Lots of good GMs in all sports never had success playing, heck some didn't even make it past playing as 10 year olds. Our next GM played club hockey in college, that's probably more than enough to succeed as he has. I think the days of just hiring good ole boys who went down certain paths for organization roles is ending and teams will be better for it.
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I'm not saying she won't be good I'm saying they felt the pressure to hire a woman in a management role after the Habs and the Canucks did in the last months.Or maybe she’s just capable of being a hockey executive
If it’s always a coincidence then how are women ever going to break into the industry.
If they would have done it earlier I'd have been 100% fine with it.
UncleRisto
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UncleRisto
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CharlesPuck
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Lol. Yes the only way a woman gets hired is because of pressure. No way it’s on merit.
How people still have these beliefs is baffling.
How people still have these beliefs is baffling.
So you think the other two just got promoted so it didn’t look like a PR stunt? IIRC this is the time the Leafs have always done their front office reshuffling.
Yup, it gets brought up around here quite often if Joe trades x because they signed a long-term contract a few years ago it’s going to affect future signings, he’ll get a bad rep, etc. when other GMs do ruthless moves like this and they have no issues attracting FAs or signing players long-term/at discounts.
It’s business. GMs do what’s best for the team.
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They most likely were too but I highly doubt they were feeling any pressure to do it like the Leafs did.
That said, it doesn't mean that women can't do the job people. Relax. I'm only questioning the motivation, not how good those hirings can be at their job.
If it opens the door in the future to hire the best person for the job regardless of gender then ultimately it's a good thing.
Ah, I see how you interpreted like that. I meant the other two other AGMs that got promoted at the same time in the Leafs FO.
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When will women getting jobs in sports stop being a PR move? Maybe we should just accept that they can also work in sports.
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The timing is obviously not coincidental for all three teams to move in this direction but Wickenheiser is a Canadian hockey legend in her own right and has been around the game her whole life. I don’t see any reason she can’t be equally or more effective than a lot of these guys that keep getting recycled around the league
Bill Peckerskull
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Without commenting the first paragraph cause I have no idea whether she was a good hire or not, bolded part is so true in everything. Always hire the best person, no matter what he/she/it/helicopter/whatever has or doesn't have between the legs.
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It's just common sense but apparently it's a controversial opinion.
Sorry, but if there is a helicopter applying for any job I'm doing the hiring for... the helicopter gets the job.
But come on... working with a helicopter! Imagine the buddy cop like time you'd have working!!!
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Eventually we have to get past the they hired the minority/woman/etc for PR thing. If that’s said every time a hire is made than the progress isn’t really being made.It's just common sense but apparently it's a controversial opinion.
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Obviously because I live here but Edmonton's.
They are IMO our biggest threat to more SCF appearances because of 97/29, but the rest of their team is not built well. They have 2 key RFAs and 2 key UFAs they'd like to re-sign on top of figuring out where to trade Puljujarvi and where to find a starting goalie.
All that with limited cap space. It will be interesting to watch unfold. If the summer goes poorly they may well be handing the division to LA/Vegas next season.
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I identify as an Apache helicopter so this is great news for me! Btw my pronoun is apache.
SoundwaveIsCharisma
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Would you be okay if I referred to you as "The Chopper"?
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