Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: The Search for a 2C

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I think there is a tremendous difference in skating between Kadri and O'Reilly. Kadri can still burn guys coming down the wing. O'Reilly never had that ability and his skating has only gotten worse over the years.

As for the proposal, I'm all for giving up less. I just don't see a scenario where the Canucks accept anything less than a king's ransom for their captain who is currently pacing 94 points (including f***ing 70 goals lol).

If it could be an all futures trade and we keep Newhook, perfect. If it could be a Newhook + OO deal and we keep the 2023 1st, perfect. But I think it's going to cost a pretty penny to acquire IMO the best player to hit the market this season if Vancouver does decide to sell.
Aye caramba!

I thought I'd check out the 1st period of the bLose vs the sharks before the Avs game tonight and woah... WTF??

I don't know what kind of summer ROR had but I don't think it involved running the steps at the arena like he used to do. He looks awful.
 
So Werenski out for the year. Who do we buy off CBJ? Too bad they are short on Cs, but Gavrikov seems like an obvious target, though given the price might only make sense if we ship out G in a corresponding C deal.
 
Here’s by totally unrealistic rosterbating trade idea.

To Col
PLD (50%)
Wheeler (50%)

To Wpg
Girard
Newhook
JTC
2023 first

Landy-MacK-Rantanen
Nuke-PLD-Wheeler
Lehkonen-ERod-Kaut
Cogs-Helm-LOC
Toews-Makar
Byram-Manson
McDonald-EJ
G
F

2023-24 off-season:
Cap: $86.5m
Cap space: $17m

PLD $8x8
Byram $4.5x3
Meyers $1.25x2
Kaut $1.25x2
EJ $1x1
Bowers $0.8x1
Ranta $0.8x1

Landy-MacK-Mikko
Nuke-PLD-Wheeler
Lehk-Meyers-Kaut
Ranta-Bowers-LOC
Toews-Makar
Byram-Manson
MacDoald-EJ
G
F
Scratch: MacD

The next year pay Wheelers Money to Toews ($8.6m by 6-8 years) bring up Annunen. Year after that probably have Mikko walk, year after that pay Byram the rest of Manson’s money + whatever.
 
Here’s by totally unrealistic rosterbating trade idea.

To Col
PLD (50%)
Wheeler (50%)

To Wpg
Girard
Newhook
JTC
2023 first

Landy-MacK-Rantanen
Nuke-PLD-Wheeler
Lehkonen-ERod-Kaut
Cogs-Helm-LOC
Toews-Makar
Byram-Manson
McDonald-EJ
G
F

2023-24 off-season:
Cap: $86.5m
Cap space: $17m

PLD $8x8
Byram $4.5x3
Meyers $1.25x2
Kaut $1.25x2
EJ $1x1
Bowers $0.8x1
Ranta $0.8x1

Landy-MacK-Mikko
Nuke-PLD-Wheeler
Lehk-Meyers-Kaut
Ranta-Bowers-LOC
Toews-Makar
Byram-Manson
MacDoald-EJ
G
F
Scratch: MacD

The next year pay Wheelers Money to Toews ($8.6m by 6-8 years) bring up Annunen. Year after that probably have Mikko walk, year after that pay Byram the rest of Manson’s money + whatever.
Would love PLD over most if not all of the other "realistic" options out there. Basically as close to a carbon-copy Kadri replacement as you're going to find, despite the defensive woes. Only issue is he'd be expensive and a flight risk.
 
Would love PLD over most if not all of the other "realistic" options out there. Basically as close to a carbon-copy Kadri replacement as you're going to find, despite the defensive woes. Only issue is he'd be expensive and a flight risk.
PLD is an absolute perfect fit for Colorado. Style, age, size...everything.

I don't believe he's a flight risk either.
 
Hasn't PLD made it clear he wants a rather large hockey market? Denver isn't exactly that, nor was Columbus and nor is Winnipeg.

IMO he's a Montreal Canadien the instant he has freedom.
 
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Hasn't PLD made it clear he wants a rather large hockey market?
No.

He didn't want to commit long term to CBJ because he was afraid he'd be the only one doing it (the team had recently lost Panarin, Bob, Duchene and Jones was on his way out) and then got traded to Winnipeg and was asked to commit long term at the end of last season shortly after the coach resigned and Wheeler + Scheifele were openly saying they wanted to leave.

It's perfectly understandable and reasonable to not want to commit long term to the 2 less attractive markets in the NHL when everyone around you has left or is threatening to leave.

He really was at the wrong places at the wrong time.
 
I mean...yeah, PLD is probably the best option at this point unless the Flyboys are willing to retain a sizeable amount of Kevin Hayes' contract, but that dude has some red flags for sure.
 
Only if he signs an extension, pretty sure he's just going to accept his QO and sign in Montreal next year.

Why are we so convinced he's going to sign with Montreal? Other prominent Quebecois players (Lecavalier, Briere) had ample opportunity to do so and actively avoided doing so.
 
Why are we so convinced he's going to sign with Montreal? Other prominent Quebecois players (Lecavalier, Briere) had ample opportunity to do so and actively avoided doing so.
If I'm not mistaken an article this past summer from The Athletic cited various sources close to PLD stating he has his eyes set on Montreal the instant he can make a choice.
 
If I'm not mistaken an article this past summer from The Athletic cited various sources close to PLD stating he has his eyes set on Montreal the instant he can make a choice.

I'll believe it when I see it. Lecavalier paid lip service IIRC like that and then balked because he didn't want to be in that meat grinder. I imagine taxes and spending time on Florida beaches played a small part as well.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. Lecavalier paid lip service IIRC like that and then balked because he didn't want to be in that meat grinder. I imagine taxes and spending time on Florida beaches played a small part as well.
Of course, but there is still cause for concern. This is the article I'm referencing from TheScore, not The Athletic:


Coming from his agent, I'd assume they've had conversations about playing for Montreal. So that part scares me.
 
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Hasn't PLD made it clear he wants a rather large hockey market? Denver isn't exactly that, nor was Columbus and nor is Winnipeg.

IMO he's a Montreal Canadien the instant he has freedom.
I mean, as a free agent he'll earn the opportunity to go where he wants, but nothing about PLD makes me think he's going to thrive in the spotlight of a Montreal or Toronto pressure cooker.

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