2022/23 Roster Thread III: Run It Back!

[DancingPanther]

Ghost, Hagg, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, and $4 million of cap space
for
Ristolainen, DeAngelo, and a 7th (and future considerations)

It's aggressive alright. Hardly a retool though

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Your head is buried so far in the sand that it's mere inches away from hitting bedrock.

Let’s make a bet. 30.5 wins. I take the over.

 

[TheKingPin]

And a gigantic hole at RHD.

But a huge star at wing in JG. Unless you think Risto is more important than JG + 1st + more?

JG obviates the need for a 2C to some extent. You’d still need something to happen with the existing players.

It’s a massive fail. No doubt Fletcher will be fired for it. Same as he was for poor choices at the expansion draft in Minny.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Let’s make a bet. 30.5 wins. I take the over.

For all this talk of Great Optimism, you think they can muster only 5 more wins than last year? That's the bar you set?

 

[DancingPanther]

For all this talk of Great Optimism, you think they can muster only 5 more wins than last year? That's the bar you set?

55 points max

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Chuck def the type of dude that takes 20 mins to set up those way-too-big canopy things on the beach with the poles and sand bags and shit

@JojoTheWhale

You have sent me down a rabbit hole. Who thought those things were a good idea?

 

[deadhead]

You have sent me down a rabbit hole. Who thought those things were a good idea?

They are when the Cabana boy sets them up for you, along with the good beach chairs and keeps the cold drinks coming.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

But a huge star at wing in JG. Unless you think Risto is more important than JG + 1st + more?

JG obviates the need for a 2C to some extent. You’d still need something to happen with the existing players.

It’s a massive fail. No doubt Fletcher will be fired for it. Same as he was for poor choices at the expansion draft in Minny.

Let's make a bet.

Tony DeAngelo vs. Johnny Gaudreau. Total points.

I bet they are within 20.

 

[DancingPanther]

You have sent me down a rabbit hole. Who thought those things were a good idea?

Jojo the shit people do on the beach is ludacrous. I know I already kind of explained this but you HAVE to picture watching 2 dudes in crocs, tee shirts, and those suits with the big cargo style side Velcro pockets fighting with this tarp. Trying to get the long leg/pocket things untangled and laying it out flat with the wind blowing...not even that windy I might add. It takes multiple tries to get this situated- one corner blows, the other blows, the side blows....Then the sand. Human adults with small shovels (we have used huge clam shells for generations to dig on the beach btw, like actual pros). Scoop after scoop after scoop into all four pockets. These things ended up being the size of actual sand bags. Then it's time for the poles. They gauge the wind like they're Ferdinand Magellan..."well I think it's coming more like south-southeast". It was unbelievable. Poles go up. They fall. They get readjusted. The thing is flapping like crazy. Readjustment. Puzzled, one of them removes their hat. "You know I think the wind has shifted, it's off the land a bit more now." The other agrees. Pole readjustment #3. Then they're finally happy, and they sit in their enormous, foot and a half off the ground beach chairs. You've got to be f***ing kidding me.

I'm mesmerized by all of this from my blankie 30 feet away behind my sunglasses, on my stomach with my head turned to the right, laying on my cheek listening to Steely Dan, collecting sweat on the small of my back and catching some sweet rays like a non-shoobie. It was so f***ing embarrassing. Unbelievable.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Ghost, Hagg, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, and $4 million of cap space
for
Ristolainen, DeAngelo, and a 7th (and future considerations)

 

[DancingPanther]

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[TCTC]

Let's make a bet.

Tony DeAngelo vs. Johnny Gaudreau. Total points.

I bet they are within 20.

My prediction is that Gaudreau will have between 80-90 points (similar to Panarin's production in Columbus) and DeAngelo will have ~40 points because our PP is a mess and DeAngelo alone won't change that.

 

[Adam Warlock]

And a gigantic hole at RHD.

Why is a 2nd pair RD more important than the 1st line LW? That entire argumemt is flawed.

1. When you have a defensive structured coach like Torts, the team defense is good enough that you can get away with having meh defensemen.

2. York has more than earned an oppurtunity to play in the top 4, even on the right side.

3. Sanheim and Braun is as good if not a better pair than Sanheim and risto.

4. TDA and Risto are waaaay easier to replace than a high end forward.

Bottom line is the team prioritized stupid intangibles like hits, right hand shots, and position over a rare chance to add high end talent. What worse is they gave up significant assets and cap space to add those intangibles.

Provy-York
Sanhein-Braun

Is that really really that much worse than their current top 4? Worse enough not to add Johnny?

 

[Diaper Mask Bandits]

is York even going to play?

i don't see him starting over Provorov, Braun, Sanheim, Risto, deangelo, Seeler

Now, I'd put him 3rd in the pecking order but I'm assuming the Flyer organization have him below all of these 6

 

[bennysflyers16]

So. Here's your choice:

You trade the Flyers 2023 1st round pick (to ditch JVR), and get Gaudreau.

Or you keep the 2023 1st rd pick and don't get Gaudreau.

I don't know about you, but I'm going option B.

Or,,, you trade Risto or Hayes, or Provy, or don't let the whole god damn league realize how desperate and awful you are . Guy similar to JVR were moved last week.

 

[Curufinwe]

Why is a 2nd pair RD more important than the 1st line LW? That entire argumemt is flawed.

1. When you have a defensive structured coach like Torts, the team defense is good enough that you can get away with having meh defensemen.

2. York has more than earned an oppurtunity to play in the top 4, even on the right side.

It would and should have been very easy to have paired Sanheim and Braun as a the regular 2nd pairing, but then send York-Sanheim out for some OZ shifts so that York averages the 4th most TOI on the defense.

Or,,, you trade Risto or Hayes, or Provy, or don't let the whole god damn league realize how desperate and awful you are . Guy similar to JVR were moved last week.

If you mean MaxPac, Vegas did have to toss in a decent young RHD.

 

[bennysflyers16]

He's not movable. Unless you want to attach a 1st to him. That is quite clear.

Could of attached the Risto picks
Could of attached all the Ghost picks
Could of attached all the TDA picks

Boom , JVR is gone

It would and should have been very easy to have paired Sanheim and Braun as a the regular 2nd pairing, but then send York-Sanheim out for some OZ shifts so that York averages the 4th most TOI on the defense.



If you mean MaxPac, Vegas did have to toss in a decent young RHD.

Sure, not a top 5 pick in one of the best projected drafts ever.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Jojo the shit people do on the beach is ludacrous. I know I already kind of explained this but you HAVE to picture watching 2 dudes in crocs, tee shirts, and those suits with the big cargo style side Velcro pockets fighting with this tarp. Trying to get the long leg/pocket things untangled and laying it out flat with the wind blowing...not even that windy I might add. It takes multiple tries to get this situated- one corner blows, the other blows, the side blows....Then the sand. Human adults with small shovels (we have used huge clam shells for generations to dig on the beach btw, like actual pros). Scoop after scoop after scoop into all four pockets. These things ended up being the size of actual sand bags. Then it's time for the poles. They gauge the wind like they're Ferdinand Magellan..."well I think it's coming more like south-southeast". It was unbelievable. Poles go up. They fall. They get readjusted. The thing is flapping like crazy. Readjustment. Puzzled, one of them removes their hat. "You know I think the wind has shifted, it's off the land a bit more now." The other agrees. Pole readjustment #3. Then they're finally happy, and they sit in their enormous, foot and a half off the ground beach chairs. You've got to be f***ing kidding me.

I'm mesmerized by all of this from my blankie 30 feet away behind my sunglasses, on my stomach with my head turned to the right, laying on my cheek listening to Steely Dan, collecting sweat on the small of my back and catching some sweet rays like a non-shoobie. It was so f***ing embarrassing. Unbelievable.

I know this isn't what they were doing, but I would have more fun on the beach pretending I was Magellan than just laying there. I hate laying on the beach. Yes, I know where I live. I'm not capable of doing nothing.

 

[Starat327]

I know this isn't what they were doing, but I would have more fun on the beach pretending I was Magellan than just laying there. I hate laying on the beach. Yes, I know where I live. I'm not capable of doing nothing.

This is why you get a pool. Multi-tasking.

 

[DancingPanther]

I'm going to say this only once.

The Flyers roster is lacking a 1W, 1W, 2C, 4W, 4W, 1D, 2D, 3D.

That's way to much to not tank. It's as simple as that. No offseason or number of offseasons will change that. Teams don't have enough cap room to sign that much top of the lineup talent to UFA deals.


Tank.

I know this isn't what they were doing, but I would have more fun on the beach pretending I was Magellan than just laying there. I hate laying on the beach. Yes, I know where I live. I'm not capable of doing nothing.

I don't lay all day, but I needed a nap. Ran 6 miles this morning.

 

[Starat327]

I'm going to say this only once.

The Flyers roster is lacking a 1W, 1W, 2C, 4W, 4W, 1D, 2D, 3D.

That's way to much to not tank. It's as simple as that. No offseason or number of offseasons will change that. Teams don't have enough cap room to sign that much top of the lineup talent to UFA deals.


Tank.


I don't lay all day, but I needed a nap. Ran 6 miles this morning.

I mean, we havent traded Sanheim YET

 

[DancingPanther]

This is why you get a pool. Multi-tasking.

That's entirely too much work

I mean, we havent traded Sanheim YET

Then they'll need two 1D

 

[Starat327]

That's entirely too much work


Then they'll need two 1D

Building a pool? Yes. Lounging/drinking in one? Not at all.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

This is why you get a pool. Multi-tasking.

We have a pool. I don't use that either.

 

[Starat327]

We have a pool. I don't use that either.

The wife is down there now. Im sending her over to make use of it.