Uhhh yeah. He has been making incredible plays in every single game. He is the best forward prospect since McDavid and Matthews, but feel free to keep living in your fantasy land.
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Uhhh yeah. He has been making incredible plays in every single game. He is the best forward prospect since McDavid and Matthews, but feel free to keep living in your fantasy land.
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I think this is almost certainly the long-term in-house plan.
Miro-Bichsel
Lindell-Lundkvist
Harley-Hakanpaa/Miller/whoever
MrHeiskanen
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Yea he is amazing, doesn't mean I that I can't call him out for begging for the puck 24/7.
Morry83
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If you’re 17 and on pace for 140 points in the WHL and have 8 points in 2 games at the WJC, you can beg for the puck as much as you please.
starsfan86
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Kcb12345
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Stankoven has a goal and 3 assists (at least) today for Canada, but he's been amazing. Could have so much more. Also has made some really flashy and fancy plays that I love seeing from him. He and Bedard are dynamite together I hope Kamloops can trade for him
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starsfan86
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Stankoven player of the game for Canada. Him and Bedard together are impossible to stop.
TangoMcBride
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Put Kyrou on that 3rd pair with Harley and I think you pretty much nailed it.
LT
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Kyrou is a long shot still. He has a long way to go before we can count on him to even be a #6 defender.
Grushnikov is in there too.
TangoMcBride
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Fair enough.
Speaking of defensive prospects, the Texas Stars won their game tonight 7-3. Thomas Harley was named the 1st star and had a goal and an assist. That's now 9 points in his last 10 games.
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I was unable to watch but judging by TOI it seems like the Swiss coaches pretty much handed the points to the US. All players were below 20mins, just 2 players played more than 18mins, no player less than 10mins. Which is strange because they were actually in this until late in the 2nd and ice times were completely different the first two games. For example, Bichsel played just 15:19 which is over 10mins less than in both game 1 and 2. Maybe the coaches felt that after playing two OT's back to back the energy level was low and since they won both games it wasn't worth challenging the US.
I don't think Miro's ideal partner is a pure defense first Dman at all. Miro IMO just isn't quite skilled and dominant enough offensively to where I think him paired with a pure shutdown guy is ideal. You still want Miro to be the more offensive player in the pairing, but his ideal partner is someone who leans more defensive, but still has a good amount of offensive capability. Bischel IMO is only that guy if his offensive game comes along.
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Next season with Hanley unlikely to return ( at least as the Stars regular #7 to be scratched ) i hope the coaching staff will be more willing to sit Suter . Rest of the Stars defense is all signed for at least one more season so Harley just taking Hanleys spot would be a waste.
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Next season you hope they bite the bullet and trade Faska for whatever they can get. Then you say me culpa and buyout Suter. Without Suter blocking him Harley can ride shotgun with Jani or Miller on the bottom pair to get his feet wet.
If they absolutely refuse to get rid of Suter for some reason then you have to move Miller to make room. Keeping Harley down makes no sense when the defense still struggles at times to transition the puck. Harley has done as the Stars have asked him to, working on his defense and off the puck positioning. It would be a slap in the face to get the results you wanted but then not promote the player because of meh veterans with a year or two remaining blocking him for another season.
If they absolutely refuse to get rid of Suter for some reason then you have to move Miller to make room. Keeping Harley down makes no sense when the defense still struggles at times to transition the puck. Harley has done as the Stars have asked him to, working on his defense and off the puck positioning. It would be a slap in the face to get the results you wanted but then not promote the player because of meh veterans with a year or two remaining blocking him for another season.
I wasn’t trying to his ideal partner is an offensive black hole. A defense first Dman that can contribute offensively and keep the play going in the offensive zone. It would be great if Bichsel could develop that offensive game but it’s far from a guarantee. His showing in the WJC so far is promising though.
BG44
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Tavares 2.0. He's going to be amazing. Just not sure I'm going to want him on my team, which he won't be anyway, if he ends up that selfish.
David Castillo
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Bichsel rating higher than the second and sixth overall picks in team shot quality generation is not something I would ever have expected. (Blah blah blah, small sample size.)
starsfan86
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Are you happy with this pick since everyone is already on the topic of Nill’s good and bad 1st round picis?
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At the time I had mixed feelings. Going D felt like the philosophy behind the 2013-2016 class, where I felt like Nill and the gang were too eager to go for players that seemed to support the core rather than supplant them. But for me it was between Pickering and Bichsel (at the time I thought Chesley belonged in that group too; oof) if we went D, with Kulich, Ohgren, Snuggerud, and Lambert being the overall more interesting picks. I've been showing more respect to defenders who are always described as good defensively with "low offensive ceilings" because it's been used on everyone that eventually goes super saiyan lately: Miro, Sanderson, Miller, Schneider, Guhle, etc. I don't know why I'm rambling about this but might as well keep it going...
I try not to judge these picks in retrospect though. Yea Tufte is a bust, but that was a week draft (even if some hilariously talented players went right after between TNT, Kyrou, DeBrincat, Girard, Lindgren, and Fox). I do think the Nill era has struggled to with finding defenders with gamebreaking offense. I'm actually a fan of Harley, but I don't expect him to be a big time point producer. I know Kyrou's numbers are kind of insane, but I do worry about his skating (unlike forwards, defenseman can't get away with being plodders) translating, whereas if you wanted a PMD Lane Hutson was right there. That pick still annoys me.
I try not to judge these picks in retrospect though. Yea Tufte is a bust, but that was a week draft (even if some hilariously talented players went right after between TNT, Kyrou, DeBrincat, Girard, Lindgren, and Fox). I do think the Nill era has struggled to with finding defenders with gamebreaking offense. I'm actually a fan of Harley, but I don't expect him to be a big time point producer. I know Kyrou's numbers are kind of insane, but I do worry about his skating (unlike forwards, defenseman can't get away with being plodders) translating, whereas if you wanted a PMD Lane Hutson was right there. That pick still annoys me.
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Even at the draft there didn't really seem like there was a no brainer selection or a consensus BPA. It seemed like there was about 10 guys who you could have selected and it would have been justifiable. I think that's still true now to an extent. Kulich, Bystedt, Mesar, Bischel, Snuggerud have all looked like excellent players at this tournament and were all selected between picks 18 and 28.
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