2022/23 Roster Thread XIX: 19th Nervous Breakdown

[Beef Invictus]

I think Fletcher followed Scott's order to "aggressively reload."
This is the FO that still can't say the word "rebuild."

He sure did the worst possible job of it. There is no way for you to successfully pin the blame on anyone else. I don't know why you try.

 

[freakydallas13]

I think Fletcher followed Scott's order to "aggressively reload."
This is the FO that still can't say the word "rebuild."

So they were still trying to compete last offseason?

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Travis Konecny might have played his last game as a Flyer

According to some reports, the top Flyers forward could be on his way out.

www.broadstreethockey.com

 

[freakydallas13]

So they were still trying to compete last offseason?

You never answered me @deadhead

 

[Hextallent63]

I have zero faith in Briere but I will happily take him slotting into GM if it comes with every single one of those fat slobs getting purged forever. Don't ever even let them back into the facilities. Block all their numbers. Get restraining orders. Only Dave and Bernie can stay.

this sounds harsh and i apologize, but you would think these assholes would have moved on, jesus. 50 frigging years, get tf out of here.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

It would be peak flyers for them to decide to trade their best forward this year, one year after the bedard sweeps.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Travis Konecny might have played his last game as a Flyer

According to some reports, the top Flyers forward could be on his way out.

www.broadstreethockey.com

What type of value do you think he would have on market?

Last summer Debrincat trade would be somewhat of comparable though I am not sure if Konecny would be seen similar to Debrincat who was coming off his 2nd 41 goal season and has generally been more productive then Konecny

Konecny cap hit of $5.5M isn't bad but he is 2 years away from UFA and with tight cap it will be potentially difficult to find contender that can fit him at that price

 

[Striiker]

this sounds harsh and i apologize, but you would think these assholes would have moved on, jesus. 50 frigging years, get tf out of here.

Paycheck for zero work? Constant ego massaging? Treated like royalty when they’ve done absolutely nothing of value? Free box seats to every game?

They’re parasites. Of course they’re not going anywhere until forced out or in the ground.

 

[deadhead]

What type of value do you think he would have on market?

Last summer Debrincat trade would be somewhat of comparable though I am not sure if Konecny would be seen similar to Debrincat who was coming off his 2nd 41 goal season and has generally been more productive then Konecny

Konecny cap hit of $5.5M isn't bad but he is 2 years away from UFA and with tight cap it will be potentially difficult to find contender that can fit him at that price

DeBrincat is a better scorer, but TK is a better all around forward, he's become a dangerous PK guy and can use his speed to drive play. Plus, he plays with an edge that some coaches like.

You never answered me @deadhead

Who knows? It was an "aggressive reload."
Fire Scott!

 

[freakydallas13]

DeBrincat is a better scorer, but TK is a better all around forward, he's become a dangerous PK guy and can use his speed to drive play. Plus, he plays with an edge that some coaches like.


Who knows? It was an "aggressive reload."
Fire Scott!

Please try to remember next time you want to lecture us that you are unwilling to answer basic questions about how this team is run.

Don't worry, I'll be here to remind you.

 

[deadhead]

Please try to remember next time you want to lecture us that you are unwilling to answer basic questions about how this team is run.

Don't worry, I'll be here to remind you.

Who knows how this team is run? Really, we don't even know who is calling the shots.
I think we may know more about Putin's regime than Scott's.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Who knows how this team is run? Really, we don't even know who is calling the shots.
I think we may know more about Putin's regime than Scott's.

We know. You only pretend it's a mystery to defend Fletcher.

 

[freakydallas13]

We know. You only pretend it's a mystery to defend Fletcher.

It's the old "if I don't actually say anything, I can't be caught saying incoherent things" play. Classic go to when you know you're cornered and won't admit it.

 

[TB87]

What type of value do you think he would have on market?

Last summer Debrincat trade would be somewhat of comparable though I am not sure if Konecny would be seen similar to Debrincat who was coming off his 2nd 41 goal season and has generally been more productive then Konecny

Konecny cap hit of $5.5M isn't bad but he is 2 years away from UFA and with tight cap it will be potentially difficult to find contender that can fit him at that price

Any average GM could get at least a 1st RD pick for him. Fletcher is so far below average that he’d do everything in his power to do the other GM a favor and thus diminish his own team’s return (see: MacEwan trade….”I‘ll take Lemieux off Blake’s hands because I am a pushover nice guy.”).

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I wasn't sure where to put this, but it's from the 31 Thoughts posted overnight. Tagging @Hollywood Cannon because we always talk about how we don't have any metrics in this key area...

One governor said this week that, early in the season, comp tickets for Philadelphia games were up 50 per cent over 2021-22. Nothing delivers a message louder than that.

WOOF.

Friedman also said they were scouting Ottawa's AHL team until the Chychrun trade was completed.

 

[Curufinwe]

Allison and Lemieux are injured.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I wasn't sure where to put this, but it's from the 31 Thoughts posted overnight. Tagging @Hollywood Cannon because we always talk about how we don't have any metrics in this key area...



WOOF.

Friedman also said they were scouting Ottawa's AHL team until the Chychrun trade was completed.

So, uh, was that governor Dave Scott? Haha.

Or is it a statement from a home team that's saying that no one wants to see the Flyers?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

So, uh, was that governor Dave Scott? Haha.

Or is it a statement from a home team that's saying that no one wants to see the Flyers?

This feels like one of those things where whatever I say is going to be dissected needlessly (not by you), so here's the whole item.

. Ah, Philadelphia. About 25 years ago, I went to a Packers-Lions game in Detroit. The Silverdome (where Detroit played then) was full of Green Bay fans as Brett Favre dismantled the Lions. A year later, I tried to buy tickets for the Vikings' visit to Motown, but the Lions were so angry about the Packers’ fans takeover they created a rule where you had to buy tickets for at least four games. No more invasions! I thought of that last Wednesday as a legion of Rangers supporters erupted in Wells Fargo when Vladimir Tarasenko scored to beat the hometown Flyers in overtime.

I get it. No one wants to see thousands of fans celebrating a hated rival’s win in your building. It tastes like your grandmother’s worst liver dish. It’s not coming fast enough for Flyers’ fans, but there’s going to be change. The moment John Tortorella’s name appeared on that “this year was the first step in building the future of the Flyers” letter in February, it signalled where everything was going. The as-yet-undetermined part is how deep this rebuild will go, but there’s a chance it will be more significant than expected. One governor said this week that, early in the season, comp tickets for Philadelphia games were up 50 per cent over 2021-22. Nothing delivers a message louder than that.

Given the context, I read that as being about Flyers home games. If someone doesn't, fair enough. Just please leave me out of the arguments.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

This feels like one of those things where whatever I say is going to be dissected needlessly (not by you), so here's the whole item.



Given the context, I read that as being about Flyers home games. If someone doesn't, fair enough. Just please leave me out of the arguments.

Forgive my ignorance here but is that type of information shared freely with other organizations in real time? Or more so at the end of the year.

I know that i'm needlessly nitpicking here but really just gather if that was likely one of Scott or, I guess, Camillo or Fletcher. It seems like it would have to be but i'm also a moron.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

This feels like one of those things where whatever I say is going to be dissected needlessly (not by you), so here's the whole item.



Given the context, I read that as being about Flyers home games. If someone doesn't, fair enough. Just please leave me out of the arguments.

Can someone explain this to me like I’m 7.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Can someone explain this to me like I’m 7.

In theory, the amount of tickets that the Flyers gave out for free were up 50% early on in 22/23 compared to 21/22.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Forgive my ignorance here but is that type of information shared freely with other organizations in real time? Or more so at the end of the year.

I know that i'm needlessly nitpicking here but really just gather if that was likely one of Scott or, I guess, Camillo or Fletcher. It seems like it would have to be but i'm also a moron.

We can't know for sure. It is important to say that.

I would guess HRR is reported more often than annually so proper planning can be done for the future. Whether it's broken down already or it requires effort, we'll never know.

Can someone explain this to me like I’m 7.

Many more people who attend Flyers games this year didn't have to pay for their tickets.

 

[deadhead]

Team don't like the optics of empty seats, so they find ways to give out tickets.

It's getting obvious that major changes are coming, because it's not just that the team is bad, but the media attention has become overwhelmingly negative, both local and national.

And as more attention is focused on Scott and the advisors, jettisoning Fletcher won't be sufficient to convince the fan base that they're committed to turning this situation around.

Torts right now is the only credible voice in the organization, the fact they put his name on the letter instead of Fletcher or Scott says it all.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I wasn't sure where to put this, but it's from the 31 Thoughts posted overnight. Tagging @Hollywood Cannon because we always talk about how we don't have any metrics in this key area...



WOOF.

Friedman also said they were scouting Ottawa's AHL team until the Chychrun trade was completed.

ASF has talked about this on his podcasts over time. He didn’t put an actual number down. But he said the end of last year the Flyers were probably lucky to get about 5K in actual people to show up (live attendance not paid) but this year they’ve probably more so been in like the 5K-10K range most nights. He said they are comping like crazy this year which has made the building not look that empty so far. Their business model is essentially comping tickets to get people through the gate & get the money back through parking, concessions, merch, etc.