2022/23 Roster Thread III: Run It Back!

[JojoTheWhale]

The wife is down there now. Im sending her over to make use of it.

I was going to say the heater's not on, but I don't think that matters today.

 

[trostol]

If York is in the AHL this upcoming season...than that is a huge fail by the folks running the team

 

[Starat327]

I was going to say the heater's not on, but I don't think that matters today.

She said the beach itself was practically unbearable. Too hot on the beach, but the water was too cold to go in too. Worst timeline.

 

[DancingPanther]

Building a pool? Yes. Lounging/drinking in one? Not at all.

Maintaining it

She said the beach itself was practically unbearable. Too hot on the beach, but the water was too cold to go in too. Worst timeline.

Water was 76 here wtf

 

[Starat327]

Maintaining it


Water was 76 here wtf

Who the hell gets a pool and not a poolbo- oh.


It wouldnt be the first time she over-exaggerated, that's all i'll say.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Maintaining it

Hell. It is hell. The chemicals and the water bill to fill the damn thing every year are enough to make you cry. But my wife loves it, so it stays.

 

[Starat327]

Hell. It is hell. The chemicals and the water bill to fill the damn thing every year are enough to make you cry. But my wife loves it, so it stays.

We would only empty ours every like 3rd year or so. The money saved on water bill probably just got dumped into shocking the hell out of it every may instead, though.

 

[DancingPanther]

Hell. It is hell. The chemicals and the water bill to fill the damn thing every year are enough to make you cry. But my wife loves it, so it stays.

And cleaning it for that first time. Gross.

Guys, what should I get at ShopRite. I'm restocking the coffers which are literally bare (we actually haven't costco style restocked the place yet, been a crazy summer) so I'm open to anything

 

[Starat327]

And cleaning it for that first time. Gross.

Guys, what should I get at ShopRite. I'm restocking the coffers which are literally bare (we actually haven't costco style restocked the place yet, been a crazy summer) so I'm open to anything

Jax.

 

[captainpaxil]

It's not just what it would cost to move jvr it's what you lose in moving jvr once the leverage swings in your favor in six months. So basically two first rd picks for cap space.
Now Johnny hockey wanting to play here was the worst kept secret in hockey so if you wanted to plan for that you trade risto to recoup value at the deadline and then guarantee g his spot back with ristos money. That gives you baron and gudreau instead of Tippett and risto and gudreau is a lot more attractive with g around to feed him the puck.

Fletcher just doesn't see the field of moves and assets the way other guys do. He's like a checkers player who sets himself up to get double jumped all game. Braun niskanen ghost Ellis DeAngelo it's always creating a hole to fill another never building on top of what's there.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Fletcher just doesn't see the field of moves and assets the way other guys do. He's like a checkers player who sets himself up to get double jumped all game. Braun niskanen ghost Ellis DeAngelo it's always creating a hole to fill another never building on top of what's there.

That's probably the best way to describe his abilities as a GM

He's the biggest dolt in the room at all times.

 

[Pet Charles]

If York is in the AHL this upcoming season...than that is a huge fail by the folks running the team

If the plan is to play him 10-11 minutes per night on a third pair, I’d be okay with him logging top minutes in LV. I agree this organization should be relying more heavily on guys like York (Ristolainen paired with Provy? No thanks, and we won’t even discuss the cap savings), but discussing the folly that had us spending $25M on a fairly poor defense is a horse beaten so badly that its carcass is no longer recognizable as an equine.

 

[TheKingPin]

Let's make a bet.

Tony DeAngelo vs. Johnny Gaudreau. Total points.

I bet they are within 20.

So you would take Risto over JG + 1st?

 

[Striiker]

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating — and it gets everywhere.

 

[Starat327]

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating — and it gets everywhere.

Sounds like you want a pool, then.

 

[DancingPanther]

Jax.

Did you come from behind that canopy or under it?

None of you are helpful

 

[Curufinwe]

If the plan is to play him 10-11 minutes per night on a third pair, I’d be okay with him logging top minutes in LV.

He averaged 19:05 last season for the Flyers.

 

[freakydallas13]

JVR's contract isn't the issue. Risto and TDA's was. Fletcher thinks forward for even a little bit, and he can create a cap situation where JVR is irrelevant.


This team is wholly owned by Fletcher. Weird to pick out a single contract when he's distributed every single other one. Fletcher is responsible for what, 95% of the cap situation? I don't think that 5% is what mattered.

Saying JVR is the biggest problem cap-wise today is like saying the lettuce on your cheeseburger adds too many calories.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Look at everyone scramble to deflect from JVR's contract being a monumental hindrance.

If you want to piss on Chuck's contracts, you better at least acknowledge just how bad the JVR contract was and how much it boxed them in this summer.

Oh no that contract was trashed when they inked him to it, nobody wanted 5 years, but were happy it was only 5 and not 7

And a gigantic hole at RHD.

Ronnie attard can fill in beautifully

Let’s make a bet. 30.5 wins. I take the over.

Hell I'll get in on that, I say under

 

[Flyerfan18]

The Gaudreau situation is unforgiveable. It's not like Fletcher just realized a few weeks ago that Gaudreau may be available. You plan accordingly.

I think he did plan accordingly.

 

[freakydallas13]

LOL at anyone defending signing Fisto or Hayes with the logic of "the team would have a huge hole to fill without them".

Riddle me this: why exactly is having a huge hole in the lineup a bad thing? Because if your answer is "the team would be bad", then boy are you in for a surprise.

 

[ponder719]

LOL at anyone defending signing Fisto or Hayes with the logic of "the team would have a huge hole to fill without them".

Riddle me this: why exactly is having a huge hole in the lineup a bad thing? Because if your answer is "the team would be bad", then boy are you in for a surprise.

Moreover, it would leave us money available to fill the more pressing hole, "player who is worth paying."

 

[deadhead]

Yeah, I can imagine Fletcher going to Holmgren in 2019 and telling him since Patrick is damaged goods, I'm writing off the season b/c there's no center worth paying, and AV will just have to be patient.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Since Hayes came to Philadelphia:

5v5 Points/60: JVR 1.95, Hayes 1.75
5v5 Primary Points/60: JVR 1.46, Hayes 1.3
5v5 Goals/60: JVR 0.86, Hayes 0.69

ES Points/60: JVR 2.03, Hayes 1.95
ES Primary Points/60: JVR 1.49, Hayes 1.48
ES Goals/60: JVR 0.83, Hayes 0.80

I find the discussion around these two fascinating sometimes.

 

[deadhead]

Since Hayes came to Philadelphia:

5v5 Points/60: JVR 1.95, Hayes 1.75
5v5 Primary Points/60: JVR 1.46, Hayes 1.3
5v5 Goals/60: JVR 0.86, Hayes 0.69

ES Points/60: JVR 2.03, Hayes 1.95
ES Primary Points/60: JVR 1.49, Hayes 1.48
ES Goals/60: JVR 0.83, Hayes 0.80

I find the discussion around these two fascinating sometimes.

Three distinctions:
1) Hayes was injured for most of 2020-21 and 2021-22, penalizing a guy for subpar performance when he plays through a painful injury to help a short handed team is a bit uncharitable
2) Hayes is a center, that has more value than a LW only player
3) Hayes kills penalties, though JVR is a much better PP guy