2022 NFL and NCAA Football offseason

Buck Dancer

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My boys were convinced he was going to the Falcons because of his home town thing (basically an NFL pajama boy). I figured this was all a big charade to squeeze more out of whoever landed him. His agent probably spent days and days having to deal with the fallout of Watson's scandal and almost certainly got paid NOTHING for all that time. This was his chance to cash in on his investment in Watson. I am skeptical Watson wins anything in Cleveland and he passed on his pajamas team and a ready to win team in New Orleans so he obviously just wanted money.
Watson is a stud, there's no question about it but the Saints probably dodged a bullet here.

We get to keep 3X1st round picks +++, we don't get a QB that will be suspended for 4, 5 and possibly 6 games and we didn't break the bank to hand him a GUARANTEED 230M$ deal.

Loomis will probably ink Jameis Winston, hopefully resign Armstead, get a heatlhy Michael Thomas and use the 29.9M$ of cap space we opened up by restructuring the contracts of 4 players this week.
 
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Watson is a stud, there's no question about it but the Saints probably dodged a bullet here.

We get to keep 3X1st round picks +++, we don't get a QB that will be suspended for 4, 5 and possibly 6 games and we didn't break the bank to hand him a GUARANTEED 230M$ deal.

Loomis will probably ink Jameis Winston, hopefully resign Armstead, get a heatlhy Michael Thomas and use the 29.9M$ of cap space we opened up by restructuring the contracts of 4 players this week.
My guess is that Armstead will leave. I expect the Saints to swap Ramczyck over to LT. The Saints really have to clean up their cap. They are still going to have dead money for Brees and now they will have some significant dead money for Armstead.
 

Buck Dancer

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My guess is that Armstead will leave. I expect the Saints to swap Ramczyck over to LT. The Saints really have to clean up their cap. They are still going to have dead money for Brees and now they will have some significant dead money for Armstead.
Loomis keeps on restructuring deals, which will eventually screw us down the line.

The good thing is that our division is fairly weak and we play great against TB12, so with a healthy Michael Thomas, we might have a shot.
 

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Loomis keeps on restructuring deals, which will eventually screw us down the line.

The good thing is that our division is fairly weak and we play great against TB12, so with a healthy Michael Thomas, we might have a shot.
Let's see who they get for QB. I thought that Winston was fine before the injury but at this point it's anyone's guess how that plays out. The Saints have a two year window before they basically have to rebuild. Davis and Jordan are very long in the tooth and once they go the defense will falter. At that point I'm trading anything not nailed down.
 

NJDevs26

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And Hill picks the Dolphins lol, Jets already have a loss in 2022 and we’re months before the season.
 

Jersey Fresh

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The Jets aren't in a position to make that Hill deal for me, think they dodged a bullet. Yeah, that's an easy upgrade for Wilson, but that team needs so much just keep the picks and do your damn job by drafting actual contributors.
 

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As a Bills fan I'm pretty happy with the Hill trade, our path to the SB just got easier. The whole X Factor of the Chiefs offense was Mahomes scrambling -> deep threat to Hill while Kelce bullies his way over the middle. KC's offense got a lot more one-dimensional and downgrades from special to just really good. And in the current AFC I don't know if just really good is enough. Maybe they still end up getting Metcalf.

Miami made some nice moves. Armstead is nice but the dude can't stay healthy, and even with him their interior and right side is still really bad. And Tua still can't throw. This trade reads as a "no more excuses" move where they feel like they'll be justified moving on from Tua when this doesn't work. They'll still be a good team (better than the Patriots lol). But they're still clearly worse than the Bills and the AFC wildcard race is going to be an absolute clusterf***.

Or maybe this is some sort of genius 4D chess move, trying to build a baller 51-man roster like Tampa Bay and Denver did and then go out big game hunting for an external QB. Maybe Tua is just their filler, and then next year they make a big splash for Lamar or Kyler. Who knows, maybe even TB12 wants to move on from Tampa but stay in South Florida.

I get why the Jets are interested but they're not even close to ready for this kind of move. They shouldn't be wasting picks trading for a player that will be there for 2-3 years. They need to make those selections and build a team.

Also Tyreek Hill may be a special football player but he's also a shitbag human, a domestic abuser who plead guilty to strangling his pregnant girlfriend. He can go f*** himself.
 
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Buck Dancer

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As a Bills fan I'm pretty happy with the Hill trade, our path to the SB just got easier. The whole X Factor of the Chiefs offense was Mahomes scrambling -> deep threat to Hill while Kelce bullies his way over the middle. KC's offense got a lot more one-dimensional and downgrades from special to just really good. And in the current AFC I don't know if just really good is enough. Maybe they still end up getting Metcalf.

Miami made some nice moves. Armstead is nice but the dude can't stay healthy, and even with him their interior and right side is still really bad. And Tua still can't throw. This trade reads as a "no more excuses" move where they feel like they'll be justified moving on from Tua when this doesn't work. They'll still be a good team (better than the Patriots lol). But they're still clearly worse than the Bills and the AFC wildcard race is going to be an absolute clusterf***.

Or maybe this is some sort of genius 4D chess move, trying to build a baller 51-man roster like Tampa Bay and Denver did and then go out big game hunting for an external QB. Maybe Tua is just their filler, and then next year they make a big splash for Lamar or Kyler. Who knows, maybe even TB12 wants to move on from Tampa but stay in South Florida.

I get why the Jets are interested but they're not even close to ready for this kind of move. They shouldn't be wasting picks trading for a player that will be there for 2-3 years. They need to make those selections and build a team.

Also Tyreek Hill may be a special football player but he's also a shitbag human, a domestic abuser who plead guilty to strangling his pregnant girlfriend. He can go f*** himself.
The Dolphins are buying a Ferrari but they have nobody to drive it. Tua has as good an arm as I do and that's not saying much, so I don't know how the best deep ball receiver will maximize his value if he has to run 20 yard routes 99% of the time. It'll be a boat load of bubble screens, quick slants and I wouldn't be surprised to see Tua hand off the ball to Hill in a similar fashion that saw Deebo Samuel cause all kinds of fits to opposing defences.

If I was the Chiefs, I'd be calling Seattle for Metcalf because there's no way a pending UFA is excited about being part of a rebuild in his final year and we can all say with certainty that he's as good as gone next year. On the flip side, the Chiefs are loaded with draft capital but with the acquisition of Juju and Valdes-Scantling, unfortunatly for them, I don't see it happening.

Personnaly, I would've given up a couple of picks for Metcalf instead of signing MVS but that's just me.










 

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Also Tyreek Hill may be a special football player but he's also a shitbag human, a domestic abuser who plead guilty to strangling his pregnant girlfriend. He can go f*** himself.
Oh yeah that's very true. Not excusing that but at this point I don't know where the scumbag person ends and the CTE begins. For someone like Antonio Brown I thought, "CTE has nothing to do with it, he's just a whiny asshole." But after watching a video about the NFL's scandals (one of two!), maybe not.
 

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Not sure why Raghib Ismail popped up in my internet rabbit hole, but it reminded me of some of the strange things that happened that happened at the top of the NFL Draft in the 80s/early 90s.

1984: The upstart USFL plucks a bunch of the top talent expected for that draft--Reggie White, Steve Young, Mike Rozier.

1985: Minnesota trades up to the #2 pick expecting to select Bernie Kosar. Cleveland then tells Kosar to not officially declare and wait for the supplemental draft. Cleveland then arranges a trade with Buffalo (who would take Bruce Smith with #1) to take Kosar for them with the top pick of the supplemental draft.

1986: Bo Jackson goes #1 and refuses to sign with Tampa because they accidentally on purpose made him ineligible to play his final college baseball season.

1990: Cowboys should have had the #1 overall pick, but they forfeited it in the previous supplemental draft to take QB Steve Walsh. They had just drafted Troy Aikman with the #1 pick in 1989.

1991: Rocket Ismail is expected to be the #1 pick. New England can't get a contract done, so they deal the pick to the Cowboys. Dallas negotiates with Ismail who decides to sign with the Toronto Argonauts on the morning of the NFL Draft.
 

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njdevils1982

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Not sure why Raghib Ismail popped up in my internet rabbit hole, but it reminded me of some of the strange things that happened that happened at the top of the NFL Draft in the 80s/early 90s.

1984: The upstart USFL plucks a bunch of the top talent expected for that draft--Reggie White, Steve Young, Mike Rozier.

1985: Minnesota trades up to the #2 pick expecting to select Bernie Kosar. Cleveland then tells Kosar to not officially declare and wait for the supplemental draft. Cleveland then arranges a trade with Buffalo (who would take Bruce Smith with #1) to take Kosar for them with the top pick of the supplemental draft.

1986: Bo Jackson goes #1 and refuses to sign with Tampa because they accidentally on purpose made him ineligible to play his final college baseball season.

1990: Cowboys should have had the #1 overall pick, but they forfeited it in the previous supplemental draft to take QB Steve Walsh. They had just drafted Troy Aikman with the #1 pick in 1989.

1991: Rocket Ismail is expected to be the #1 pick. New England can't get a contract done, so they deal the pick to the Cowboys. Dallas negotiates with Ismail who decides to sign with the Toronto Argonauts on the morning of the NFL Draft.

a classic moment indeed. the rocket!


bonus fun is the beer can thrown at him that misses but sprays all over the turf. :laugh:

 

Jack Be Quick

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My boys were convinced he was going to the Falcons because of his home town thing (basically an NFL pajama boy). I figured this was all a big charade to squeeze more out of whoever landed him. His agent probably spent days and days having to deal with the fallout of Watson's scandal and almost certainly got paid NOTHING for all that time. This was his chance to cash in on his investment in Watson. I am skeptical Watson wins anything in Cleveland and he passed on his pajamas team and a ready to win team in New Orleans so he obviously just wanted money.
There's too much money at stake in the NFL to give a f*** about hometown loyalty.

Leaving $2mm on the table over the course of an 8 year contract to play in Toronto or NY is a vastly different scenario than $230,000,000 over 5 years with 45 up front.

Winning is secondary at that point. And as much as it hurts the fans I don't blame these guys. Although I do believe that most of these quarterbacks still try. You don't work that hard most of your life just to give up unless you're johnny football.
 
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There's too much money at stake in the NFL to give a f*** about hometown loyalty.

Leaving $2mm on the table over the course of an 8 year contract to play in Toronto or NY is a vastly different scenario than $230,000,000 over 5 years with 45 up front.

Winning is secondary at that point. And as much as it hurts the fans I don't blame these guys. Although I do believe that most of these quarterbacks still try. You don't work that hard most of your life just to give up unless you're johnny football.
Of the offers were similar I could see choosing your home team - especially coming off the allegations - but I can’t imagine the other offers were even close. Fans forget it’s a job to the athletes and they want to get paid first and win second.
 

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Love the trade we made with the Eagles yesterday. We're in a prime position to pick up one of top #3 WR's and OT's... two of our biggest needs.

If we can land Drake London/Jameson Williams and Bernhard Raimann, that would be huge for us.
 

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The celebrity and athlete death always shocks me a little when it happens. I think it’s the old… it could happen to anyone thought.
 

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