2022/23 Roster Thread XVIII: The bats have left the bell tower

[Ghosts Beer]

I am very curious as to whom the Flyers are offering for Meier.

 

[Curufinwe]

Next year Hayes and JVR will be replaced by Couts and Atkinson

If Hayes is still on the team next season, you should do the honorable thing and retire from Flyers HFB. Pick another team/sport to be endlessly wrong about.

 

[DancingPanther]

It's Pennsylvania in the middle of winter. With the amount of static around, all players have potential.

Fizziks

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Even for rebuilding, having players in their mid to late 20s is a good thing, b/c Laughton at 29 with 3 years left on his deal has real trade value, because the cap hit is manageable and you'd get him from 29-31.

Same with Provorov this summer if they want to trade him, two years left at age 27-28 is a valuable asset.

The problem with this team isn't that they're loaded with over 30 veterans, it's that they lack the 2-3 top players who'd push everyone else down to roles where they're better suited.

The problem with this answer is that most players' peaks don't end at 30. Well, that and the idea that someone having trade value is only relevant if they're willing to trade him. In theory, all of this is fine. In practice, what have they done in the last 4 years that makes you think they understand this kind of long-term, layered maneuvering? They wouldn't even trade Laughton for 2 months and then re-sign him.

And of course we have the problem of there not being any likely top players in the system. And no reasonable road to acquiring them.

 

[ponder719]

My apologies if this has been posted somewhere already

I am afraid of what the offer would be. How f***ed are things that I'm afraid of what would happen if the Flyers acquire a great player?

 

[pooch]

Why on earth would we be looking to trade for Meier at this juncture?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Trade premium assets for a player instead of signing the hometown kid at a likely discount.

God bless the Flyers.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Why on earth would we be looking to trade for Meier at this juncture?

They don’t want to rebuild.

 

[deadhead]

He's too old for a rebuild (27 next year, if this was 2025 . . .), and he's a wing, we need a center or a RHD, we have plenty of wings.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Trade premium assets for a player instead of signing the hometown kid at a likely discount.

God bless the Flyers.

They Holmgren’d themselves last offseason. They spent too much cap space/assets to that point they couldn’t do it anymore. It wasn’t some epiphany.

 

[Beef Invictus]

My apologies if this has been posted somewhere already

I fully believe these people are so stupid that they'd buy.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I like Meier a lot but now is not the time to trade for him. But Chuck plays by his own stupid rules so who the hell knows.

 

[BiggE]

Lycksell should be taking a regular shift in the top 9 every game, as should Foerster. Attard should be getting a look on D and Ersson and Hart should be alternating starts in goal. Plus, at some point in the season, Desnoyers and Brink should get some games in as well. I didnt bother to mention Zamula because he’ll probably bolt for the KHL tjis summer rather than spend another year wasting his time with this clown show franchise.

All of the following should happen as well, but don’t hold your breath:
Cuck should be fired asap
JVR should be traded between now and the deadline.
If anyone is willing to part with a 1st for Laughton, trade him
DeAngelis should be traded asap
If a likely playoff team that badly needs an upgrade in goal, like perhaps LA, is willing to overpay for Hart, trade him. You can roll with Ersson and a vet free agent in 23-24.
Provorov should be shopped at the draft and Hayes needs to go to anyone who will take him.

Better than any of this though would be for Shitcast to sell the team to someone that actually gives a f*** about the on ice product, but don’t hold your breath.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They half admit there’s a problem & things need to be changed but they still keep around the people causing the problems.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

They half admit there’s a problem & things need to be changed but they still keep around the people causing the problems.

I'm happy about this, as I was convinced they were going to elevate Camillo.

Well, happy is probably not the right word. He may be terrible himself.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

If you're about to write a post explaining what this means for their overarching approach, please stop yourself unless you somehow know the guy personally. None of us have any idea.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

If you're about to write a post explaining what this means for their overarching approach, please stop yourself unless you somehow know the guy personally. None of us have any idea.

It'll be prefaced with "I think" so it's ok.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

If it means he'll clean house, then I'm all f***ing for it. f*** Chuck and co and f*** Dave Scott.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

It'll be prefaced with "I think" so it's ok.

I think I’m going to remain pessimistic.

It’s served me well and I have yet to be disappointed.

 

[deadhead]

If it means Scott is being pushed aside, how could it make things worse?

Hilferty comes to Comcast Spectacor after leading Philadelphia’s successful bid to be a host city for the FIFA World Cup 2026™ and continues to serve as Chair of the Board of Directors of Philadelphia Soccer 2026. A highly distinguished CEO with deep roots in Philadelphia, Hilferty was previously at the helm of Independence Blue Cross – one of the nation’s leading health insurers – as its President and Chief Executive Officer for 10 years. He has also held many other leadership positions throughout his career, including serving as President and CEO of AmeriHealth Caritas Family of Companies and as Senior Vice President of Government Affairs at Mercy Health Corporation, all Philadelphia headquartered companies.


This sounds almost like a labor of love, b/c he's already been at the top, and there is no chance of rising to the top at Comcast.
So it sounds like "I've made my money" move, maybe he really is a fanatical Flyers fan who wants to turn the team around?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The Flyers don’t outright fire anybody unless they hurt the elder statesmen in their organization feelings.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Could be a "be careful what you wish for."

Glad it's not Camillo, but it *is* Comcast who made the hire. I have trepidation.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Could be a "be careful what you wish for."

Glad it's not Camillo, but it *is* Comcast who made the hire. I have trepidation.

You would have to think that since Comcast made the change, that person then can make changes below them to suit the needs of himself and the company.

 

[deadhead]

Hilferty was in a venture four years ago with Brian Roberts, and took over the soccer gig from David Cohen, former ex-VP of Comcast.
So he's probably wired in at a higher level than Scott with Comcast senior executives.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

You would have to think that since Comcast made the change, that person then can make changes below them to suit the needs of himself and the company.

He'll have the authority. What he decides to do and when, who knows. In the Flyers case, I assume he'll make an assessment after the season.