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I remember being told he's a changed person and he wouldn't find drama here.
2022/23 Roster Thread XX: Heading into the Homestretch
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I remember being told he's a changed person and he wouldn't find drama here.
Magua
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Imagine if this team used Ristolainen's season to shop him, along with the other detritus.
They're not that smart. They still value him. Tortorella values him; Flahr is AGM. If they trade Provorov, Ristolainen's history of gobbling minutes makes him essential.
They're not that smart. They still value him. Tortorella values him; Flahr is AGM. If they trade Provorov, Ristolainen's history of gobbling minutes makes him essential.
Beef Invictus
Revolutionary Positivity
Is there a team better at annihilating value like the Flyers? Briere is even more of the same so far.
BiggE
SELL THE DAMN TEAM
I liked this post but only because there is no preset “dying inside” reaction
I give them no benefit of the doubt about anything. They have justly earned their scorn, derision and my utmost contempt.
Dear Flyers organization,
TCTC
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He probably said something to Tortorella he shouldn't have said. Must've been bad because Tortorella isn't the kind of guy that shies away from confrontation.
Can't imagine something happened between him and another teammate, otherwise they wouldn't even consider bringing him back.
BiggE
SELL THE DAMN TEAM
Hope he said, “shame a f***ing horse didn’t kick your father in the nuts 60 something years ago”
FlyerNutter
In the forest, a man learns what it means to live
"We have a really good scouting team."
Ch ch ch changes.
Honestly, actions are going to speak more - but he sounds like a lot of the same BS. The country club lives on. This team doesn't care about building a modern contender, maintaining the bully brand - and everyone's lifetime job is more important.
They fired Fletcher. Its where it ends.
Ch ch ch changes.
Honestly, actions are going to speak more - but he sounds like a lot of the same BS. The country club lives on. This team doesn't care about building a modern contender, maintaining the bully brand - and everyone's lifetime job is more important.
They fired Fletcher. Its where it ends.
BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
I hear you but one of the absolutes the Flyers should have from now until they start being relevant again is not to pay for transactions. I find it unlikely that DeAngelo can be moved in the offseason without either retaining or adding an asset with him. They very likely won't be gunning for a playoff spot next season so hold onto him and hope he has some value at the TDL. If they are desperate to bring up a D prospect, focus on trying to move Provorov for big value.
Gregor Samsa
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If the Flyers are serious about rebuilding and selling off assets of value, when do we have to worry about the cap floor? I would assume Couts and Atkinson are untradeable. I like the idea another poster said about being a cap dump destination so what I’m wondering is how much salary can they realistically shed over the next couple years in order to take on anchor contracts?
AndHeMissedTheNet
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calling it now: if the Flyers stay at 7 (or, god forbid, 8 or 9) and CBJ is picking at a spot that isn't 1 or 2, you're going to hear a ton of buzz about the Flyers 1st + a 3rd + Hayes or Provorov + probably a future pick or 2 for CBJ's 1st.
Flyerfan4life
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so no changes at all then.. got it Danny..
remember when not one person here could have called Briere as just another old bois club member..
sigh...
god i miss that show.. it was soooo good
deadhead
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Imagine if they were patient during a rebuild, and decided that selling low on a 4x5 contract when they're painfully thin at RHD was probably not an optimal strategy.
I mean what's the worst that happens if they bring Risto back and he regresses? They lose a couple more games? But what if his improvement is for real and he builds on it? Then you can trade an improved Risto next summer at 3x5 and get a real asset back.
Audible Velvet
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Just listened to Briere and it looks like we have a brand new
status quo.
Nearly everything out of his mouth had me thinking “bullshit”, or “f*** me, there’s no hope”
status quo.
Nearly everything out of his mouth had me thinking “bullshit”, or “f*** me, there’s no hope”
Striiker
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And what’s funny is Philly doesn’t even want him. Not big, not dumb, too skilled. Torts would absolutely hate him.
Audible Velvet
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MF’er is right on script. Is the team run by a damn bot?
BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
I don't think the Flyers are at any great risk of being cap-floor poverty cases. I tried out the Capfriendly roster builder; my only trade was Hayes ($3 million retained) for Jack Roslovic and a 3rd (I know; I'm a pessimist) and re-signed York, Frost and Cates to modest increases.
That least a tick under $8.5 million in cap space, with Ellis on LTIR. That represents $13 million over the cap floor.
FlyerNutter
In the forest, a man learns what it means to live
A pathetic display. I don't want to say it without seeing what he does, but its so much of the same old bullshit.
They are still terrified to use the world rebuild unless absolutely needed.
I dont believe for a second they will commit to selling more other than Provorov. They organization will finish 5th, and proudly beat their chest they weren't last.
deadhead
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You don't trash people you might need for another year, even if you're planning to move them out when someone better becomes available.
Fans want Briere to be blunt and honest, when Torts does it: "oh those snowflake players!"
I'm sure there will be a lot of changes in FO personnel the next two years, but people you want are often under contract and sometimes you have to wait or settle for second best.
At the earliest, most potential additions won't come available until July.
And going in the draft and potential trades, slamming your scouts is probably not an optimal strategy.
Fans want Briere to be blunt and honest, when Torts does it: "oh those snowflake players!"
I'm sure there will be a lot of changes in FO personnel the next two years, but people you want are often under contract and sometimes you have to wait or settle for second best.
At the earliest, most potential additions won't come available until July.
And going in the draft and potential trades, slamming your scouts is probably not an optimal strategy.
FlyerNutter
In the forest, a man learns what it means to live
Fans want this f***ing shithole organization to have some accountability, and standard in the front office - or other departments.
Not just the players on the ice.
Gregor Samsa
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At this point only time will tell if they are going to rebuild. No sense in getting worked up either way. I don’t see how the Flyers can avoid it at this point. They finished in the bottom 10 two years in a row while “contending”. It’s not like a rebuild would make them that much worse standings-wise. Sell off any asset of value. Keep Couts as a face of the franchise and jersey sales if you like. It will honestly be less painful for fans to have their team be bad while trying to be bad than being bad while trying to be good. The focus and storyline should be on the future. There isn’t even that much to knock down anyway. The Flyers have given us little reason to be optimistic in the last 10 years but the 2 big changes in the front office and ownership is a good sign. I’m of the opinion that it is always better to err on the side of hope and optimism. Worst case scenario is the Flyers disappoint. We are used to that by now. If their actions don’t line up with what they should be doing then boycott them. Ownership will listen if the stadium is empty and tv numbers are poor
Audible Velvet
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I was waiting for, “accountability, (hic) accountability, (twitch) accountability, (hic) accountability, (smoke from head), my processor is glitching, must reboot!”
Aides rush in and curtains are drawn.
There are no longer any thoughts coming forth, only slogans and the same empty drivel repeated by a hundred mouths in front of brainless gear skipping heads.
We’re so screwed.
Aides rush in and curtains are drawn.
There are no longer any thoughts coming forth, only slogans and the same empty drivel repeated by a hundred mouths in front of brainless gear skipping heads.
We’re so screwed.
Audible Velvet
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And furthermore, no one could convince me that everything these people say isn’t just a roundabout way of patting themselves on the back. The fact that none of it is true doesn’t stop them.
Look at what we’ve accomplished with this collection of lazy, stupid and untalented players that the last guy stuck us with. We said we’d be harder to play against, and we were. We said we’d build a culture, and we are. We will have them play the right way, but first we have to let our coach fix all of those glaring character flaws.
Look at what we’ve accomplished with this collection of lazy, stupid and untalented players that the last guy stuck us with. We said we’d be harder to play against, and we were. We said we’d build a culture, and we are. We will have them play the right way, but first we have to let our coach fix all of those glaring character flaws.
freakydallas13
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Why the f*** does it matter how thin they are at RHD while they are rebuilding?
Beef Invictus
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The idea that Risto is ready to munch those minutes might be the only reason they think they can trade Provorov now. He can assume that role. Roles R Lyfe
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