think if Boisvert, Philips , Sheilds, Wood, Dumais, all come back the draft goes up one more notch.

I have watched Gill from Moncton the last few games he has played and the kid is getting better everytime I see him. If his team continues to have success and he shows well at the Gatorade in late April, he could push for a top 3 spot in the draft, he is that good.

After watching CB West vs Wolfpack the past 2 weekends, the top guys from CH dropped in my ranking a bit. I value the ability to push thru adversity as one of the key ingredients in a players ranking and I did not see that quality out of that group. I would throw last years prodigy Todd in that mix as well, he needs a big summer or he will be destine for Jr A next season.

The Mac's 06's will be fun to watch vs CB west and will give us a direct comparison to the CH crew. Let's hope they bring their compete to the U18 final...they will need to be good to beat a hot and trending CB team.

I respect your opinion totally , but the part on the cole harbour players I think your way off . Peitzsche , Miller , carried that team this year and in the playoffs as there depth for there 2nd and 3rd year players was not very strong . You have one kid In Miller That was wrote off totally for this draft for this year and just turning 16 and had a fantastic season winning rookie of the year , then you have Peitzsche who just turned 15 who was one of the main reasons why cole harbour made it to game 5 in the second round he is very dominant and in my opinion the best 2 way forward in Atlantic Canada and was all rookie team and from speaking with his coach he was one vote away from 1st team all star . For Todd I agree he did not show much this year and he will probably be relegated to junior A if his attitude doesn’t change that I do agree with you .
I expect Peitzsche to be first round along with Kennedy shields Phillips and Miller to be high second round.

 

[Mailman625]

Wintersun Why don’t you post your list , and let the rest of us discuss ?

 

[Wintersun]

I won't provide a detailed list in order, but I can give you ranges (in my opinion). Of course, for the USA players, their draft range will change based on the probability they show up.

Round 1 Locks: G. D'Aigle, O. Phillips, S. Boisvert, J. Poirier, X. Veilleux, J. Lanthier, T. Lavoie, S. Gill, W. Shields

Other strong first round candidates: T. Wood, M. Massé, F. Lacerte, T. Desruisseaux, J. Carbonneau, Q. Kennedy, M. Kearsey, R. Boilard, E. Litalien, R. Peitzsche, J. Leroux

Need to be picked in round 2 for me: C. Miller, G. Smith, A. Durocher, L. Cloutier, A. Bernier

Players I'd be comfortable picking in rounds 2 or 3: A. Paré, C. Arseneault, G. Fillion, J. Richard, A. Fortier-Gendron, N. Brisson, B. Zonnon, A. Lallier, E. Beaunoyer, O. Bresson, S. Leonard, M. Taillefer, V. Desjardins, A. Michaud, E. Depatie, V. Murray, O. Lemieux, A. Fontaine, M. Beaudoin, W. Dumais, I. Ramsay, L. Waugh, E. Ogonowski, M. Dubé, N. Larochelle, L. Furey, C. Aucoin, C. Griffin, S. Lamarche, Z. Pelletier

And of course there's many other solid prospects that I'd consider in rounds 4 through 14 with different qualities and upsides. Just my opinion obviously.

 

[Prospect Tracker]

I won't provide a detailed list in order, but I can give you ranges (in my opinion). Of course, for the USA players, their draft range will change based on the probability they show up.

Round 1 Locks: G. D'Aigle, O. Phillips, S. Boisvert, J. Poirier, X. Veilleux, J. Lanthier, T. Lavoie, S. Gill, W. Shields

Other strong first round candidates: T. Wood, M. Massé, F. Lacerte, T. Desruisseaux, J. Carbonneau, Q. Kennedy, M. Kearsey, R. Boilard, E. Litalien, R. Peitzsche, J. Leroux

Need to be picked in round 2 for me: C. Miller, G. Smith, A. Durocher, L. Cloutier, A. Bernier

Players I'd be comfortable picking in rounds 2 or 3: A. Paré, C. Arseneault, G. Fillion, J. Richard, A. Fortier-Gendron, N. Brisson, B. Zonnon, A. Lallier, E. Beaunoyer, O. Bresson, S. Leonard, M. Taillefer, V. Desjardins, A. Michaud, E. Depatie, V. Murray, O. Lemieux, A. Fontaine, M. Beaudoin, W. Dumais, I. Ramsay, L. Waugh, E. Ogonowski, M. Dubé, N. Larochelle, L. Furey, C. Aucoin, C. Griffin, S. Lamarche, Z. Pelletier

And of course there's many other solid prospects that I'd consider in rounds 4 through 14 with different qualities and upsides. Just my opinion obviously.

Where would you rank these D-Men?

D. Mackenzie
F. Plamondon
M. Gilbert
J. Smith

 

[Wintersun]

Where would you rank these D-Men?

D. Mackenzie
F. Plamondon
M. Gilbert
J. Smith

In the case of D. MacKenzie, the problem at this point is that he straight up isn't on the CSR list so can't be drafted. Purely in terms of skillset, if he had played the whole year he would probably be comfortably in my 2nd round, but at this point I don't even know if he can get drafted.

Plamondon, Gilbert and Smith are somewhere around round 5 for me. Smith maybe round 4.

 

[Prospect Tracker]

In the case of D. MacKenzie, the problem at this point is that he straight up isn't on the CSR list so can't be drafted. Purely in terms of skillset, if he had played the whole year he would probably be comfortably in my 2nd round, but at this point I don't even know if he can get drafted.

Plamondon, Gilbert and Smith are somewhere around round 5 for me. Smith maybe round 4.

If a team is interrested in a player that is not on the preliminary CSR list, that team can have him added on the final list.

 

[Wintersun]

If a team is interrested in a player that is not on the preliminary CSR list, that team can have him added on the final list.

I certainly hope he gets added and can get back to play.

 

[HKYEAST]

I respect your opinion totally , but the part on the cole harbour players I think your way off . Peitzsche , Miller , carried that team this year and in the playoffs as there depth for there 2nd and 3rd year players was not very strong . You have one kid In Miller That was wrote off totally for this draft for this year and just turning 16 and had a fantastic season winning rookie of the year , then you have Peitzsche who just turned 15 who was one of the main reasons why cole harbour made it to game 5 in the second round he is very dominant and in my opinion the best 2 way forward in Atlantic Canada and was all rookie team and from speaking with his coach he was one vote away from 1st team all star . For Todd I agree he did not show much this year and he will probably be relegated to junior A if his attitude doesn’t change that I do agree with you .
I expect Peitzsche to be first round along with Kennedy shields Phillips and Miller to be high second round.

I do agree with your point that the 06's carried the Wolfpack all season, no question. The problem is, the league was as weak as it has been in years, which allowed for elevated stats all season.
I will use Miller as an example, he is a solid player, but he is not a 1.44 PPG player in Quebec U18 AAA and thats the benchmark. The series vs the Islanders, when line matching was happening...the pace was elevated, he struggled to maintain that scoring pace, that's all I am saying. I see him as late 2nd, 3rd round pick that will really need to get stronger and faster to be an impact player in the Q. Another year of U18 will go a long way in his development.

 

[Lap2000]

Here is your first round in order for 2022. It comes with a money back guarantee!
1. Gabriel D'Aigle
2. Justin Poirer
3. Julian Lanthier
4. Jeremy Leroux
5. Sacha Boisvert
6. Felix Lacerte
7. Maxim Masse
8. Raoul Boilard
9. Tyler Wood
10. Quinn Kennedy
11. Xavier Veilleux
12. Ian Ramsay
13. Reece Peitzsche
14. Gill Spencer
15. Thomas Lavoie
16. Eliot Litalien
17. William Shields
18. Owen Philips
19. Justin Carboneau
20. Coen Miller

 

[wayupnorth]

What teams own the first & second picks these days? Draft order will be sorted after lottery and regular season