2022/23 Roster Thread XVI: Suite 16, Room for Improvement

[Flyerfan4life]

Frank had JvR on his recent top 25 trade list or whatever. He had Gostisbehere on it too, he made fun of the Flyers for trading what they did to get rid of them & now Arizona is gonna flip him for more assets.

the Flyers Org. deserve every bit of ridicule... theyve earned it

 

[Beef Invictus]

Can anyone find an article proving that Beef doesn't have the best culinary taste on this board?

I'll be waiting.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

the Flyers Org. deserve every bit of ridicule... theyve earned it

But ghost has no value, you sound stupid

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Ristolainen has 2 points in 31 games and the 2nd worst ES GF% of any Flyers dman despite being used as a #5.

His 5on5 GF% is the worst because that takes out some of the empty net GA that Provorov has been on the ice for at the end of games. Risto's 5on5 GA/60 is also the worst on the team, even though he's been sheltered from hard competition.

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

Easily the worst newly signed contract in the NHL.

2 points in his last 4 games. Out of his slump.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

But ghost has no value, you sound stupid

you forgot to say stat paddin cancer...

 

[Curufinwe]

Plus 5.5m crippled cap space for 5 years, plus whatever ghost gets at this deadline.

Incredibly costly move

Plus the draft pick they could have got for Risto at the 2022 deadline - at least a late 3rd.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

you forgot to say stat paddin cancer...

That's a very good point, excuse my ignorance good sir

Plus the draft pick they could have got for Risto at the 2022 deadline - at least a late 3rd.

I would have taken that tbh, risto is dog shit

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Yes, I know the Samson contract can slide.

 

[deadhead]

It's not a real problem - you can always throw an AHL contract into a trade to free up a slot.

 

[renberg]

I've been waiting for some of the veteran trash to be moved out of Philly. I thought that they'd have played themselves out of here by Thanksgiving...then before the Christmas break...then after the end of the year road trip to California. Nope, didn't happen.
Now Lycksell gets sent back to LHV and Brink goes there for "conditioning". The latter makes some sense. However why put Lyscksell on the toilet seat and keep Brown or MacEwan around. They are known commodities; fourth liners at best that will never improve. Lycksell can do that and might do more but he's not being given a chance. Watch Brink be glued to LHV until the last five games of the season.-Fletcher: "He couldn't get back into game shape". Fletcher must really want to make those waiver wire moves from the past look good.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

It's not a real problem - you can always throw an AHL contract into a trade to free up a slot.

Nothing is a real problem according to you and yet here we are fresh off of this franchise having the worst record in the entire league in the year 2022.

Great success. Much praise.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

It's not a real problem - you can always throw an AHL contract into a trade to free up a slot.

How you can say it isnt a problem or even try to justify it is well not sure what it is really. This GM blows.

They have no chance to get a player on waivers at this time if one was available. Actually shocked they didnt trade Isaac for futures to some team who needs AHL depth yet.

I've been waiting for some of the veteran trash to be moved out of Philly. I thought that they'd have played themselves out of here by Thanksgiving...then before the Christmas break...then after the end of the year road trip to California. Nope, didn't happen.
Now Lycksell gets sent back to LHV and Brink goes there for "conditioning". The latter makes some sense. However why put Lyscksell on the toilet seat and keep Brown or MacEwan around. They are known commodities; fourth liners at best that will never improve. Lycksell can do that and might do more but he's not being given a chance. Watch Brink be glued to LHV until the last five games of the season.-Fletcher: "He couldn't get back into game shape". Fletcher must really want to make those waiver wire moves from the past look good.

Showcasing them......clearly that is a joke. As far as Ollie if not playing him in the top 9 then he is better off on the phantoms.

 

[VladDrag]

I've been waiting for some of the veteran trash to be moved out of Philly. I thought that they'd have played themselves out of here by Thanksgiving...then before the Christmas break...then after the end of the year road trip to California. Nope, didn't happen.
Now Lycksell gets sent back to LHV and Brink goes there for "conditioning". The latter makes some sense. However why put Lyscksell on the toilet seat and keep Brown or MacEwan around. They are known commodities; fourth liners at best that will never improve. Lycksell can do that and might do more but he's not being given a chance. Watch Brink be glued to LHV until the last five games of the season.-Fletcher: "He couldn't get back into game shape". Fletcher must really want to make those waiver wire moves from the past look good.

What’s the point, as well. It’s not like they are winning with the current roster construction. There is regally no reason to not have Lycksell on the Flyers at this point. He’s been playing against men for the last five seasons. It’s time to give him his 30-50 game tryout.

I really don’t understand the argument that he can’t play on the fourth line where he will be playing 10min per night.

 

[deadhead]

I've been waiting for some of the veteran trash to be moved out of Philly. I thought that they'd have played themselves out of here by Thanksgiving...then before the Christmas break...then after the end of the year road trip to California. Nope, didn't happen.
Now Lycksell gets sent back to LHV and Brink goes there for "conditioning". The latter makes some sense. However why put Lyscksell on the toilet seat and keep Brown or MacEwan around. They are known commodities; fourth liners at best that will never improve. Lycksell can do that and might do more but he's not being given a chance. Watch Brink be glued to LHV until the last five games of the season.-Fletcher: "He couldn't get back into game shape". Fletcher must really want to make those waiver wire moves from the past look good.

Because the first three lines are set, both Lycksell (23) and Bellows (24) are better served playing big minutes in LHV than on the 4th line in Philly. Bellows actually had good metrics in Philly, just couldn't score to save his life (pressing?).

Who do you sit on the first three lines? JVR is being showcased, Hayes needs to build his value for a summer deal, same with Laughton, you gonna sit Allison? The 4th line generally plays 8 minutes a night, do you want to stick Lycksell with Brown and MacEwen?

At the TDL, JVR is a good bet to be moved, maybe Laughton, a couple others.
Hayes will probably wait for summer, same with Provorov due to cap implications.

There's no rush, if the Phantoms make the playoffs you might keep them there to play major roles in an AHL playoff than play out the string in Philly.

 

[Larry44]

What’s the point, as well. It’s not like they are winning with the current roster construction. There is regally no reason to not have Lycksell on the Flyers at this point. He’s been playing against men for the last five seasons. It’s time to give him his 30-50 game tryout.

I really don’t understand the argument that he can’t play on the fourth line where he will be playing 10min per night.

Ollie is a player with a future, the waiver garbage players aren’t.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

What’s the point, as well. It’s not like they are winning with the current roster construction. There is regally no reason to not have Lycksell on the Flyers at this point. He’s been playing against men for the last five seasons. It’s time to give him his 30-50 game tryout.

I really don’t understand the argument that he can’t play on the fourth line where he will be playing 10min per night.

one thing with this Org.

youth will rarely be given minutes if it means taking them away from old washed up vets with nothing more to give....

 

[Beef Invictus]

What’s the point, as well. It’s not like they are winning with the current roster construction. There is regally no reason to not have Lycksell on the Flyers at this point. He’s been playing against men for the last five seasons. It’s time to give him his 30-50 game tryout.

I really don’t understand the argument that he can’t play on the fourth line where he will be playing 10min per night.

It's the shitty role/fit obsessed mindset ruling the team.

Lycksell can't play top 9 minutes because he's unproven. But he can't play 4th line minutes to prove himself because it isn't his role/he can play more in the AHL.

Idiotic feedback loop. If Joseph Heller were still alive he could write a sequel based solely on the Flyers.

 

[Cody Webster]

Funny how a team that is one of the top 5 worst in the league has 3 lines that are set in stone...

 

[Beef Invictus]

Funny how a team that is one of the top 5 worst in the league has 3 lines that are set in stone...

Four lines and three pairs. The thought of having 2 or 3 rookie dmen in that lineup on purpose makes Fletcher dry heave. In turn, Flahr gets mad because a dry heave teases the possibility of Fletcher producing something to eat which never materializes

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I thought it was a revolving door?

 

[Adam Warlock]

Ghost + Hagg - 6 mil dollar cap hit and required giving up no assets to just keep. Instead, chuck traded both PLUS:

2021 1st
2022 2nd
2022 4th
2023 2nd
2023 3rd
2024 2nd

To turn those 2 into Risto and DeAngelo, who together cost almost twice the cap hit and are at best marginal upgrades...but in reality are arguably worse.

Its just mind boggling. And he couldve made it look not nearly as bad if he djdny trade for TDA and got a couple picks back for risto at the deadline...but he doubles down on his stupidity!

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

I thought it was a revolving door?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

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I guess it’s only a revolving door when there’s injuries which absolutely is not what we have been saying for years or anything.

Players only get opportunities when the organization has its hand forced.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Because the first three lines are set, both Lycksell (23) and Bellows (24) are better served playing big minutes in LHV than on the 4th line in Philly. Bellows actually had good metrics in Philly, just couldn't score to save his life (pressing?).

Who do you sit on the first three lines? JVR is being showcased, Hayes needs to build his value for a summer deal, same with Laughton, you gonna sit Allison? The 4th line generally plays 8 minutes a night, do you want to stick Lycksell with Brown and MacEwen?

At the TDL, JVR is a good bet to be moved, maybe Laughton, a couple others.
Hayes will probably wait for summer, same with Provorov due to cap implications.

There's no rush, if the Phantoms make the playoffs you might keep them there to play major roles in an AHL playoff than play out the string in Philly.

No rush. No problems. "What, me worry?"

-Every Deady post ever

 

[VladDrag]

It's the shitty role/fit obsessed mindset ruling the team.

Lycksell can't play top 9 minutes because he's unproven. But he can't play 4th line minutes to prove himself because it isn't his role/he can play more in the AHL.

Idiotic feedback loop. If Joseph Heller were still alive he could write a sequel based solely on the Flyers.

It’s so dumb. Just put him on the 4th line while you ‘showcase’ JvR. Then he’ll have 15 games at NHL speed prior to moving into a top 9 role (whatever the hell that means anyways). And what he needs is time to adjust to NHL speed.