2022/23 Roster Thread XII: The Twelfth Night, a comedy play

[renberg]

I'm willing to bet that some players are less out of place than others.

Sure. Some guys are out of position. Others are out of place and belong in LHV, Reading or the KHL.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He had Willman (who he played with in LHV) and Farabee, Cates had Tippett and MacEwen.
Just aren't enough good wingers to go around right now.
You could move Bellows up, he's a former 1st rd pick.

And he is on average far, far more effective at center when he has even one skilled winger than Cates tends to be with two.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Jimmy Hayes' son.

Nice of them to invite Ghost back.

 

[deadhead]

Worst forwards xGFrel (since battles for PT are between players on the roster, not players on other teams):

1st 10 games:
Bellows -16.52 (3g)
Frost -9.33
MacEwen -7.09
Cates -4.05
Tippett +3.54
Deslauriers +7.04
Laczynski +9.03 (7g)
Sedlak +9.61 (6g)

last 6 games:
Deslauriers -15.35
Farabee -13.45
Allison -7.64 (4g)
Bellows -6.51 (2g)
Tippett -2.07
Laczynski +0.74 (5g)
MacEwen +4.66
Cates +7.39
Frost +8.24
Sedlak +17.54

Deslauriers has fallen off a cliff, and I won't be surprised if he's benched once they have some healthy bodies.
Farabee is concerning, he's really struggled lately and was demoted to the 3rd line. Don't think he's 100% yet.
Allison was also struggling, which makes me think he was hurting even before he got injured
MacEwen, Cates and Frost have all upped their game recently, and I'd expect Frost to get more PT going forward.
Sedlak certainly has earned more shifts with better wingers than Deslauriers and Bellows.

 

[Curufinwe]

Literally no one else on the planet thinks xGF in tiny sample sizes are useful expect you.

 

[freakydallas13]

Anyone they put at 2C is out of position. Same with 1C.

Especially when the person they put there isn't even a center.

 

[Striiker]

And Brown goes right back in, as expected.

Roster lock.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

And Brown goes right back in, as expected.

Roster lock.

"What?!? You want to see Bellows playing?!?!!

What's the big deal?!?! It doesn't matter"

 

[Flyerfan4life]

And Brown goes right back in, as expected.

Roster lock.

old dogs will never block youth...

 

[deadhead]

"What?!? You want to see Bellows playing?!?!!

What's the big deal?!?! It doesn't matter"

We saw Bellows "play." Better to give his 8 minute to Brown.

 

[Beef Invictus]

And Brown goes right back in, as expected.

Roster lock.

Eh Bellows is nothing.

Make Brown the 4C, Sedlak 3C, Frost 2C, Cates goes to his actual position. Bring back Laczynski and let him and Brown trade spots, since we all knew Brown was a guaranteed fixture when healthy anyway. Let's get some semblance of a useful and rational development process going, as well as a more rational lineup.

It's just not as hard as this team always manages to make it.

 

[deadhead]

Literally no one else on the planet thinks xGF in tiny sample sizes are useful expect you.

xGF is more useful than Corsi or +/- in small samples.

xGFrel gives a sense of which players are doing a better job than their teammates, limited, but the change from the first ten games over the last six for some players does raise eyebrows - the smaller the sample, the larger the S.D., but some of those changes are huge in magnitude, which suggests that they may be significant.

 

[freakydallas13]

Brown, MacEwan, Deslauriers, and Willman all in the line up, and waiver claims Bellows and Sedlak on the roster, while Wade and Tanner are in the AHL. They can't even get into the lineup with a bunch of injuries on the roster.

Not to mention Zamula sitting in the box and York in the AHL while Seeler plays every game and Fisto still plays despite being horrid even by his standards.

The kids will play alright.

xGF is more useful than Corsi or +/- in small samples.

xGFrel gives a sense of which players are doing a better job than their teammates, limited, but the change from the first ten games over the last six for some players does raise eyebrows - the smaller the sample, the larger the S.D., but some of those changes are huge in magnitude, which suggests that they may be significant.

Yeah, you really showed all those people using +/- in a small sample size.

 

[Striiker]

Eh Bellows is nothing.

Make Brown the 4C, Sedlak 3C, Frost 2C, Cates goes to his actual position. Bring back Laczynski and let him and Brown trade spots, since we all knew Brown was a guaranteed fixture when healthy anyway. Let's get some semblance of a useful and rational development process going, as well as a more rational lineup.

It's just not as hard as this team always manages to make it.

Laczynski, not Bellows.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

We saw Bellows "play." Better to give his 8 minute to Brown.

It once again is irrelevant. Those aren’t the only two options.

The guy that we all knew would be in the lineup the second he was healthy is, in fact, in the lineup.

Nothing has changed. This is not a rebuild.

 

[freakydallas13]

Anyone they put at 2C is out of position. Same with 1C.

And they part where you said Frost would get 2C time if he deserved it, and I said Cates has been the 2C all season and has done nothing to deserve it? You going to comment on that or just ignore it?

 

[Rebels57]

Calling all Mods, I once again ask why I am subjected to seeing replies to posts from accounts I have on my ignore list? It makes the ignore list pretty much pointless.

 

[BiggE]

And Brown goes right back in, as expected.

Roster lock.

 

[deadhead]

We now are without Couts, Atkinson, JVR and Allison.
I'd like to see them shutdown Farabee for a little while, but don't think that's an option.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

Calling all Mods, I once again ask why I am subjected to seeing replies to posts from accounts I have on my ignore list? It makes the ignore list pretty much pointless.

100% this. It's so annoying having to screen out replies to the obvious trolls. How hard would it be to have an option to not see post that contain @theusualidiots

 

[Rebels57]

And Brown goes right back in, as expected.

Roster lock.

Brown, MacEwen, Deslauriers, Sedlak, Willman, Seeler, Braun

"We're going to play the kids."

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

What is the point of having Zamula up if he’s not playing?

 

[Beef Invictus]

I remember being told that Seeler would live in the AHL and Braun is a perfect #7 who would live in the press box because Tortorella is a development savant who prefers to play young players over veterans.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

What is the point of having Zamula up if he’s not playing?

#development...

 

[pooch]

If Brown is the worst player on your roster, that's not so bad. However, we have like 8 guys you can say that about.