Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[Richard88]

This is not a good, balanced pairing. That's the point of making a move.

Byram - Makar
Toews - Girard
xxxx ---- EJ

I wouldn’t move anyone in our D core until next summer.

Yep, that's the smart move. If nothing else it gives you time to see if Byram's really over his concussions. That's also when Behrens starts to become a possibility too.

 

[PAZ]

Unless two of Byram/Toews/Makar are injured, Manson brings more to this team than G. I'd look really hard at trying to make a hockey trade involving G.

G is the better player and keeping him is better in the long run, but Manson will have a bigger impact for the next 1-3 years.

 

[Spleenless Wonder21]

I know G’s on a nice contract, but it’s hard to put a lot of faith in a guy whose go to postseason moves are shying away from contact while getting beaten to a pulp, or injured.

 

[Hasbro]

If Nuke and Lehkonen get locked in long term that makes Olauson trade bait to me since the top 6 winger spots are locked up for at least the next 3 years.

 

[Richard88]

One guy that people are forgetting is Sedlak. I doubt he agreed to sign with the Avs to end up in the AHL. It might end up being the case but IMO he will be given a strong opportunity to make the team as the 4C if they don't re-sign Helm.

Sedlak has a two way deal paying him $500k in the AHL. Looks like he'll be next season's Sherwood or Sikura as first or second call-up.

 

[Richard88]

If Nuke and Lehkonen get locked in long term that makes Olauson trade bait to me since the top 6 winger spots are locked up for at least the next 3 years.

I appreciate where you're coming from, but a player like Olausson who can transition and snipe the puck would be the perfect dovetail on a line with our two-way forwards. If he can become Burakovsky on an ELC you've got the makings of a great 3rd line, with either Lehkonen or Olausson carrying a big offensive threat on the 3rd line.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Manson definitely is more valuable to the Avs than Girard. They are not winning the cup without Manson, but did just fine without G. If they lose him they need another similar Dman at least at the deadline to go for another cup.

 

[UncleRisto]

Would be cool if they found a dance partner for a 1-for-1 or so with Girard and a 2C.

 

[RockLobster]

The only way Kadri can stay is if that contract is heavily frontloaded. Not sure if he’ll want that or not

 

[RockLobster]

Manson definitely is more valuable to the Avs than Girard. They are not winning the cup without Manson, but did just fine without G. If they lose him they need another similar Dman at least at the deadline to go for another cup.

Look I loved what Manson brought to the team, but to say he’s more valuable to the Avs than Girard is just not accurate.

If Tampa had been successful at trapping us in the NZ, we would have looked back at not having Sammy as a total detriment to our chances.

 

[Goulet17]

Based on how Colorado has handled contracts in recent years, I would be very surprised if Kadri, Manson, and Kuemper return. Colorado and Sakic typically have not liked to pay for many years after the age of 30, so I don't see them offering anything other than very short term contracts to those players. They will receive better offers on the open market from less intelligent GMs.

 

[TheShape]

Man you guys value weird dudes.
Fiala is a one trick pony that was a zero trick donkey in the playoffs.
Also a whiny spazz.

It's a brutal overpay by Blake on the cost to acquire + the contract. Nearly 8m for an off the counter player, I don't know what the rush is in LA right now.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Look I loved what Manson brought to the team, but to say he’s more valuable to the Avs than Girard is just not accurate.

If Tampa had been successful at trapping us in the NZ, we would have looked back at not having Sammy as a total detriment to our chances.

I don't agree. Girard's strenghts are already done at a high level by Makar, Toews and Byram. It's not really a surprise the Avs were able to win 2+ rounds without the guy.

It's completely different with Manson. They had to have his big body laying hits, clearing the crease and making it difficult for the opponent. Avs would have been worse if Manson was out instead of G.

 

[TheShape]

Can argue who the better hockey player is but Manson's profile is more valuable to the Avs than Girard. Let Manson walk and Sakic is paying assets again next season looking for another Manson.

The move is Girard for a C.

I think Sakic offers Kadri 7m max over 4-5 years, no way he'll get more than Landeskog. There are a lot of dumb GMs out there though and someone will offer Kadri around 8.5m.

As for Kuemper, look for a 7x7m offer from Ken Holland.

 

[RockLobster]

I don't agree. Girard's strenghts are already done at a high level by Makar, Toews and Byram. It's not really a surprise the Avs were able to win 2+ rounds without the guy.

It's completely different with Manson. They had to have his big body laying hits, clearing the crease and making it difficult for the opponent. Avs would have been worse if Manson was out instead of G.

Except for pretty much all of G3, and through spurts of the rest of the series, no one but Makar was really attempting to skate to break the NZ trap (until G6 that is lol). That’s not to say that Toews and Byram couldn’t have done it, and there’s no real point in nitpicking; but Henchy pointed out that TB was definitely keying in on Toews and his side when they were coming in to the offensive zone.

The Avs’ identity is their speed and skating prowess. Now Sammy may not be with us much longer, but I’m not giving him away, and as much as I loved Manson, he’s a true 5 (who can play as a 4 in spurts). With the right team & partner, Sam CAN be a mid-to-low end 3, but is definitely a high end 3

 

[Avalanche2133]

Would be cool if they found a dance partner for a 1-for-1 or so with Girard and a 2C.

I’d like this as well…. A few I would have interest in are:
FLA-Reinhart

CHI-Dach

NJ-Mercer (already have Hischier and Hughes)

Det-Larkin

Seattle-Gourde
Wpg-Scheifele (would need to add tho to Sammy)

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Except for pretty much all of G3, and through spurts of the rest of the series, no one but Makar was really attempting to skate to break the NZ trap. That’s not to say that Toews and Byram couldn’t have done it, and there’s no real point in nitpicking; but Henchy pointed out that TB was definitely keying in on Toews and his side when they were coming in to the offensive zone.

The Avs’ identity is their speed and skating prowess. Now Sammy may not be with us much longer, but I’m not giving him away, and as much as I loved Manson, he’s a true 5 (who can play as a 4 in spurts). With the right team & partner, Sam CAN be a mid-to-low end 3, but is definitely a high end 3

Just to be clear. I do think G is the better player in a vacuum. However, the Avs blueline is already built in a way where its much more useful to have a big body who can play like Manson out there instead of a small PMD. It simply balances the group nicely and gives them better options for the PK and shutdown hockey.

 

[flyfysher]

Look I loved what Manson brought to the team, but to say he’s more valuable to the Avs than Girard is just not accurate.

If Tampa had been successful at trapping us in the NZ, we would have looked back at not having Sammy as a total detriment to our chances.

Tampa was not successful at trapping the Avs in the NZ so why are you bringing that up? FTR, I also would have agreed with you before the SCF series.

I'm okay with keeping Girard but the Avs indisputably proved they could adequately play in the SCF and win it without him.

 

[Goulet17]

As an aside, I do believe that we are on Chris McFarland watch. Friedman briefly discussed it in his podcast with Marek, in which they both indicated that they would not be surprised if Sakic takes a job upstairs with Kroenke Sports and McFarland assumes the GM role. I am expecting this as well.

I believe that Sakic will help finalize the Mack extension and likely the other UFA extensions or other signings, but by later in the summer or prior to camp, I believe an announcement will be made.

 

[Foppberg]

To me the off season plan should be based around bringing back as many of the guys as possible (Manson, Kadri, Nuke, maybe Kuemper) and running with this defense at least one last time. Yes we won without G for 50% of these playoffs but injuries happen and having elite depth matters.

 

[UncleRisto]

We swapping Maltsev for a different RFA?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I'd be interested in swapping G for a RHD that has a similar type of contract, but may be a bit more defensively focused. I brought up Matt Roy before, but he'd be an interesting target. LAK have a bunch of RHD and they don't have much in the way of puck moving. Maybe they've soured on Turcotte as well?

 

[Azrael89]

Jesus. Craig is never retiring.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Manson definitely is more valuable to the Avs than Girard. They are not winning the cup without Manson, but did just fine without G. If they lose him they need another similar Dman at least at the deadline to go for another cup.

The moment Bo goes down, our left side is non-existent. Avs shouldn't be trading G just for the sake of it. We still have EJ for another year on the right. Move G in a year when Bo needs a raise and we're forced to move G.