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tr83

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The Jets are still pretty bad. But they got a good coach, so they wont be in the bottom 3.

The Raiders still suck, Carolina took a step back, and the Eagles don't have a good roster either.
 

RangerDoggo

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I drafted my fantasy team last night. Two big reasons why I won my league last season was because I drafted Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs in the later rounds, and along with Alvin Kamara they were my biggest producers.

I also drafted a QB/WR pair in the late rounds this time, but it’s Tua and Fuller (currently serving a PED suspension). I’m hoping lightning strikes twice.
 

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I drafted my fantasy team last night. Two big reasons why I won my league last season was because I drafted Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs in the later rounds, and along with Alvin Kamara they were my biggest producers.

I also drafted a QB/WR pair in the late rounds this time, but it’s Tua and Fuller (currently serving a PED suspension). I’m hoping lightning strikes twice.

I haven’t played fantasy in a few years but I always found that my most successful years would come with a combination of 1… not drafting a dud in the 1st/2nd round and 2… exactly what you said… finding those late round gems that the following year would become 1st round picks.
 

My3Sons

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In my experience, fantasy football has an element of luck to it. Other than QBs a decent percentage of excellent players get hurt every year. Then there is always the guy picked up on waivers that has a great season. Then you have the matchup element where the bad luck team has the third most points scored but has the largest amount of points scored against. To me, until they come up with a reasonable way to equalize that last element it's sort of silly. Maybe have an adjustment based on your defense rather than having your defense score points? Typically rotisserie baseball and other sports accumulate stats and don't rely on head to head. That makes more sense to me.
 

NJDevs26

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In my experience, fantasy football has an element of luck to it. Other than QBs a decent percentage of excellent players get hurt every year. Then there is always the guy picked up on waivers that has a great season. Then you have the matchup element where the bad luck team has the third most points scored but has the largest amount of points scored against. To me, until they come up with a reasonable way to equalize that last element it's sort of silly. Maybe have an adjustment based on your defense rather than having your defense score points? Typically rotisserie baseball and other sports accumulate stats and don't rely on head to head. That makes more sense to me.

I mean you're not wrong but look at the amount of people that straight up gamble every year on anything and everything - fantasy football is more or less another form of gambling, only with the buddy element of busting on each other during the drafts or the satisfaction of making the right trades/pickups in a season rather than just getting lucky on a backdoor cover against the point spread.
 

My3Sons

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I mean you're not wrong but look at the amount of people that straight up gamble every year on anything and everything - fantasy football is more or less another form of gambling, only with the buddy element of busting on each other during the drafts or the satisfaction of making the right trades/pickups in a season rather than just getting lucky on a backdoor cover against the point spread.

Of course. I've participated in the past and my kids participate in multiple leagues at times. I get the attraction and the fun. I just think for something where you wager money with the expectation that "skill" will triumph that the luck greatly predominates which defeats the purpose. That aside, I still miss the commercial where the guy couldn't pronounce Houshmandzadeh and came back with "championship". If they reran that commercial maybe I'd consider coming out of retirement.
 

Zajacs Bowl Cut

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fantasy football definitely has a skill to it, but luck is definitely involved

you have to get lucky with injuries and the waiver wire, as examples
 
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RangerDoggo

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Fantasy football is definitely more luck than something like basketball or hockey, given that you only get one game a week. But you do have to know things. Last season I took Alvin Kamara over Saquon Barkley because of the latter’s injury concerns and the fact he plays for the Giants. Truly a wise choice.
 
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My3Sons

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Fantasy football is definitely more luck than something like basketball or hockey, given that you only get one game a week. But you do have to know things. Last season I took Alvin Kamara over Saquon Barkley because of the latter’s injury concerns and the fact he plays for the Giants. Truly a wise choice.

In every ten or twelve team league there are five or six participants who know what they are doing. In my experience it’s the luckiest in that group that wins not the smartest or most knowledgeable. It’s not that’s complicated in my view and basically everyone uses the same strategy. The first five or six picks are not likely to include more than one fluke. There are only so many number one running backs anymore and then you try to take the unicorn TE or WR and then the best of the committee runners who catches the most passes. The Ravens kicker is still the best one but the difference in good kickers isn’t enough to draft him above a starter at flex. Maybe there is a unicorn defense but maybe not. You want to take the up and coming receiver on the pass happy teams and hope he breaks out (Marquez Callaway if you haven’t had your draft yet). And at some point I think every team in the league will have to start Kirk Cousins even if they don’t need to.
 

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In every ten or twelve team league there are five or six participants who know what they are doing. In my experience it’s the luckiest in that group that wins not the smartest or most knowledgeable. It’s not that’s complicated in my view and basically everyone uses the same strategy. The first five or six picks are not likely to include more than one fluke. There are only so many number one running backs anymore and then you try to take the unicorn TE or WR and then the best of the committee runners who catches the most passes. The Ravens kicker is still the best one but the difference in good kickers isn’t enough to draft him above a starter at flex. Maybe there is a unicorn defense but maybe not. You want to take the up and coming receiver on the pass happy teams and hope he breaks out (Marquez Callaway if you haven’t had your draft yet). And at some point I think every team in the league will have to start Kirk Cousins even if they don’t need to.

Luck is definitely a huge part of it. The winner is also usually good at trades or waiver wire or both.

I picked up a second league this year to my usual redraft. It's a superflex auction league. Definitely a lot different and I'm curious to see how the year plays out in comparison.
 
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My3Sons

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Luck is definitely a huge part of it. The winner is also usually good at trades or waiver wire or both.

I picked up a second league this year to my usual redraft. It's a superflex auction league. Definitely a lot different and I'm curious to see how the year plays out in comparison.

Trades are a mess. They are too often the smart player taking advantage of the less experienced. Most leagues my kids are in have league voting on trades so they don’t decide the league. The waiver wire is the key. There is always some break out player but that’s somewhat luck since if you knew he’d break out you’d have drafted him in the first place.
 

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Trades are a mess. They are too often the smart player taking advantage of the less experienced. Most leagues my kids are in have league voting on trades so they don’t decide the league. The waiver wire is the key. There is always some break out player but that’s somewhat luck since if you knew he’d break out you’d have drafted him in the first place.
I am guilty of those trades. Love me a 2for1
 
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njdevils1982

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as a former fullback i have the right to say that the combined 112 yards rushing from both teams is disgusting

f*** both these teams…..if i want to watch an air show i can watch the CFL instead

dallas 24% run plays vs pass

RUSHINGATTYDSTDLG
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
E. Elliott1133013
T. Pollard314011
D. Prescott41307
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

tampa bay 22% run plays vs pass
RUSHINGATTYDSTDLG
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
L. Fournette93207
R. Jones41405
A. Brown1606
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

last years numbers

NFL Run/Pass Ratios - 2020
 
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NJDevs26

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as a former fullback i have the right to say that the combined 112 yards rushing from both teams is disgusting

f*** both these teams…..if i want to watch an air show i can watch the CFL instead

dallas 24% run plays vs pass

RUSHINGATTYDSTDLG
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
E. Elliott1133013
T. Pollard314011
D. Prescott41307
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
tampa bay 22% run plays vs pass
RUSHINGATTYDSTDLG
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
L. Fournette93207
R. Jones41405
A. Brown1606
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
last years numbers

NFL Run/Pass Ratios - 2020

That’s the NFL now, it’s as tailored to passing as the NBA is to three point shooting and MLB is to HR’s. It’s pretty telling that in the link you posted only three teams last year had more runs than passes, one of them has Derrick Henry, another had a shot Cam at QB and the third had perhaps the best team rushing attack since at least the ‘70’s Dolphins, who didn’t also have the rushing weapon from QB LJ is.

Plus in Dallas’s case they know Tampa has an excellent run defense so why bother when you can pitch and catch with Dak and the three big WR’s? In Tampa’s case, why bother running when you have Brady plus three big WR’s of his own and Dallas’s secondary is space junk? Plus I think Jones got benched after a fumble anyway.
 
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FooteBahl

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fantasy football definitely has a skill to it, but luck is definitely involved

you have to get lucky with injuries and the waiver wire, as examples
Tell me about it…two of my running backs are D’Andre Swift who is rumored to be a murder suspect in Philly and Gus Edwards who blew out his knee in practice yesterday :(
 

NJDevs26

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RangerDoggo

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That’s the NFL now, it’s as tailored to passing as the NBA is to three point shooting and MLB is to HR’s. It’s pretty telling that in the link you posted only three teams last year had more runs than passes, one of them has Derrick Henry, another had a shot Cam at QB and the third had perhaps the best team rushing attack since at least the ‘70’s Dolphins, who didn’t also have the rushing weapon from QB LJ is.

Plus in Dallas’s case they know Tampa has an excellent run defense so why bother when you can pitch and catch with Dak and the three big WR’s? In Tampa’s case, why bother running when you have Brady plus three big WR’s of his own and Dallas’s secondary is space junk? Plus I think Jones got benched after a fumble anyway.
I wouldn’t be opposed to this if the follow wasn’t also true about NFL football:

  1. So protective of the QB that you can hardly hit one legally anymore (thanks, injuries to Brady and Rodgers!)
  2. You can barely make legal coverage on a receiver anymore (a defensive hold is just a slight tug on the jersey, which is far more lax than an offensive hold)
  3. Penalties every three plays, most of which result in automatic first downs (good solution: stop making illegal contact and defensive holds auto 1sts)
You mention the NBA and 3 pointers. It works there because they didn’t have to innovate the rule book every single offseason. It feels natural. The NFL feels clunky, slow, and boring.
 
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njdevils1982

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That’s the NFL now, it’s as tailored to passing as the NBA is to three point shooting and MLB is to HR’s. It’s pretty telling that in the link you posted only three teams last year had more runs than passes, one of them has Derrick Henry, another had a shot Cam at QB and the third had perhaps the best team rushing attack since at least the ‘70’s Dolphins, who didn’t also have the rushing weapon from QB LJ is.

Plus in Dallas’s case they know Tampa has an excellent run defense so why bother when you can pitch and catch with Dak and the three big WR’s? In Tampa’s case, why bother running when you have Brady plus three big WR’s of his own and Dallas’s secondary is space junk? Plus I think Jones got benched after a fumble anyway.

whatever happened to pounding the ball on the ground and wearing out the opposition's defence with an 8 minute time munching drive
 

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