2022/23 Roster Thread XVII: The Days are Getting Longer

[Curufinwe]

Brown may be bad, but he's the best player on the 4th line.

With ZMac out for weeks, they're going to have to try someone else at 4RW.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Brown may be bad, but he's the best player on the 4th line.

With ZMac out for weeks, they're going to have to try someone else at 4RW.

And somehow that shit will be pointed to as a great move by Fletcher/Torts when in reality we all know, once again, that youth only plays out of necessity and not out of any plan.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Brown may be bad, but he's the best player on the 4th line.

With ZMac out for weeks, they're going to have to try someone else at 4RW.

That's what Bellows is for. He's bad at scoring so therefore he must be secretly great at defense and perfect for the 4th line.

 

[BernieParent]

@deadhead I have a question.

It is February. For months, you assured me that, by now, we'd be entering Month Two of the Revolving Door where we'd see a nonstop stream of prospects getting NHL experience on the third pair and bottom six. I told you that was not going to happen because the people who manage the team do no want it to happen. You in turn said that it is sure to happen because Tortorella will be in charge of the whole team and Fletcher will only exist to obey his commands.

None of that happened. Instead, we have no revolving door because, as I said, management has no interest in playing youth and thinks doing so is a problem.

So. Would you like to admit you were wrong?

The door has a lower hinge injury and is listed as door-to-door. If it were the playoffs, Tortorella is certain the door would be ajar.

 

[BiggE]

For me it's now a 5 way tie between Hayes, the Racist, the Homophobe, MacDonald, and harkening back to my younger days...Jody f***ing Hull

No one is worse than Billy Tibbets, ainec.

Next up, is a coin toss between Marc Bureau and Ulf Samuelsson. Honestly, I don’t care enough about the current roster to hate any of them as much as the three I named. My current hate is reserved for Dave Scott, Cuck and his senile inner sanctum

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

No thanks, i'll take the stairs.

 

[BernieParent]

No thanks, i'll take the stairs.

You push the button, you see Hayes's defensive play.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

No thanks, i'll take the stairs.

Didn't M Night produce a movie about this?

 

[deadhead]

@deadhead I have a question.

It is February. For months, you assured me that, by now, we'd be entering Month Two of the Revolving Door where we'd see a nonstop stream of prospects getting NHL experience on the third pair and bottom six. I told you that was not going to happen because the people who manage the team do no want it to happen. You in turn said that it is sure to happen because Tortorella will be in charge of the whole team and Fletcher will only exist to obey his commands.

None of that happened. Instead, we have no revolving door because, as I said, management has no interest in playing youth and thinks doing so is a problem.

So. Would you like to admit you were wrong?

No, I didn't say that. You're known for putting words in people's mouths to score points in some stupid ego gratification game.

I said going off CBJ (and even before) Torts will work in 3-4 young players as starters, then toward the end of the season give some prospects cameos to gauge their readiness for the next season. Rinse and repeat.

Torts has never filled the lineup with prospects who aren't ready to play, that isn't his MO.
Of course, there are always spots that open up due to injury.

So far he's elevated TK's role, and started Frost, Cates, Allison, York once the team settled in and the lines were set.
Farabee also starts, but he is in the same role (limited by his lost offseason and need to add strength after neck surgery).

Come March, after the TDL, I expect some players to get looks, but if the Phantoms make the AHL playoffs, this may be limited b/c they'd may prefer prospects play 20 minutes a night in the AHL playoffs than on the 4th line in the NHL.

What I've seen of the prospects in the AHL, none are NHL ready right now, Lycksell, Foerster and Desnoyers the closest, but Lycksell goes MIA too often and Foerster has just recently raised his game. Desnoyers needs to get stronger. Brink has a month of conditioning ahead of him after hip surgery (look how long Lacyznski took to get back to 100%). Zamula has regressed, Attard is still struggling with fundamentals though he flashes on offense, Ginning might be the most NHL ready (albeit with a 3rd pair ceiling).
Hogberg and Wylie seem to have AHL+ ceilings.

 

[wasup]

I find it criminal that Allison plays so little overall per game. Dude is a gamer and if given the right time and players, he could do quite a lot.

His pts/60 5vs5 is good as well but what the F$%k do we know . God Emp... Torts knows all I'm told .

 

[Beef Invictus]

No, I didn't say that. You're known for putting words in people's mouths to score points in some stupid ego gratification game.

I said going off CBJ (and even before) Torts will work in 3-4 young players as starters, then toward the end of the season give some prospects cameos to gauge their readiness for the next season. Rinse and repeat.

Torts has never filled the lineup with prospects who aren't ready to play, that isn't his MO.
Of course, there are always spots that open up due to injury.

So far he's elevated TK's role, and started Frost, Cates, Allison, York once the team settled in and the lines were set.
Farabee also starts, but he is in the same role (limited by his lost offseason and need to add strength after neck surgery).

Come March, after the TDL, I expect some players to get looks, but if the Phantoms make the AHL playoffs, this may be limited b/c they'd may prefer prospects play 20 minutes a night in the AHL playoffs than on the 4th line in the NHL.

What I've seen of the prospects in the AHL, none are NHL ready right now, Lycksell, Foerster and Desnoyers the closest, but Lycksell goes MIA too often and Foerster has just recently raised his game. Desnoyers needs to get stronger. Brink has a month of conditioning ahead of him after hip surgery (look how long Lacyznski took to get back to 100%). Zamula has regressed, Attard is still struggling with fundamentals though he flashes on offense, Ginning might be the most NHL ready (albeit with a 3rd pair ceiling).
Hogberg and Wylie seem to have AHL+ ceilings.

Ah, no. You were not talking about the end of the season. You said you expected it to start in December, after the he and the team were settled in with each other.

Your expected lineups were all filled with youth. Not year-end rosters; what you expected to be happening mid-season and even at the start of the season.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

No thanks, i'll take the stairs.

the Hayes elevator cable snaps and you fall down to the level of the Flyers Org.

 

[Hextallent63]

Brown is so bad they couldn't possibly play youth with him, but that's not blocking youth somehow.

But for real don't be surprised if these idiots are buyers. They've been six or seven points out of the WC spot for weeks, haven't made up any ground, and haven't moved in the standings, but they're stupid people.

this scares me. it lines up with all the crap fletcher spits out at the end of seasons. im afraid he will bring in more "torts" guys and try to push for the sake of it. like frost for brassard and a 3rd or some shit like that.

 

[DAVIDE1333]

No thanks, i'll take the stairs.

No wonder NHL viewership is down. They promote Hayes.

 

[Starat327]

the Hayes elevator cable snaps and you fall down to the level of the Flyers Org.

Rumors are people who entered the elevator Tuesday are still falling.

 

[BiggE]

According to Kevin Allen, there is a team that is very interested in Hayes. This leaves me with some questions.

1. Does Cuck have a brother who is also running an NHL team?

2. Is Cuck going to be the first GM in NHL history to make a trade with himself?

3. If a GM really wants Hayes, could he possibly be talked into taking Fisto as well?

4. Is Kevin Allen on drugs?

 

[Beef Invictus]

According to Kevin Allen, there is a team that is very interested in Hayes. This leaves me with some questions.

1. Does Cuck have a brother who is also running an NHL team?

2. Is Cuck going to be the first GM in NHL history to make a trade with himself?

3. If a GM really wants Hayes, could he possibly be talked into taking Fisto as well?

4. Is Kevin Allen on drugs?

A majority of GMs are pretty dumb and behind the times. That's how teams like Carolina laugh to the bank annually.

 

[BiggE]

A majority of GMs are pretty dumb and behind the times. That's how teams like Carolina laugh to the bank annually.

Of all the dumb GMs in all the world, we have the dumbest.

Yay team.

 

[renberg]

Does the thought of Fletcher trading Hayes scare you? After the Ghost and Risto trades. Who knows what he’d be willing to give away to make a Hayes deal go down.

 

[dragonoffrost]

I'll start....

Here we go with one saying if Ellis was hurt York, Attard and Zamula would start the year.

2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

Which means it doesn't even pass the Meat Loaf test.

 

[flyersnorth]

My daughter has a figure skating competition tomorrow at the Q Plex not far from where I live.

I've never been there so I had to look up the address.

When you see, you see it.

 

[Rich Nixon]

My daughter has a figure skating competition tomorrow at the Q Plex not far from where I live.

I've never been there so I had to look up the address.

When you see, you see it.

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And it is indeed named for THAT Randy Jones, holy shit. Hometown hero.

 

[Curufinwe]

I'll start....

Here we go with one saying if Ellis was hurt York, Attard and Zamula would start the year.

2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

Which means it doesn't even pass the Meat Loaf test.

Funny fan fiction!

York is a lock, if Ellis is out, he'll get top 4 minutes. Either way he's likely to be PP1 QB.

Attard has a good shot of making the team out of camp, if Ellis is healthy, as the 6th D-man.

Zamula/Hogberg will compete for the 6th spot if Ellis is out.

 

[deadhead]

I'll start....

Here we go with one saying if Ellis was hurt York, Attard and Zamula would start the year.

2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

Which means it doesn't even pass the Meat Loaf test.

That was July, before they even hit TC, before Torts evaluated the team, and before I evaluated Tort's history.
I was working off what we saw last spring, when the games "didn't count."
Nice try.

York looked like dog crap in TC, and Attard showed that his spring showing was a no pressure fluke, he has NHL offensive skills but ECHL defensive fundamentals - he'll be back and eventually will get a shot at the top 4, when he can be trusted on defense.

Zamula has been a disappointment, period. Hogberg I think was dinged earlier, but has been a AHL+ type the last couple seasons.

The surprise is Ginning, after years of him being trashed, he's turned out to be a solid 3rd pair prospect, playing a safe, defense first game, more like L Schenn and Gudas. Guess playing 250 SHL games does help development.

 

[kudymen]

“Yeah but what about”​