Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

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The Storm trooper Helmet is done well BUT I think the Smiling Marleau is just So Great! :heart::nod::biglaugh:
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Max Miller of the Hockey News wrote an article saying that the Sharks should offer sheet Alex Lafreniere after trading Karlsson.
Everything over 1.5 would be an extreme over payment, and there is no way that the rangers do not match anything realistic.

Max Miller of the Hockey News wrote an article saying that the Sharks should offer sheet Alex Lafreniere after trading Karlsson.
Everything over 1.5 would be an extreme over payment, and there is no way that the rangers do not match anything realistic.
 
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A team can offer sheet an RFA up to $4.2M AAV before having to transfer a 1st round pick as compensation. Here is the 2023 offer sheet compensation schedule.
I mean even a 2nd for him is kind of a lot. Yes he’s only 21 but 91 points in 216 games isn’t something you pay a 2nd for. If I’m SJ and I want Laf, I’m looking at trying to get him+Goodrow for a cheaper player.
 

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I mean even a 2nd for him is kind of a lot. Yes he’s only 21 but 91 points in 216 games isn’t something you pay a 2nd for. If I’m SJ and I want Laf, I’m looking at trying to get him+Goodrow for a cheaper player.

Yeah, I wasn’t taking a stance either way - just stating facts, breh ;) But if you want my opinion:

While I like the concept of the Laf+Goodrow, and I like Goodrow in a bottom 6 role - that contract is just too much (glad he got paid) it’s a real noose, to the point it might actually interfere with other more productive uses of the cap space.

Counter argument to your idea: what is the likelihood the Sharks would draft a player as that contributes to the level of Laf at the NHL level using a 2nd? I’m under the general impression that a bonafide 3rd line winger (where I think he is today), probable middle 6 upside, with decent top 6 potential, and the outside chance he figures it all out and peaks as a top line winger, would be an excellent outcome for a 2nd round pick.
 

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Yeah, I wasn’t taking a stance either way - just stating facts, breh ;) But if you want my opinion:

While I like the concept of the Laf+Goodrow, and I like Goodrow in a bottom 6 role - that contract is just too much (glad he got paid) it’s a real noose, to the point it might actually interfere with other more productive uses of the cap space.

Counter argument to your idea: what is the likelihood the Sharks would draft a player as that contributes to the level of Laf at the NHL level using a 2nd? I’m under the general impression that a bonafide 3rd line winger (where I think he is today), probable middle 6 upside, with decent top 6 potential, and the outside chance he figures it all out and peaks as a top line winger, would be an excellent outcome for a 2nd round pick.
I don't think the Goodrow contract would actually block anything - we're going to suck for a while anyway.

My main issue may be that Lafreniere would be close to free agency when we actually start to compete.

I do think he's worth a second, in the abstract anyway. Let's be honest - if Robins were to turn into Lafreniere this season, how many people would be very happy with that outcome? That's basically what we're talking about.
 

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Yeah, I wasn’t taking a stance either way - just stating facts, breh ;) But if you want my opinion:

While I like the concept of the Laf+Goodrow, and I like Goodrow in a bottom 6 role - that contract is just too much (glad he got paid) it’s a real noose, to the point it might actually interfere with other more productive uses of the cap space.

Counter argument to your idea: what is the likelihood the Sharks would draft a player as that contributes to the level of Laf at the NHL level using a 2nd? I’m under the general impression that a bonafide 3rd line winger (where I think he is today), probable middle 6 upside, with decent top 6 potential, and the outside chance he figures it all out and peaks as a top line winger, would be an excellent outcome for a 2nd round pick.
You’re right that I don’t think a 2nd will be better. I just would rather picks personally.

Goodrow is the exact kind of player I want my young guys to be around. I think by the time the cap space matters, the cap should go up.
 

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John Farinacci, a draft pick of Arizona is set to become a free agent in August 15th. Is he worth trading a pick a la Henry Thrun?? Has anyone watched him play? He was a third round pick.
 
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John Farinacci, a draft pick of Arizona is set to become a free agent in August 15th. Is he worth trading a pick a la Henry Thrun?? Has anyone watched him play? He was a third round pick.
Why trade for him if he is becoming a free agent in 2 weeks?
 

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Why trade for him if he is becoming a free agent in 2 weeks?
I'd be ok with throwing a lower level pick for him if management likes him - he's probably worth a 4th or lower if they don't have serious concerns, and we should be able to add some late round picks this year anyway. Yes, we could wait, but someone else could grab him, and burning a 4th or whatever for the guarantee is fine.

I do not know whether Farinacci is worth signing, though - just that, if he is (and is willing to sign), I think a pick is worth the certainty.
 

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I'd be ok with throwing a lower level pick for him if management likes him - he's probably worth a 4th or lower if they don't have serious concerns, and we should be able to add some late round picks this year anyway. Yes, we could wait, but someone else could grab him, and burning a 4th or whatever for the guarantee is fine.

I do not know whether Farinacci is worth signing, though - just that, if he is (and is willing to sign), I think a pick is worth the certainty.
That was my thinking.
 

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You’re right that I don’t think a 2nd will be better. I just would rather picks personally.

Goodrow is the exact kind of player I want my young guys to be around. I think by the time the cap space matters, the cap should go up.

FML. I don’t know how my brain farted so hard, but for whatever reason when I looked at Goodrow’s contract on CF I read the 3 at the front of his cap-hit as a 5 (so I was thinking it was $5.6 instead of $3.6, which is so divorced from reality I should have know something was off).

So, with that in mind: yeah, if there was a deal that traded a lower cap player (who on the Sharks roster would this be, Kunin?) for Laf+Goodrow I’d be for it. Also, I agree Goodrow would be a good role model for younger players. Nice creative idea!
 

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FML. I don’t know how my brain farted so hard, but for whatever reason when I looked at Goodrow’s contract on CF I read the 3 at the front of his cap-hit as a 5 (so I was thinking it was $5.6 instead of $3.6, which is so divorced from reality I should have know something was off).

So, with that in mind: yeah, if there was a deal that traded a lower cap player (who on the Sharks roster would this be, Kunin?) for Laf+Goodrow I’d be for it. Also, I agree Goodrow would be a good role model for younger players. Nice creative idea!
I can't see the Rangers giving up on Laf for that.
Goodson would be welcomed back by the fans whole heartedly
 
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Friedman said to “watch the Penguins” this weekend. That he’s been hearing murmurs again with the buyout window — not that it’s a for sure thing but, as we all figured, the likeliest time a trade might happen.
I'll be camping with no service this weekend. Definitely going to happen Saturday/Sunday...I always miss news like this
 

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You’re right that I don’t think a 2nd will be better. I just would rather picks personally.

Goodrow is the exact kind of player I want my young guys to be around. I think by the time the cap space matters, the cap should go up.
That's where Grier's inside knowledge helps. If he knows Laf has the same "stuff" he's looking for in players, then it would be smart to use the 2nd that way. With any uncertainty about him it would probably be less risky (all things considered including contracts) to keep the 2nd
 
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