2022/23 Roster Thread XIV: Season's Beatings

[Striiker]

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You exist to hurt me, don’t you?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

@ajgoal Just to add to what Magua said, think back to the Risto heat maps at the time of the trade. There was a blob of deep blue right in front of the net to the Goalie's right because he absolutely does help in that area. But everything else was red because it's all he can do well.

In essence, it's the same mistake the Flyers make over and over again. It's a skill shopping list, not a collection of the best players they can get. Big. Shoots well. Chemistry and clever deployment will solve all problems.

 

[Beef Invictus]

@ajgoal Just to add to what Magua said, think back to the Risto heat maps at the time of the trade. There was a blob of deep blue right in front of the net to the Goalie's right because he absolutely does help in that area. But everything else was red because it's all he can do well.

In essence, it's the same mistake the Flyers make over and over again. It's a skill shopping list, not a collection of the best players they can get. Big. Shoots well. Chemistry and clever deployment will solve all problems.

"Once the genius coaches we hired get them, and our genius development staff teaches them to fight and grind, and they eat 40 loaves of bread a day, they'll turn the corner. We truly know best."

 

[ajgoal]

@Beef Invictus @Magua @JojoTheWhale

Thank you. I was guessing that was a good possibility, but didn't want to assume.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Listening to the new Snow the Goalie. So apparently Briere has a commitment with Team Canada for the Spengler Cup tournament overseas during the holidays. That’s pretty much why the haven’t made a move yet & why everybody keeps floating that end of the month time line for it to happen.

Apparently the organization is struggling on what to do exactly with Fletcher. The hockey people including Clarke want Fletcher to stay on as President. Scott really likes Fletcher too. He said business wise Comcast knows Chuck needs to go completely to win optics with the fanbase.

Therien shockingly said the entire front office needs to be canned even the people he likes personally that are alumni.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Risto still hasn’t been healthy scratched, right?

2 games i think...but yes he def. has been sat without injury

This isn't the only model that shows how bad he's been defensively.

The evolving hockey model has him as one of the worst defensive players in the league.

sounds like just another fantastic Flutch signing..

guy is batting 100... hahaahah

Listening to the new Snow the Goalie. So apparently Briere has a commitment with Team Canada for the Spengler Cup tournament overseas during the holidays. That’s pretty much why the haven’t made a move yet & why everybody keeps floating that end of the month time line for it to happen.

Apparently the organization is struggling on what to do exactly with Fletcher. The hockey people including Clarke want Fletcher to stay on as President. Scott really likes Fletcher too. He said business wise Comcast knows Chuck needs to go completely to win optics with the fanbase.

Therien shockingly said the entire front office needs to be canned even the people he likes personally that are alumni.

#sameasiteverwas...

of course the oldboys club want Flutch to stay on...hes their man...

 

[Flyer lurker]

This is just another example of the Flyers running their hockey ops line a kid playing Xbox while Carolina runs theirs like it’s Wall Street.

Simple Jack on xbox wouldn't trade
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2 2's
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Ghost
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Fisto

 

[FlyerNutter]

Listening to the new Snow the Goalie. So apparently Briere has a commitment with Team Canada for the Spengler Cup tournament overseas during the holidays. That’s pretty much why the haven’t made a move yet & why everybody keeps floating that end of the month time line for it to happen.

Apparently the organization is struggling on what to do exactly with Fletcher. The hockey people including Clarke want Fletcher to stay on as President. Scott really likes Fletcher too. He said business wise Comcast knows Chuck needs to go completely to win optics with the fanbase.

Therien shockingly said the entire front office needs to be canned even the people he likes personally that are alumni.

The one thing I do wonder with this is who is leaking to ASF.

What is the angle here for an organization that likes to ensure a country club atmosphere?

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Torts will fix Risto. Once you've lived a few hundred years like me, you learn patience. Y'all act like guys don't break out in their tenth season all the time. "Some old saying"

 

[FlyerNutter]

Also also. If there are indeed plans to replace Fletcher, why the hell was he allowed to give Sanheim that horseshit extension in season.

If the plans are indeed to go for an actual rebuild, is the thought that Provorov has more value than say Sanheim without 8 yr term?

 

[deadhead]

The one thing I do wonder with this is who is leaking to ASF.

What is the angle here for an organization that likes to ensure a country club atmosphere?

Probably a scout or analytics guy who's frustrated that the powers that be won't listen to people who actually know anything.

Also also. If there are indeed plans to replace Fletcher, why the hell was he allowed to give Sanheim that horseshit extension in season.

If the plans are indeed to go for an actual rebuild, is the thought that Provorov has more value than say Sanheim without 8 yr term?

That was a great extension, give the cap is set to start rising this or next summer.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The one thing I do wonder with this is who is leaking to ASF.

What is the angle here for an organization that likes to ensure a country club atmosphere?

It’s probably survival mode across the board within that organization. It’s becoming more prevalent of thought that the entire front office needs a cleansing. You have people like Therien even saying it now. If people like that are saying it who would have went ballistic at the thought of it a few years ago you know things are bad & it’s not gonna get better any time soon.

 

[renberg]

It’s probably survival mode across the board within that organization. It’s becoming more prevalent of thought that the entire front office needs a cleansing. You have people like Therien even saying it now. If people that are saying who would have went ballistic at the thought of it a few years ago you know things are bad & it’s not gonna get better any time soon.

I need you to stop posting this stuff. It gets my hopes up when I know that in the end it's going to be more of the SOS.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Torts will fix Risto. Once you've lived a few hundred years like me, you learn patience. Y'all act like guys don't break out in their tenth season all the time. "Some old saying"

 

[Beef Invictus]

Fletcher and Flahr staying in power ensures nothing will change. Everything must be bleached clean.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Probably a scout or analytics guy who's frustrated that the powers that be won't listen to people who actually know anything.


That was a great extension, give the cap is set to start rising this or next summer.

Bullshit extension. What’s more valuable? Value of assets in a rebuild, or a known secondary commodity to further help offset a true commitment to high end picks?

A team it’s current position has no business locking up its cap space to more secondary shit, and it’s not that I actually dislike Sanheim.

There was zero need for the move, when he was a prime trade candidate along with Konecny who they will never have the balls to consider selling high on.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It’s probably survival mode across the board within that organization. It’s becoming more prevalent of thought that the entire front office needs a cleansing. You have people like Therien even saying it now. If people like that are saying it who would have went ballistic at the thought of it a few years ago you know things are bad & it’s not gonna get better any time soon.

Hell, Therien probably pushes back on it in April. He's been a vigorous front office Cronyarchy apologist. It's a pretty drastic shift from wanting Clarke back in the chair to agreeing to a purge for someone like him.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Fletcher and Flahr staying in power ensures nothing will change. Everything must be bleached clean.

If Fletcher stays on as President call me in 2027. Maybe by then flyers will have 2nd round pick

 

[freakydallas13]

Do rebuilding teams trade 2 3 4 and pay 5m per for players they scratch?

But its all Hexy's fault.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Only if said player isn't a good fit on the team that trades for him.

Somehow, this isn't considered a bad move.

 

[Lindberg]

So I see it is the same ole usual suspects stroking the Flyers brass "brass".

Apparently not giving away productive players with assets, spending cap space, trading off picks isn't helpful to improve your team's standing.

This club could land Connor McDavid part 2 and the same ole usual suspects would only blame McDavid for the team not winning.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Bullshit extension. What’s more valuable? Value of assets in a rebuild, or a known secondary commodity to further help offset a true commitment to high end picks?

A team it’s current position has no business locking up its cap space to more secondary shit, and it’s not that I actually dislike Sanheim.

There was zero need for the move, when he was a prime trade candidate along with Konecny who they will never have the balls to consider selling high on.

The team is just starting to wake up to things we were all detecting five+ years ago. This level of thinking on guys like Sanheim is beyond them. They completely lack the flexibility.

 

[freakydallas13]

Is there a single Flyers asset that has increased in value since Fletcher took over?

The ranking of the picks he traded away.

All of their draft picks.

Ugh, beat me to it.

 

[Lindberg]

The team is just starting to wake up to things we were all detecting five+ years ago. This level of thinking on guys like Sanheim is beyond them. They completely lack the flexibility.

But BEEF we were only 2 years away from competing 5 years ago! Also don't you remember the playoffs were they beat THE Montreal Canadiens who were SO close to winning the covid cup?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

That Ross Joy guy made fun of Myrteus too on it. He actually did a pretty good voice impersonation of him. He made fun of him for trying to deny that Tortorella was forced onto Fletcher.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

It’s probably survival mode across the board within that organization. It’s becoming more prevalent of thought that the entire front office needs a cleansing. You have people like Therien even saying it now. If people like that are saying it who would have went ballistic at the thought of it a few years ago you know things are bad & it’s not gonna get better any time soon.

Watching that burn down live, is something they could convince me to buy tickets for.