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Cody Webster said:
@DancingPanther for as long as I can remember, I've always had this issue, it happens very infrequently, but my outer knee area will lock, and then only unlock with an extension of the knee. Happened today while snorkeling. Any idea what it is. I don't think it's a normal thing. I looked it up before and it says it happens from like previous tares, but to my knowledge, I've never had an ACL/MCL tare.
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Tear that you know of!

Does it hurt? When it happens? Have you ever injured this knee at all?
 
Cody Webster said:
@DancingPanther for as long as I can remember, I've always had this issue, it happens very infrequently, but my outer knee area will lock, and then only unlock with an extension of the knee. Happened today while snorkeling. Any idea what it is. I don't think it's a normal thing. I looked it up before and it says it happens from like previous tares, but to my knowledge, I've never had an ACL/MCL tare.
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Perfect time to happen while in the water.
 
Cody Webster said:
@DancingPanther for as long as I can remember, I've always had this issue, it happens very infrequently, but my outer knee area will lock, and then only unlock with an extension of the knee. Happened today while snorkeling. Any idea what it is. I don't think it's a normal thing. I looked it up before and it says it happens from like previous tares, but to my knowledge, I've never had an ACL/MCL tare.
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This has happened to me multiple times, but in my specific case it's from Osteochondritis Dissecans. It's a joint condition where a piece of bone loses blood flow, falls off and then calcifies in the joint until it lodges itself somewhere. My knee would lock up for weeks at a time. Had to get two different arthroscopic surgeries for it.
 
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Cody Webster said:
@DancingPanther for as long as I can remember, I've always had this issue, it happens very infrequently, but my outer knee area will lock, and then only unlock with an extension of the knee. Happened today while snorkeling. Any idea what it is. I don't think it's a normal thing. I looked it up before and it says it happens from like previous tares, but to my knowledge, I've never had an ACL/MCL tare.
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I had a weird outer knee issue that would cause my knee to "lock up" and it would become pretty painful if I was doing repetitive motions. Took over three years, multiple PT cycles, and multiple scans. Eventually I saw a sports specialist orthopedic who said he had a theory and he was right.

Some how some of the Synovial Plica tissue got pulled out of place on the outside of my knee and got stuck between two bones. Essentially those two bones were "chewing" on that piece of tissue every time I moved. Surgery took like 40 minutes and it was fixed immediately. Just snipped off the piece that got caught and pushed the rest back in. Every so often I need to ice that knee after a lot of activity, but it doesn't stop me from doing what I want to do.

Whenever someone has a knee problem I always mention this because it was maddening trying to figure it out. They said it "never" happens to anyone on the outside of their knee, so in three years no one thought of it. So just incase they can't figure it out, maybe?

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Lord Defect said:
Less than 3% of those in the country illegally pick produce. There are means to acquire temporary worker status for farm work.
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Immigrants make up 70-75% of ALL Farmworkers with 45-50% being Undocumented/Illegal.

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DancingPanther said:
Tear that you know of!

Does it hurt? When it happens? Have you ever injured this knee at all?
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So, it happened this afternoon and still hurts now when bending it, but the pain usually goes away after a day. Like I said, this has been happening for a long as I can remember, but happens maybe once every few months. Never had any knee injuries, but I did play goalie for 20+ years.

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Perfect time to happen while in the water.
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Being in the water definitely helped. It was a quick kicking motion to unlock it. The worst is when I'm sitting down on the floor and it happens. Trying to unlock it slowly sucks.

Young Sandwich said:
This has happened to me multiple times, but in my specific case it's from Osteochondritis Dissecans. It's a joint condition where a piece of bone loses blood flow, falls off and then calcifies in the joint until it lodges itself somewhere. My knee would lock up for weeks at a time. Had to get two different arthroscopic surgeries for it.
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Weeks at a time!? That sounds absolutely awful. This is like a quick lock and a crack and it sorts itself out, but pain sticks around for a day or so.

Superman33 said:
I had a weird outer knee issue that would cause my knee to "lock up" and it would become pretty painful if I was doing repetitive motions. Took over three years, multiple PT cycles, and multiple scans. Eventually I saw a sports specialist orthopedic who said he had a theory and he was right.

Some how some of the Synovial Plica tissue got pulled out of place on the outside of my knee and got stuck between two bones. Essentially those two bones were "chewing" on that piece of tissue every time I moved. Surgery took like 40 minutes and it was fixed immediately. Just snipped off the piece that got caught and pushed the rest back in. Every so often I need to ice that knee after a lot of activity, but it doesn't stop me from doing what I want to do.

Whenever someone has a knee problem I always mention this because it was maddening trying to figure it out. They said it "never" happens to anyone on the outside of their knee, so in three years no one thought of it. So just incase they can't figure it out, maybe?

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Hmmm, sounds kind of similar, perhaps. You were/still are a goalie, right? Maybe it has something to do with that. Outside of this issue and the pain it causes, I've never had to ice my knee
 
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Cody Webster said:
Hmmm, sounds kind of similar, perhaps. You were/still are a goalie, right? Maybe it has something to do with that. Outside of this issue and the pain it causes, I've never had to ice my knee
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That is correct. I stopped playing regularly around 2007 and then little at all after 2010, but I first noticed the knee thing in 2011-2012. Could have been wear and tear over the years and eventually something "gave way", but I vividly remember the moment I first noticed the issue.

I was on the way back to my classroom after playing a bunch of middle schooler's in basketball. We could pick up some extra money running after school intramurals for the students, so a few times a year I'd stay afterschool, make some money, and just crush these kids in things like floor hockey, ultimate Frisbee, and basketball. My classroom was on the opposite side of the school as the gym, so I had a long walk back after wrecking these kids and my knee started to lock up. I messed with it all the way back to my room, but it was down hill from there... for three years.

I didn't remember any specific injury on that day while we were playing, but there is a good chance I was so in the zone trouncing those kids that I missed it.
 
Cody Webster said:
@DancingPanther for as long as I can remember, I've always had this issue, it happens very infrequently, but my outer knee area will lock, and then only unlock with an extension of the knee. Happened today while snorkeling. Any idea what it is. I don't think it's a normal thing. I looked it up before and it says it happens from like previous tares, but to my knowledge, I've never had an ACL/MCL tare.
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NAD, However I have had multiple knee injuries in my beer league hockey career, and one incident in which I attempted to gauge my landspeed by running through a speed limit sign on the side of the road after leaving the local watering hole. Throughout the last decade, I've experienced multiple ACL, MCL and mensicus tears. This to me sounds like a torn meniscus.

The locking specifically is something that I experienced about a year and a half ago. I have a torn ACL and meniscus in my right knee that needed surgery. From my understanding it was a part of the meniscus getting caught and being crunched on. The doctors would likely recommend a repair or removal based on your level of activity and your recovery goal.

I had a removal which resulted in about a 6 week recovery time, however I was up against a deadline of taking the kids on a trip to Disney World we already booked, and I didn't want to be down for another 9 months so i opted to leave the torn acl alone and just do the meniscus ...i had a lot of pain after surgery on the meniscus and though i was able to play hockey again about 2 months later, it didn't really regain a normal feeling until last season.

If you want to avoid surgery - check out Knees Over Toes Guy on youtube.
 
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Rebels57 said:
Immigrants make up 70-75% of ALL Farmworkers with 45-50% being Undocumented/Illegal.

Farm Labor | Economic Research Service

The Farm Labor topic page presents data and analysis on the size and composition of the U.S. agricultural workforce; recent trends in the employment of hired farmworkers; farmworkers' demographic characteristics, legal status, and migration practices; trends in wages and labor cost shares; and...
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Farmers themselves said it was going to have a large impact..

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Trump's Mass Deportation Plan Could Keep Food Off American's Plates, Farming Industry Warns

Nearly half of farm workers lack legal status and there are concerns what that will mean to the industry if Trump's plans to deport millions of migrants.
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Cody Webster said:
So, it happened this afternoon and still hurts now when bending it, but the pain usually goes away after a day. Like I said, this has been happening for a long as I can remember, but happens maybe once every few months. Never had any knee injuries, but I did play goalie for 20+ years.



Being in the water definitely helped. It was a quick kicking motion to unlock it. The worst is when I'm sitting down on the floor and it happens. Trying to unlock it slowly sucks.



Weeks at a time!? That sounds absolutely awful. This is like a quick lock and a crack and it sorts itself out, but pain sticks around for a day or so.



Hmmm, sounds kind of similar, perhaps. You were/still are a goalie, right? Maybe it has something to do with that. Outside of this issue and the pain it causes, I've never had to ice my knee
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Idk man. It definitely sounds tendon-y, but it's very odd that it happens so rarely. I wonder if it's like a calf muscle cramp or something where when it seizes up it pulls on the connective tissue in your knee.

If it was a wear and tear injury it would happen more often I feel like. Maybe you have a foreign body in there floating around and when it gets to that perfect location it cogs up the gears.

No way to know without imaging, and there's no way to get imaging done without money
 
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In the event something happens to me or my family it was the guy down the street.

Sitting at the end of the street (like I do every day waiting for bus) and he rolls down his window and tells me I’m in the middle of the street while I’m up against the curb and at the stop sign with my hazards on.

We proceed to exchange some pleasantries.

At face value, on a normal street I shouldn’t be close to the stop sign but our street has a probably fifteen foot shoulder before getting to the lane. I don’t think I’ve seen one person stop short of the stop sign in my entire time living here to get on to the road.


Asked my neighbor who that could be and he said “sounds like guy at end of cul de sac, he’s got a whole history. Guns, drugs, he’s had issues with all of it.”

So after eight years of not interacting with this guy, off we go.
 
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DancingPanther said:
How does this even happen in era of air traffic control? Are armed forces aircraft not in comms with the plebian airports or something?
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Apparently rotorcraft and airplane communications are on two different frequencies, so they weren't hearing each other talking to the tower. The chopper was told to maintain visible clearance from the plane, but appears to have disregarded the instructions.
 
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How does this even happen in era of air traffic control? Are armed forces aircraft not in comms with the plebian airports or something?
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From my brother-in-law (a military helicopter pilot):

The understanding is there is a military route that is commonly used but they're supposed to remain below 200 ft it happens all the time that people will try to avoid something and accidentally climb up above that. It looks like the accident occurred while the helicopter was at 350 ft while ATC was telling smaller jets to circle to land on the runway where the incursion happened.

Basically pilot's crapping out on the training and not using the tools that they have.

Thank you for joining my TED talk that will be all for today.
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