Prospect Info: 2022-23 Ducks Prospects

[bsu]

I think our defense at absolute best Vaaks, Thrun and Luneau all have the capability to become Lydman like defensemen if they develop well. Helleson could be a non-fighting Manson type. LaCombe you're hoping for a Shattenkirk type (not current lol). Mintyukov absolute best I think would be a Josi type. Drysdale a mix of Fowler and Miro, Zellweger a mix of Spurgeon and Girard.

None of this will work out... I promise... lol this is best case scenario. Our defense has a lot of potential I hope we develop them well.

 

[pbgoalie]

They are very close to me at this point.

All I know is that I haven’t watched prospects enough, especially Minty.

But if he’s equal to or better than Zellweger…..damn, we got some good ones

 

[Hockey Duckie]

The Rookie tourney is just around the corner! It'll be held at San Jose's Tech CU Arena, the Barracuda's new home. Here's the info and Duckling schedule:

The 2022 Rookie Faceoff is slated to take place Sept. 16-19 and features nine games scheduled between four teams from the Pacific Division (Anaheim, Los Angeles, San Jose and Vegas) and two from the Central Division (Arizona and Colorado). The tournament will feature top prospects from all six clubs and was last hosted by Arizona in 2021.​

Friday, Sept 16th: Ducks v Sharks @ 7pm​

Saturday, Sept 17th: Ducks v Yotes @ 4:30pm​

Monday, Sept 19th: Ducks v Golden Kinghts @ 12:30pm​

We won't see any college kids at this event. I think it's because school's started and they, the college prospects, have to pay for all the expenses, iirc.

 

[GunnarStahl]

When will the rookie tournament happen?

Edit: holy shit

 

[GunnarStahl]

Mock lineup for rookie tourney, very subject to change

Tracey-McTavish-Perreault
Regenda-Gaucher-Pastujov
Tschigerl-Groulx-King
Hvidston-Lopina-McLaughlin
Kindopp

Mintyukov-Helleson
Zellweger-Warren
Hinds-Luneau
Andersson

Dostal
Clang
Alexander

One thing I feel this makes apparent is that we could definitely use more prospect depth on forwards, not that it’s bad but compared to the depth elsewhere it could be beneficial

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Mock lineup for rookie tourney, very subject to change

Tracey-McTavish-Perreault
Regenda-Gaucher-Pastujov
Tschigerl-Groulx-King
Hvidston-Lopina-McLaughlin
Kindopp

Mintyukov-Helleson
Zellweger-Warren
Hinds-Luneau
Andersson

Dostal
Clang
Alexander

One thing I feel this makes apparent is that we could definitely use more prospect depth on forwards, not that it’s bad but compared to the depth elsewhere it could be beneficial

Agreed on that forward prospect depth. We have only one notable offensive forward not listed here in collegiate RW Sam Colangelo. He was almost a point per game player in college this year after a slow start.

In the 2nd round with our second pick, after picking shutdown D Warren, I was hoping for 6'2 center Rieger Lorenz. His scouting profile I thought would fit in with new GM Verbeek. I wonder if Lorenz heading off to the NCAA (Denver) scared Verbeek away? Or was it because Lorenz is a big gamble because he was still in the AJHL?

We got an imbalanced draft with our top-4 selections, heavy on the D side.

 

[tomd]

2023 draft is going to add at least one more top forward and probably 2 or 3 more.

 

[Kalv]

The Rookie tourney is just around the corner! It'll be held at San Jose's Tech CU Arena, the Barracuda's new home. Here's the info and Duckling schedule:

The 2022 Rookie Faceoff is slated to take place Sept. 16-19 and features nine games scheduled between four teams from the Pacific Division (Anaheim, Los Angeles, San Jose and Vegas) and two from the Central Division (Arizona and Colorado). The tournament will feature top prospects from all six clubs and was last hosted by Arizona in 2021.​

Friday, Sept 16th: Ducks v Sharks @ 7pm​

Saturday, Sept 17th: Ducks v Yotes @ 4:30pm​

Monday, Sept 19th: Ducks v Golden Kinghts @ 12:30pm​

We won't see any college kids at this event. I think it's because school's started and they, the college prospects, have to pay for all the expenses, iirc.

They must be starting to train together soon, right? Any note on when that could happen and if the fans will be able to visit and see practices?

SJ is near sillicon valley and they are sponsored by Zoom, the games better be streamed

Can't wait

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

2023 draft is going to add at least one more top forward and probably 2 or 3 more.

I think the nice thing for us going into the 23 draft.... is were pretty stacked on defensive prospects(tho i imagine we will still look for some sleepers in the 2nd-4th round)..... but were also fairly deep down the middle with Zegras - McTavish - Lundy- Gaucher - Groulx, were basically just trying to fill winger holes at this point, which gives us the option to still go center or winger.


Im hoping for a 6-10 pick again..... lot of good options in that range.

Klingberg should have a lot of takers at 50% at deadline. I look at a team like the Senators who should be a cusp playoff team... Hamonic Zub Zaitsev.... isnt really great depth on the right side. And really no offensive minded guys there. I wonder if something like

Ott 1st (top 10 protected) + Boucher + Zaitsev
for
Klingberg at 50%

Flames are another team id want to target.

They must be starting to train together soon, right? Any note on when that could happen and if the fans will be able to visit and see practices?

SJ is near sillicon valley and they are sponsored by Zoom, the games better be streamed

Can't wait

Im driving to berkley that week... but my gf couldnt get the time off early in the week, so were not getting there until the day after the tournament is over..... almost aligned where we woulda been able to stop in SJ for a day or 2 to watch some of the games. Still trying to convince her

 

[bsu]

https://theathletic.com/3509131/2022/08/29/nhl-players-prospects-rankings-under-23?source=user-shared-article

 

[bsu]

Top 25 OHL Prospects - Summer of 2022

It certainly was great to have the OHL back playing again this past year. It was a remarkable season with some standout individual performan...

ohlprospects.blogspot.com

 

[anezthes]

https://theathletic.com/3509131/2022/08/29/nhl-players-prospects-rankings-under-23

3. Zegras
24. McTavish
34. Drysdale
51. Zellweger
82. Gaucher
102. Helleson
121. Lundeström
152. Mintyukov
166. Clang

 

[bsu]

Mintyukov must have clapped Pronmans girl.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

3. Zegras
24. McTavish
34. Drysdale
51. Zellweger
82. Gaucher
102. Helleson
121. Lundeström
152. Mintyukov
166. Clang

I'll add onto that with the tiers and tier descriptions.

Ducks		Pronman U-23 Prospect Ranking
2022		​
Rank	Tier	Tier Description	Player	Pos
3rd	1​	Bubble elite/NHL All-Star	Zegras	C
24th	4​	Top of the lineup player or top-tier goaltender	McTavish	C
34th	4​	Top of the lineup player or top-tier goaltender	Drysdale	RD
51st	5​	Bubble top and middle of the lineup player or quality starting goalie	Zellweger	LD/RD
82nd	6​	Middle of the lineup player or starting goalie	Gaucher	C
102nd	6​	Middle of the lineup player or starting goalie	Helleson	RD
121st	6​	Middle of the lineup player or starting goalie	Lundestrom	C
152nd	6​	Middle of the lineup player or starting goalie	Mintyukov	LD
166th	6​	Middle of the lineup player or starting goalie	Clang	G

I still don't like Pronman's ranking of our Ducks system. Gaucher over the established NHL Lundy? Minty dropping all the way down there? Clang over Dostal?

Just looking at that ranking with tiers, it makes me happy to know that we have Terry already on the team. We are lacking top NHL talent if we're to use Pronman's ranking and tiered system. Yikes!

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Top 25 OHL Prospects - Summer of 2022

It certainly was great to have the OHL back playing again this past year. It was a remarkable season with some standout individual performan...

ohlprospects.blogspot.com

Wow. McTavish being ranked ahead of Shane Wright?!

Ducks and summary description

1st. C McTavish (complete package, no true weakness)​

5th. LD Mintyukov (offensive defender talent through the roof)​

24th. RW Pastujov (would rank higher if his skating was better)​

 

[bsu]

Idk how many times I've posted this on here but Pronman is a tool. Still a decent read to kill time at work though.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Idk how many times I've posted this on here but Pronman is a tool. Still a decent read to kill time at work though.

Why does he hate dostal so much

 

[bsu]

Why does he hate dostal so much

Just as an example. Lets say the Kings... Pronman has Kaliyev, Turcotte, Kupari and Fagemo ranked higher than Mintyukov... They have Jordan Spence ranked similarly (he's been a pleasant surprise but cmon)....

 

[lwvs84]

Why does he hate dostal so much

He hates offensive goalies. Dostal scored too many goals for his liking

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Why does he hate dostal so much

He's not the only one who hates Dostal. Wheeler didn't like Dostal either. ha!

 

[tomd]

Dostal is 1-2 inches undersized and that is always going to be a strike (or two) against him until he proves he can play in the NHL.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Just as an example. Lets say the Kings... Pronman has Kaliyev, Turcotte, Kupari and Fagemo ranked higher than Mintyukov... They have Jordan Spence ranked similarly (he's been a pleasant surprise but cmon)....

Mintyukov has kinda gotten 0 love in general… looks amazing to me even before we drafted him…. I feel like I’m missing something maybe /shrug

Dostal is 1-2 inches undersized and that is always going to be a strike (or two) against him until he proves he can play in the NHL.

He has clang ranked and they are same height

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Dostal is 1-2 inches undersized and that is always going to be a strike (or two) against him until he proves he can play in the NHL.

Dostal: 6'2 and 174 lbs
Clang: 6'2 and 190 lbs

Clang hasn't played in the NHL, but Dostal has. Dostal got four NHL games with a .907 Sv % last year.

 

[tomd]

Dostal: 6'2 and 174 lbs
Clang: 6'2 and 190 lbs

Clang hasn't played in the NHL, but Dostal has. Dostal got four NHL games with a .907 Sv % last year.

I'd love to put them back to back and see if they really are the same height. I have my doubts but maybe Pronman's ranking speaks as much to Clang's potential as it does Dostal's. Either way, I'm glad the Ducks have them both and I'm not losing sleep over silly rankings that mean nothing in the greater scheme of things.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I'd love to put them back to back and see if they really are the same height. I have my doubts but maybe Pronman's ranking speaks as much to Clang's potential as it does Dostal's. Either way, I'm glad the Ducks have them both and I'm not losing sleep over silly rankings that mean nothing in the greater scheme of things.

I inserted links to their EP pages to negate the height angle between Dostal and Clang. You mentioned about proving to play in the NHL and I shared that Dostal did play last year in the NHL.

Dunno why you're on the defensive when I just provided factual answers. As for why Clang is rated higher with Pronman, maybe Pronman sees a higher potential in Clang.

To add a counter, The Hockey News' 2022 Future Watch has Dostal ranked 69th overall and Clang wasn't ranked in their top-100 prospects.

I agree with you that we have more depth with both in our system and staggered in time. Dostal is a 2018 draftee and Clang a 2020.