2022-2023 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[Xerloris]

Gulp

Time to secure bottom of the barrel.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

Starting Monday we have 13 games in 22 days, no 2 day breaks, 3 back to backs. 8 on the road, 5 at home. This is likely the most grueling section of our schedule and we're heading into it with a 6 game losing streak while being outscored 30-10. Sink or swim.

Assuming 96 points is required for the playoffs(also makes for nicer math). 90 points in the remaining 73 games would mean 16 points out of those 13 games. Could also end up entirely out of the playoff picture if the current trend continues.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Make sure you got your rum boys and girls. Your gonna need it.

 

[TheDizee]

do not worry, i will make GDT for Monday and inspire these losers to win. when i make GDT, Kyrou will a score hat trick

 

[Majorityof1]

do not worry, i will make GDT for Monday and inspire these losers to win. when i make GDT, Kyrou will a score hat trick

Oh good. Our problems are solved. I don't know why Armstrong bothered talking to the players when he could have just DM'd you, asking you to make GDTs.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Gulp

yup.. unless something drastically chances, not looking good

 

[PocketNines]

Assuming 96 points is required for the playoffs(also makes for nicer math). 90 points in the remaining 73 games would mean 16 points out of those 13 games. Could also end up entirely out of the playoff picture if the current trend continues.

96 is the same number I'm looking at since only one 96 point team has ever missed the playoffs, the 2015 Bruins.

Need 40-23-10 / 41-24-8 / 42-25-6 to get there right now, so they are indeed quickly using up runway with freefalling regulation losses.

Need .616 rest of the way to reach 96 points as of now (101 point pace)
Need .625 with 1 more reg loss (102.5 point pace)
Need .634 with 2 more reg losses (104 point pace)
Need .643 with 3 more reg losses (105 point pace)
Need .652 with 4 more reg losses (107 point pace)

It will not be too long before it becomes nearly impossible even with a turnaround.

 

[PocketNines]

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[Bye Bye Blueston]

How 14 teams fared in the 2010s

Team A 466 wins, 2 Cups
Team B 462 wins, 1 Cup
Team C 443 wins, 1 Cup
Team D 442 wins, 1 Cup
Team E 441 wins, 0 Cups
Team F 437 wins, 3 Cups
Team G 436 wins, 0 Cups
Team H 426 wins, 0 Cups
Team I 422 wins, 0 Cups
Team J 417 wins, 0 Cups
Team K 408 wins, 2 Cups
Team L 397 wins, 0 Cups
Team M 396 wins, 0 Cups
Team N 393 wins, 0 Cups

If you rank these 14 teams 1-14 on the basis of how they did in the 2010s, what is the justification for ranking Team C, the St. Louis Blues, 14th place on a list that "gives extra credit to Stanley Cup Champions," I wonder?

They ranked individual seasons. Our Cup team was ranked 14th, not entire franchise. If you are going to object to a ranking at least understand what you are complaining about.

 

[bleedblue1223]

96 is the same number I'm looking at since only one 96 point team has ever missed the playoffs, the 2015 Bruins.

Need 40-23-10 / 41-24-8 / 42-25-6 to get there right now, so they are indeed quickly using up runway with freefalling regulation losses.

Need .616 rest of the way to reach 96 points as of now (101 point pace)
Need .625 with 1 more reg loss (102.5 point pace)
Need .634 with 2 more reg losses (104 point pace)
Need .643 with 3 more reg losses (105 point pace)
Need .652 with 4 more reg losses (107 point pace)

It will not be too long before it becomes nearly impossible even with a turnaround.

Yeah, that's why I think the upcoming stretch mixed with some really good teams, decent teams, and bottom tier teams is crucial. If we assume losses against the likes of Boston, Vegas, and Colorado, then we have to basically take every point possible against the Sharks, Hawks, and Ducks. If we blow those 4 games, they will have to get a pretty significant winning streak to think about the playoffs.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Hey NHL, can us Blues fans get anymore of them hockey games? Like holy hell.

 

[HighNote]

Hey NHL, can us Blues fans get anymore of them hockey games? Like holy hell.

We won't have anymore 2 day breaks until November 29th-30th, so you will get your wish this month.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Hey NHL, can us Blues fans get anymore of them hockey games? Like holy hell.

I’ll check to see if they have any extras.

EDIT: Nope. All out.

 

[Majorityof1]

Hey NHL, can us Blues fans get anymore of them hockey games? Like holy hell.

Watch the games the Blues aren't playing. Its probably better hockey and the chance of a Blues win isn't that much lower than when they are playing..

 

[HighNote]

1st line: Buchnevich - Thomas - Tarasenko
2nd line: Schenn - Acciari - Pitlick
3rd line: Barbashev - O'Reilly - Toropchenko
4th line: Walker - Brown - Kyrou

If Saad is back:

1st line: Buchnevich - Thomas - Tarasenko
2nd line: Schenn - Acciari - Pitlick
3rd line: Saad - O'Reilly - Toropchenko
4th line: Walker - Barbashev - Kyrou

Earn your ice time.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

I used to look forward to watching Blues games.

Now I don't give a crap. I need entertainment that uplifts, not entertainment thay leads to despair.

 

[The Note]

I used to look forward to watching Blues games.

Now I don't give a crap. I need entertainment that uplifts, not entertainment thay leads to despair.

I say this sincerely as someone who took an extended break from this board and from stressing about catching every single Blues game for a huge stretch of last year: take a break if you are not enjoying it. It is supposed to be fun after all and if coming here, watching the games, reading articles and commentary is just making you miserable then cut back or stop. I know this can come off as dismissive or as "you're not a real fan" (which is something I hate) but I hope you consider it, if that is truly how you feel.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I’ve lost interest in this season. I think it has more to do with the Blues rarely playing and me being very busy that it does with the record. I’ve watched every game since EJ was drafted, including a lot of bad hockey. It never stopped me before.

I don’t think this team will suddenly start playing playoff worthy hockey, though. They’re putting Armstrong in a position where he HAS to sell. Not what I thought the preseason was leading to.

 

[PocketNines]

"BE KILLERS" energy is adjacent to quitter energy

 

[AjaxManifesto]

"BE KILLERS" energy is adjacent to quitter energy

KILLERS need a break, I guess

 

[PocketNines]

Kelly Chase must be stewing inside about Mitchell Miller "not getting a second chance." Probably gripes with Bobby Hull behind the scenes.

 

[Brian39]

Looking at the schedule, I wonder at what point Army has to make a more drastic decision. We have games against the Sharks, Hawks, and 2 against the Ducks, if those games go poorly, then something has to happen. The last game in that stretch is 11/21 against the Ducks. Also in that stretch we face either really good teams or teams with decent records like Boston, Colorado, Vegas, Philly, and Washington, so we should assume we are not coming away with many points from that group.

If we can't collect the vast majority of the available points in the Sharks/Hawks/Ducks games, then we'll be dangerously close to being in too deep of a hole to recover from. And we'd then be in a position that I posted about before where everything about the season went horribly wrong, pieces should be moved and we start thinking about next season.

I agree with @Stealth JD that there is no need to make a drastic decision at any point in the next couple months.

There is almost no chance that there is an available 'hockey trade' that would right a sinking ship. Teams aren't giving up stud roster players in exchange for our rentals. The guys on long term deals all have full NTCs and are mostly underperforming at the moment. Mid-season dollar-in-dollar-out deals are extremely difficult and we don't really have any players who are so good that a team is going to blown up their roster to fit that guy. I don't see this team being 'fixed' with a mid-season trade.

Berube isn't going anywhere. I think he has earned that long leash, but our opinions about it are irrelevant. Armhy publicly made it clear that the coach isn't going to take the bullet here. The goaltending has been far from the issue. This isn't like 2018/19 where the goalies are tanking games and you can shake things up with an AHL call up in that position.

I think the only 'drastic decision' to make is whether to sell/tank or let this group try to keep figuring it out. If you're selling, then there isn't much rush on it. If we find ourselves in that hole you mention, then Army can take his time trying to find the best deal for the assets we are selling. December generally isn't the height of the rental market. You can start exploring deals at that point, but no need to make a drastic decision.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I agree with @Stealth JD that there is no need to make a drastic decision at any point in the next couple months.

There is almost no chance that there is an available 'hockey trade' that would right a sinking ship. Teams aren't giving up stud roster players in exchange for our rentals. The guys on long term deals all have full NTCs and are mostly underperforming at the moment. Mid-season dollar-in-dollar-out deals are extremely difficult and we don't really have any players who are so good that a team is going to blown up their roster to fit that guy. I don't see this team being 'fixed' with a mid-season trade.

Berube isn't going anywhere. I think he has earned that long leash, but our opinions about it are irrelevant. Armhy publicly made it clear that the coach isn't going to take the bullet here. The goaltending has been far from the issue. This isn't like 2018/19 where the goalies are tanking games and you can shake things up with an AHL call up in that position.

I think the only 'drastic decision' to make is whether to sell/tank or let this group try to keep figuring it out. If you're selling, then there isn't much rush on it. If we find ourselves in that hole you mention, then Army can take his time trying to find the best deal for the assets we are selling. December generally isn't the height of the rental market. You can start exploring deals at that point, but no need to make a drastic decision.

Yeah, Army's decision on selling off or not will likely remain something only known internally for awhile, but he'd probably be laying the groundwork with other GMs to determine who would have interest in who, assigning scouts to various junior/college/pro teams for potential targets, etc. It's not like we'll see a Tarasenko trade by the end of November, but we could potentially see some of the moves being put into motion.

In the sense of my post, I'd considering Army laying that groundwork to be his significant decision, basically saying the season is more or less over, make a decision if we should keep any of the UFAs, and figure out who should be moved. Or is someone like Alexandrov worthy of a call up, not to save the season, but if he's more or less ready, get him more prepared for a role next season. Same with Tucker and Kessel who look like are having pretty good starts as well.

 

[Mike Liut]

I’ve lost interest in this season. I think it has more to do with the Blues rarely playing and me being very busy that it does with the record. I’ve watched every game since EJ was drafted, including a lot of bad hockey. It never stopped me before.

I don’t think this team will suddenly start playing playoff worthy hockey, though. They’re putting Armstrong in a position where he HAS to sell. Not what I thought the preseason was leading to.

A couple year rebuild wouldn’t be the end of the world. If we tank this year and sell our UFA’s, we’d be sitting pretty good for the future. It would put us with a top 5 pick this year plus a couple additional 1sts and a couple 2nds. Also, We better hope that Bolduc and Snuggs are really good and Kyrou emerges.

 

[bleedblue1223]

A couple year rebuild wouldn’t be the end of the world. If we tank this year and sell our UFA’s, we’d be sitting pretty good for the future. It would put us with a top 5 pick this year plus a couple additional 1sts and a couple 2nds. Also, We better hope that Bolduc and Snuggs are really good and Kyrou emerges.

Yeah, in theory, we picked a good year to suck. Maybe we finally go defense at the top to get the future #1 of the group or add another top forward, and if we add another 1st or 2 with our UFAs, then we can really get a nice prospect pool going with Bolduc Snuggs and these picks.

Although a quick look at a mock draft for 2023, doesn't look like many if any defensemen near the top with #1 potential.