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Guffman said:
Chevy knew Trouba was not signing long-term with us but fair enough with Buff though. Issue I had is that Chevy wasn’t aggressive enough in fixing the D for a number of years.
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and ultimately when he did get aggressive it was to acquire schmidt, demelo and dillon who are essentially 5th/6th defencemen at this point. really was a pro scouting issue more than anything.
 
hockeyarena said:
and ultimately when he did get aggressive it was to acquire schmidt, demelo and dillon who are essentially 5th/6th defencemen at this point. really was a pro scouting issue more than anything.
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I think we were all excited when he did acquire these players and we figured we would be a contending team last season.

Well, as we know, that didn’t work out and Helle needs to be on top of his game to carry this underachieving lot.
 
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jetsmooseice said:
The tricky thing is that as you do better, expectations rise as well. Look at this season, back in August I think everyone would have been pretty thrilled if you told them you travelled in time and could confirm that the Jets were indeed going to be a playoff team. But suddenly that wild card spot doesn't taste as sweet when you were on top of the conference, even if only for a blink of an eye.

In some perverse way I think the fan reaction would be more positive if it was clear that the team was tanking for a couple of years in preparation for a monster run down the line. When expectations are low to begin with, no one gets that mad when you are meeting them.
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It is not an expectations thing. Since Jan 16, the Jets are the 29th ranked team in the NHL... down in the NHL ranking sewers with the likes of the Sharks and the Habs. More it is that people have watched this team be a lottery team for nearly 2 months and don't have much faith in them.
 
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JetsFan815 said:
It is not an expectations thing. Since Jan 16, the Jets are the 29th ranked team in the NHL... down in the NHL ranking sewers with the likes of the Sharks and the Habs. More it is that people have watched this team be a lottery team for nearly 2 months and don't have much faith in them.
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This is about the first season since the return of 2.0 that I’ve pretty much lost all interest.

if somehow by miracle the team does make it to the PO’s they’re out in 4-5 games in the 1st round anyway! Too many guys on the team with zero compete and whole bunch that would have trouble scoring on an empty net 2 meters out!
 
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Guffman said:
Chevy knew Trouba was not signing long-term with us but fair enough with Buff though. Issue I had is that Chevy wasn’t aggressive enough in fixing the D for a number of years.
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Should have traded Trouba before the whole NY only thing ever got started. Though I do understand keeping him from the POV of winning more games sooner.
 
Most jets fans and prognosticators had the Jets as a bubble team at the beginning of the season - either squeaking in to the playoffs and just missing out. That is exactly where the team appears to be ending up. I wouldn't say jets fans would be thrilled with where the team is in the standings at this point given those predictions...more in line with what was expected.
 
They hold their future in their hands. If they win we make the playoffs and who knows what happens then. If they don't well you have to tear it down and rebuild it.

I don't think you trade Trouba after the season we had. They held on to him because we were coming back with almost the same team intact. That season saw Buff go down for a long time and Laine had a poor 2nd season. Trouba had his best season that year as well and likely will never have one like that again. We may have traded him for what his max value would have been anyways
 
I think that people's attitudes towards the season as a whole would be different if the two halves reversed - ie we played like dogshit in the first half and lights out in the second to claw our way into a WC spot.

BTW, that's totally understandable based on trajectories, etc... but at the end of the day, it's the same result. We're battling for a play-off spot down the stretch
 
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sipowicz said:
This is about the first season since the return of 2.0 that I’ve pretty much lost all interest.

if somehow by miracle the team does make it to the PO’s they’re out in 4-5 games in the 1st round anyway! Too many guys on the team with zero compete and whole bunch that would have trouble scoring on an empty net 2 meters out!
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Yep.. I'm in same mode. Since January I slowly went from watching full games, to half a game, to 1st period only, now I only look at the lowlights on TSN day after games.
 
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Buffdog said:
I think that people's attitudes towards the season as a whole would be different if the two halves reversed - ie we played like dogshit in the first half and lights out in the second to claw our way into a WC spot.

BTW, that's totally understandable based on trajectories, etc... but at the end of the day, it's the same result. We're battling for a play-off spot down the stretch
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If it happened that way, 1/2 this board would be spitting mad we blew the tank for Bedard, not happy we are fighting for a playoff spot.
 
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Buffdog said:
I think that people's attitudes towards the season as a whole would be different if the two halves reversed - ie we played like dogshit in the first half and lights out in the second to claw our way into a WC spot.

BTW, that's totally understandable based on trajectories, etc... but at the end of the day, it's the same result. We're battling for a play-off spot down the stretch
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Definitely.
This team was the 8th placed overall team on Dec 31st. Since then, their pts% has been in the low 20s overall. If you're a beleive in momentum, peaking at the right time etc this would be the opposite. It's resemblant to the 18-19 in that way, where the recent showings did not bode high confidence in a PO run and was more representative of this team than early on in that season.

If you contrast it to the 17-18 year. They were 2nd in pts% from Jan 1 2018 onward so they had lots of confidenceor momentum going into the PO's.
 
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Teemusalami204 said:
Seems more and more like Calgary and Nashville are going to catch us we’re gonna end up two spots out
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Feels more and more like the time to do a mini-rebuild was right after 18-19 when we lost Buff and Trouba. Instead we spun our tires for a year or two and then put together a borderline competitive team for the last couple of seasons. Pretty sad when deadline sellers are catching us at this point, but we could've been on a heavy upswing already if the last 2-3 seasons weren't basically wasted treading water.
 
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blueandgoldguy said:
Most jets fans and prognosticators had the Jets as a bubble team at the beginning of the season - either squeaking in to the playoffs and just missing out. That is exactly where the team appears to be ending up. I wouldn't say jets fans would be thrilled with where the team is in the standings at this point given those predictions...more in line with what was expected.
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It is not the same thing as a team firing on all cylinders in March/April bodes much better for their playoff chances than a team firing on all cylinders in Nov/Dec and then limping for the last few months before the end of the regular season.

I compare this season to the 14-15 season, where Jets were in a similar spot as far as their playoff lives were concerned, in a tight battle for a wildcard spot. There was palpable excitement in 14-15 that I don't feel these last couple of months. That team was playing well and charging into the playoffs whereas this bunch is barely trying to hang on with the tips of their fingers limping into the playoffs.

They are gonna make the playoffs... Calgary has shat the bed too hard and Nashville has blown up their team too much to survive the upcoming schedule but this might be the least amount of excitement I've had for a playoff run.

I am kinda checked out from the season and only catching games if convenient whereas in December/early-Jan my excitement for this season was probably on par with the 17-18 and 14-15 seasons which are the probably the pinnacle for Jets fans. Just disappointing to see what is (or should be) the last "hurrah" with this group ending up in such a manner.
 
sipowicz said:
This is about the first season since the return of 2.0 that I’ve pretty much lost all interest.

if somehow by miracle the team does make it to the PO’s they’re out in 4-5 games in the 1st round anyway! Too many guys on the team with zero compete and whole bunch that would have trouble scoring on an empty net 2 meters out!
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Sip'... just because you don't believe in them...

You need to believe in us... maybe not me... but the rest of HFJets...

They are doing their thing... they need you...

So keep showing up...

Keep being an SOB...

Keep being you...

Dumbass...

:thumbu:

SUX2BU said:
How about the leg doing the kicking again :sarcasm:
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His name is Legs'...

He needs to shave them...
 
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hockeyarena said:
and ultimately when he did get aggressive it was to acquire schmidt, demelo and dillon who are essentially 5th/6th defencemen at this point. really was a pro scouting issue more than anything.
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Yeah but prior to that we were playing 7/8 defenseman and AHL tweeners as regulars on our defense.
 
Buffdog said:
I think that people's attitudes towards the season as a whole would be different if the two halves reversed - ie we played like dogshit in the first half and lights out in the second to claw our way into a WC spot.

BTW, that's totally understandable based on trajectories, etc... but at the end of the day, it's the same result. We're battling for a play-off spot down the stretch
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We'll see after this weekend how much we are "battling for a play-off spot".

Last game looked encouraging. Despite the lack of goals, it was the best they played as a team in a while. Sooner or later the pucks have to start going in. Just hope it is not too late.
 
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