2022/23 Roster Thread XV: Where Optional Skates are Mandatory

[Striiker]

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Well well well, looking who’s #3

Wonder if he could’ve been a little bit of a help on the 4th worst team. Chuck didn’t think so.

 

[DAVIDE1333]

Well well well, looking who’s #3

Wonder if he could’ve been a little bit of a help on the 4th worst team. Chuck didn’t think so.

Flyers have two defensemen in the top 2 in a category. Fewest points scored.

 

[Striiker]

Flyers have two defensemen in the top 2 in a category. Fewest points scored.

Chuck did a great job. Those two almost cost as much as G, by the way.

 

[Magua]

The Athletic had an article devoted to York today, and yes, it said how much sending him down helped him after a bad camp. But it did have some interesting tidbits. York and Sanheim both said they were afraid to make mistakes early on because of what they expected from Tortorella's reputation. York said he was "alarmed" when Tortorella became head coach (haha). Tortorella ended up telling Sanheim in video sessions to start skating more to impact the game, and something definitely changed after the first few weeks. And with York:

“The biggest thing with Cam is I don’t want him worrying about mistakes,” Tortorella reiterated. “I want him to have the right mindset. [...] I want him to have a mindset of making a difference. And I think that’s what he’s brought here. That’s what he has to stay on top of. Mistakes are going to be made. I just want him to … if he makes a mistake, I want him to go right back out there and try to make a difference, not hide in the weeds.[...] I’m looking for Yorkie to be selfish....”

And York has looked like York again. Much as I despise the mixed messaging from Fletchy and Flahrsy and Lappy, I can't say this is bad messaging. And York said Tortorella wants him to be a "rover." Charlie used the name Werenski -- I think this was his inserted commentary though. I like York, and he should be constantly involved, but rover is also not how I would describe him, which does go back to me believing management overstates his dynamism. He really doesn't have the gamebreaking skill or athletic qualities that requires. York is a great support flow player to me, and I'd measure his success in puck touches and pass volume more than anything offensively. They have a rover on the roster.....but it's not York.

 

[freakydallas13]

Giroux’s only real flaw was being on a dogshit team.

He was elite at some things and merely “good” or “really good” at everything else. No holes, never detrimental, even played much bigger than his size.

Unfortunately some fans and almost all media/execs are dumb enough to judge individuals on team achievements, so he remains criminally underrated.

The fact that he’s still this good, at this age, is crazy too. Hopefully Ottawa gets its shit together and can compete before he’s done there.

Remember when team Canada left him off the Olympic team in favour of Kunitz?

Lmao.

 

[Striiker]

The Athletic had an article devoted to York today, and yes, it said how much sending him down helped him after a bad camp. But it did have some interesting tidbits. York and Sanheim both said they were afraid to make mistakes early on because of what they expected from Tortorella's reputation. York said he was "alarmed" when Tortorella became head coach (haha). Tortorella ended up telling Sanheim in video sessions to start skating more to impact the game, and something definitely changed after the first few weeks. And with York:



And York has looked like York again. Much as I despise the mixed messaging from Fletchy and Flahrsy and Lappy, I can't say this is bad messaging. And York said Tortorella wants him to be a "rover." Charlie used the name Werenski -- I think this was his inserted commentary though. I like York, and he should be constantly involved, but rover is also not how I would describe him, which does go back to me believing management overstates his dynamism. He really doesn't have the gamebreaking skill or athletic qualities that requires. York is a great support flow player to me, and I'd measure his success in puck touches and pass volume more than anything offensively. They have a rover on the roster.....but it's not York.

This is the messaging from the same dogshit org that traded away someone, who actually is what they think York is, for negative value.

Holy shit. f*** them all.

 

[Beef Invictus]

This is the messaging from the same dogshit org that traded away someone, who actually is what they think York is, for negative value.

Holy shit. f*** them all.

It's more proof that they don't fully understand who or what they hired. Again.

"Dmen need to do more than play D" is such an elementary concept now that even Tortorella gets it. Management doesn't.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Tortorella ended up telling Sanheim in video sessions to start skating more to impact the game.

Knew it was something like this, just didn't know if it was Sanheim going to Torts or Torts going to Sanheim.

Hopefully Trav carries this confidence forward when Torts is gone.

 

[trostol]

Rebuilding!!!!!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Striiker]

Wait until the playoffs, idiots.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Wait until the playoffs, idiots.

Big Risty Rasmo is gonna be our Dusty Byfugly when we win the Cup next year.

 

[Striiker]

Big Risty Rasmo is gonna be our Dusty Byfugly when we win the Cup next year.

Torts thinks Cates is our Toews.

 

[freakydallas13]

Fisto's last point was like 5 days after Giroux's last point as a Flyer.

Just to put it in context.

 

[Magua]

Fisto's last point was like 5 days after Giroux's last point as a Flyer.

Just to put it in context.

Holy shit, he’s actually gone 40 games without a point. And this streak started 8 days after his minty fresh contract. What a player, what a management staff.

He’s -5 on a team that’s -28. He’s an analytics darling. He’s shown terrific chemistry on the top pair with Provorov. He’s finally turning into the shutdown defensive defenseman that the Flyers envisioned, and yet people still complain. Acquiring and signing Risto was arguably not even a mistake with this context, which puts Fletcher’s mistake total at zero.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Holy shit, he’s actually gone 40 games without a point. And this streak started 8 days after his minty fresh contract. What a player, what a management staff.



He’s -5 on a team that’s -28. He’s an analytics darling. He’s shown terrific chemistry on the top pair with Provorov. He’s finally turning into the shutdown defensive defenseman that the Flyers envisioned, and yet people still complain. Acquiring and signing Risto was arguably not even a mistake with this context, which puts Fletcher’s mistake total at zero.

Yeah but he only has 16 penalty minutes which means he’s soft as baby shit.

 

[freakydallas13]

Holy shit, he’s actually gone 40 games without a point. And this streak started 8 days after his minty fresh contract. What a player, what a management staff.



He’s -5 on a team that’s -28. He’s an analytics darling. He’s shown terrific chemistry on the top pair with Provorov. He’s finally turning into the shutdown defensive defenseman that the Flyers envisioned, and yet people still complain. Acquiring and signing Risto was arguably not even a mistake with this context, which puts Fletcher’s mistake total at zero.

11 months since he has scored a goal.

 

[Magua]

All this Ovechkin goal record talk made me crunch some numbers. Ristolainen needs -80 to clinch the record for +/-. That’s about -18 a season over the rest of his contract, but he’s such a warrior that injuries could get in the way (they always do). Another issue is he likely peaked already in his prime, eating empty net goals that he doesn’t get anymore, since his conversion to defensive defenseman. Will he stick around after to get the record? It’s doable. He’d only be 33.

 

[deadhead]

I'd point out that Matt Carle is on the list of players with the longest time before scoring a point, and he wasn't exactly a defensive specialist. Some puck luck involved.

This is the messaging from the same dogshit org that traded away someone, who actually is what they think York is, for negative value.

Holy shit. f*** them all.

I'll take York over Ghost any day of the week for a team that is rebuilding, York has a higher IQ and is 21.

 

[Striiker]

Holy shit, he’s actually gone 40 games without a point. And this streak started 8 days after his minty fresh contract. What a player, what a management staff.

Since signing his contract, he has:

3 points

0 goals

1 primary assist

44 games played

867 minutes on ice

And 37 goals scored have been scored while he was on the ice

 

[deadhead]

Who cares. No one liked the Risto trade or extension, but at this point the horse is now flayed, boiled, turned into shoes . . .
And Fletcher is dead man walking, odds are about when he'll be fired/promoted to an office w/o a window or phone.

If I've learned one thing about life, whining about the past is a great way to make yourself feel miserable.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Since signing his contract, he has:

3 points

0 goals

1 primary assist

44 games played

867 minutes on ice

And 37 goals scored have been scored while he was on the ice

Literally any mid-tier AHL dman making the NHL minimum could do what Risto is doing for $5.1m a year for the next half decade! Truly a masterclass in management by Chuck and his crew.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Don’t talk about the things that show that my stances are dog shit.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Since signing his contract, he has:

3 points

0 goals

1 primary assist

44 games played

867 minutes on ice

And 37 goals scored have been scored while he was on the ice

now thats some quality GMing...

 

[Magua]

I'd point out that Matt Carle is on the list of players with the longest time before scoring a point, and he wasn't exactly a defensive specialist. Some puck luck involved.

I'd like to point out that Matt Carle was on the list at age 31, in his last full season in the NHL (6 games the following season). That's sort of the common thread: everyone on that list was on their last NHL gasps. Carle was cooked, ready to get tossed out of the league. Ristolainen is 28 years old, in year 1 of his new $25 million contract, acquired for the small price of a 14th overall, 36th overall, and likely another mid-30s pick. And we have a year and a half of being told he's actually an offensive defenseman. Hell, Matt Carle at Risto's age was still a 30-40 point guy.

No shit there's puck luck involved. He'll probably get a handful in a short period. But it is morbidly hilarious.