2022/23 Roster Thread XVIII: The bats have left the bell tower

[DancingPanther]

Trade them all for futures. Seeler, TK, Hart, Ersson, The Guy Who Stands Up For What He Believes In, Hayes at full retention, JVR, Frost, Sanheim. Literally sell everyone off. But don't let Tuck Leper do it. Let me do it

You all should be very happy I'm not GM

 

[TheKingPin]

I could see Laughton to the Canes. I’m not big on “Loading up”, but they could be seen as lacking vs some of the East teams. Maybe they overpay.

 

[BiggE]

I could see Laughton to the Canes. I’m not big on “Loading up”, but they could be seen as lacking vs some of the East teams. Maybe they overpay.

No one overpays in deals involving Cuck, except Cuck.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

On the pod he essentially said he thought it was bullshit when coaches would do this back when he played. He didn’t go on a “soft generation” type of rant.

He said he never really saw the upside of doing this. He said you’re essentially crossing into that personal realm & not motivational anymore. He said coaches can play dumb after the fact like Tortorella did but they know what they did going into it. He said they know these guys hometowns. He said he just sees these type of moves as all downside because you can really run the risk of pissing off the entire locker room to the point they give up on you.

 

[FLYguy3911]

He did it to Frost earlier in the year too. 100% d-bag.

 

[Striiker]

On the pod he essentially said he thought it was bullshit when coaches would do this back when he played. He didn’t go on a “soft generation” type of rant.

He said he never really saw the upside of doing this. He said you’re essentially crossing into that personal realm & not motivational anymore. He said coaches can play dumb after the fact like Tortorella did but they know what they did going into it. He said they know these guys hometowns. He said he just sees these type of moves as all downside because you can really run the risk of pissing off the entire locker room to the point they give up on you.

Imagine being such a dickhead that Chris dipshit Therien is on the correct side of the issue against you.

 

[VladDrag]

He did it to Frost earlier in the year too. 100% d-bag.

I am fairly certain that He’s also done this in his previous coach ventures too.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Imagine being such a dickhead that Chris dipshit Therien is on the correct side of the issue against you.

He started it off with “I have to watch what I say here”. My mind automatically went to here comes a millennial rant but to my surprise he went the other way. I think he was being careful though in that he didn’t want to portray it like he knows something that’s happening currently with this case, just in his personal experience it could very well go in that direction.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Friedman & ASF both corroborated Seravalli’s report that Farabee’s camp is unhappy with the way things are currently going.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Lycksell is toast.

 

[Striiker]

He started it off with “I have to watch what I say here”. My mind automatically went to here comes a millennial rant but to my surprise he went the other way. I think he was being careful though in that he didn’t want to portray it like he knows something that’s happening currently with this case, just in his personal experience it could very well go in that direction.

Yeah, that’s what I would have expected too.

Guess a blind clock finds the nut twice a day after all.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Listening to today’s 32 Thoughts. Friedman’s take on the situation is more damming than the others.

He said he would have figured the organizational plan for Farabee would be to just write this season off given the injury/surgery circumstances. Finish the year as best as you can & start next year fresh.

He said the people he’s talked in Philadelphia said “that’s not happening”. He then went on to say Tortorella is the face of the franchise & isn’t going anywhere anytime soon so he does have stroke in that regard. So he essentially implied Tortorella isn’t gonna let up here.

He said he thinks the concern on Farabee’s camp end is that they feel this is Tortorella’s MO & he’s unlikely to change so they aren’t really crazy about the possibility of going through multiple years of this.

Friedman ended it saying things could always change but that’s his read on it right now. He said the organization is hoping they can repair the relationship between Tortorella & Farabee so they’re not at the point where the organization wants to cut ties.

He did say Tortorella & Lecavalier repaired a poor relationship back in the day before they went on to win the Cup. But he did add the caveat that it was a long time ago & not a lot of today’s young players would be receptive to what was demanded like Lacavalier had to back then.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Imagine giving Torts the keys to a franchise in 2023.

 

[Beef Invictus]

All the "but he's a good person outside of the press" people were wrong. He's just shit through and through. The good he does is probably a cynical PR move.

The horse could sense it.

 

[TheKingPin]

Clown show.

Torts is another extension of this never ending bullshit. This shit is not that hard.

 

[Striiker]

A normal person with a brain will think “Wow, Torts is an asshole!”.

The average Flyers fan will think “Wow, Torts is finally holding guys accountable. Love this guy!”.

 

[chadateit]

Listening to today’s 32 Thoughts. Friedman’s take on the situation is more damming than the others.

He said he would have figured the organizational plan for Farabee would be to just write this season off given the injury/surgery circumstances. Finish the year as best as you can & start next year fresh.

He said the people he’s talked in Philadelphia said “that’s not happening”. He then went on to say Tortorella is the face of the franchise & isn’t going anywhere anytime soon so he does have stroke in that regard. So he essentially implied Tortorella isn’t gonna let up here.

He said he thinks the concern on Farabee’s camp end is that they feel this is Tortorella’s MO & he’s unlikely to change so they aren’t really crazy about the possibility of going through multiple years of this.

Friedman ended it saying things could always change but that’s his read on it right now. He said the organization is hoping they can repair the relationship between Tortorella & Farabee so they’re not at the point where the organization wants to cut ties.

He did say Tortorella & Lecavalier repaired a poor relationship back in the day before they went on to win the Cup. But he did add the caveat that it was a long time ago & not a lot of today’s young players would be receptive to what was demanded like Lacavalier had to back then.

Charlie O has an article in the Athletic today with quotes from Farabee directly saying he wants to be in Philly and part of the solution. More quotes from Tortorella saying he likes Farabee and sees him as part of the solution, and that he thinks not training this offseason is a big part of his struggles.

Of course Torts goes on to talk shit about Farabee's agent, blaming him for this "nonstory"

At least publicly, Tortorella and Farabee are strongly saying there's no desire to move him from either side. I wish we had a GM with a bias for action and communication.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Player's aren't going to publicly come out and say they want out to the media.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Charlie O has an article in the Athletic today with quotes from Farabee directly saying he wants to be in Philly and part of the solution. More quotes from Tortorella saying he likes Farabee and sees him as part of the solution, and that he thinks not training this offseason is a big part of his struggles.

Of course Torts goes on to talk shit about Farabee's agent, blaming him for this "nonstory"

At least publicly, Tortorella and Farabee are strongly saying there's no desire to move him from either side. I wish we had a GM with a bias for action and communication.

ASF touched on this in his podcast. He said Farabee did the right thing by saying the right things there but said there’s certainly a riff behind the scenes.

 

[Magua]

Tortorella is the face of the franchise

 

[FLYguy3911]

Imagine a Torts + Tulsky combo.

 

[DancingPanther]

Imagine your team being so bad and hopeless that you have to claim the coach is the face of the franchise. This Is the lens that Fletcher and company view the team through. The head coach is the face of the franchise, not a player

There will be unprecedented turnover in all facets of the organization if I was GM I swear to God

 

[FLYguy3911]

There's a reason they don't have a captain. He wants the attention. He's Babcock.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Listening to today’s 32 Thoughts. Friedman’s take on the situation is more damming than the others.

He said he would have figured the organizational plan for Farabee would be to just write this season off given the injury/surgery circumstances. Finish the year as best as you can & start next year fresh.

He said the people he’s talked in Philadelphia said “that’s not happening”. He then went on to say Tortorella is the face of the franchise & isn’t going anywhere anytime soon so he does have stroke in that regard. So he essentially implied Tortorella isn’t gonna let up here.

He said he thinks the concern on Farabee’s camp end is that they feel this is Tortorella’s MO & he’s unlikely to change so they aren’t really crazy about the possibility of going through multiple years of this.

Friedman ended it saying things could always change but that’s his read on it right now. He said the organization is hoping they can repair the relationship between Tortorella & Farabee so they’re not at the point where the organization wants to cut ties.

He did say Tortorella & Lecavalier repaired a poor relationship back in the day before they went on to win the Cup. But he did add the caveat that it was a long time ago & not a lot of today’s young players would be receptive to what was demanded like Lacavalier had to back then.

This is the most disheartening thing I have read about the Flyers.

Every single thing the Flyers have done for years has been the wrong thing. This is like flipping heads 1000 times in a row. Can we get a tails just one time, please?

 

[chadateit]

Imagine your team being so bad and hopeless that you have to claim the coach is the face of the franchise. This Is the lens that Fletcher and company view the team through. The head coach is the face of the franchise, not a player

There will be unprecedented turnover in all facets of the organization if I was GM I swear to God

That's actually a pretty interesting thought. I've been following the NHL for 40+ years. I don't remember a single instance of an NHL organization attempting to make the coach the face of any team in the league - ever. Even with various awful teams with zero talent. Can anyone think of an example of this before Torts and the flyers right now?