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SoundwaveIsCharisma said:
I'd say it's the ability to accelerate and the ability to attack and maintain speed with the puck. That's what makes McDavid so dangerous, he's very fast, but there's probably faster skaters than him out there. However, his ability to handle the puck at speed, and the way he always attacks with speed is the best in the league. That's also why very physically gifted guys like Crouse and Burakovsky who have size and speed aren't nearly as effective as you think they would be. Those guys have to reduce their speed to handle the puck, they have to slow down to make decisions, they hang onto the puck a little too long and eliminate themselves from plays.
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I mostly agree but I'd say MacKinnon might have better acceleration than even McDavid. Blue line to blue line, I wouldn't be surprised if MacKinnon wins most of the time against McDavid.

I'd say MacKinnon and McDavid play with the most functional speed in the NHL. Measuring top speed doesn't mean a whole lot. That skills competition means even less. When you watch a hockey game, when does Larkin ever take your breath away like MacKinnon and McDavid? Never.

I think the combination of things you're describing is often described in football as functional speed. And I agree with the vast majority of your comment.

I'd say you can also mention, strength, balance, and agility.

MacKinnon and McDavid each have a lengthy portfolio of plays where there's more to it than speed. It's the qualities you mentioned and the ability to finish at the end.

Some guys who are only fast end up with a lot of "oh, that was almost a goal!" There are maybe three guys in the league who have the whole package and can routinely tie it all together.
 
Landeskog Calrissian said:
I mostly agree but I'd say MacKinnon might have better acceleration than even McDavid. Blue line to blue line, I wouldn't be surprised if MacKinnon wins most of the time against McDavid.

I'd say MacKinnon and McDavid play with the most functional speed in the NHL. Measuring top speed doesn't mean a whole lot. That skills competition means even less. When you watch a hockey game, when does Larkin ever take your breath away like MacKinnon and McDavid? Never.

I think the combination of things you're describing is often described in football as functional speed. And I agree with the vast majority of your comment.

I'd say you can also mention, strength, balance, and agility.

MacKinnon and McDavid each have a lengthy portfolio of plays where there's more to it than speed. It's the qualities you mentioned and the ability to finish at the end.

Some guys who are only fast end up with a lot of "oh, that was almost a goal!" There are maybe three guys in the league who have the whole package and can routinely tie it all together.
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I think one of the biggest differences from MacKinnon and McDavid is that MacK tends to move in with speed and then buttonhook. One of the things I've been critical of with MacKinnon is that he could be more aggressive backing teams off and attacking the net. That's one thing that McDavid does really well, he backs teams off and catches them on their back foot with how aggressive he uses his speed in the offensive zone.
 
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dahrougem2 said:
Fairly different circumstance no? Lol Brown got his pulled after two cup wins.
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Yeah certainly different circumstances, but Brown wasn't the first or last in that situation either. My overall point is that pulling of his captaincy doesn't change the impact he had on that organization. He was the first central, core piece of the rebuild that lead to two Cups where he was the captain of both. That's a pretty big legacy to have. Getting stripped of the captaincy doesn't change how important he was to the franchise.
 
Chiarelli said:
Is Dustin Brown really “build a statue to commemorate his career” worthy?

Didn’t he have his captaincy removed quite some time ago? Not sure the circumstances...

Who else from the last 10-20 years that’s retired would have a statue made of them? Just for reference.
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It's really weird for a guy that is not even close to be a HoF.

To me the gradation should be HoF then Jersey retired (not often) then Statue (exceptional).
 
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Metallo said:
It's really weird for a guy that is not even close to be a HoF.

To me the gradation should be HoF then Jersey retired (not often) then Statue (exceptional).
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then jersey number retired by the league.

pretty curious what our rafters will look like in 20 years.
 
Metallo said:
It's really weird for a guy that is not even close to be a HoF.

To me the gradation should be HoF then Jersey retired (not often) then Statue (exceptional).
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Wish our criteria for jersey retirement were tougher. The only jerseys retired should've been Sakic, Forsberg and Roy. At the current criteria we're going to be retiring Erik Johnson's number.
 
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Chiarelli said:
Is Dustin Brown really “build a statue to commemorate his career” worthy?

Didn’t he have his captaincy removed quite some time ago? Not sure the circumstances...

Who else from the last 10-20 years that’s retired would have a statue made of them? Just for reference.
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Yep it was stripped from him and given to Kopitar, who by all rights was the de facto captain the whole time.

Someone on NHL Radio (Helene Elliott I think) said she asked Brown about Sutter’s dissatisfaction with his game, Brown said he usually gets more physical and engaged as the season goes on. When told this, Sutter replied “The season’s going on now.”

One of the laziest, dumbest talents in NHL history. Sutter and Lombardi once leaked a trade call involving him to see if it would piss him off and motivate him. It did. For that stretch they actually got to see what it looked like when he gave a f***. He went on a pretty big tear IIRC.

I’d be more sympathetic if he wasn’t also dirty AF. One of the few times I’m glad a longtime NHLer is hanging them up. Actually no, I kinda wish he would stick around another season because he’d make the Kings worse.

But hey, please, go and build a statue for him.
 
henchman24 said:
It is from the tracking chips in the jerseys... so pretty damn accurate. Funny enough though, +/- is still made by the stats guy watching from upstairs even though they have these chips. :laugh:

Necas can actually fly when he gets going, but his first couple steps are rather poor (his technique is rather poor... if he had more ankle bend and eliminated the heel kick, he'd probably have a great first few steps).
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How would the computer decide who gets the plus on those god-awful line changes where there are six (or more) skaters on the ice when the puck goes in. o_O
Or worse...are they going to farm out the too-many men on the ice to the chip technology. :eek2:
 
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expatriatedtexan said:
How would the computer decide who gets the plus on those god-awful line changes where there are six (or more) skaters on the ice when the puck goes in. o_O
Or worse...are they going to farm out the too-many men on the ice to the chip technology. :eek2:
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expatriatedtexan said:
How would the computer decide who gets the plus on those god-awful line changes where there are six (or more) skaters on the ice when the puck goes in. o_O
Or worse...are they going to farm out the too-many men on the ice to the chip technology. :eek2:
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The league is going in the wrong direction with all of this. They want to catch every infraction, no matter how small and meaningless an impact towards the goal.

Someone's foot is a centimeter over the line, the goal is called off. The stick is a centimeter too high, the goal is called off. A guy jumped on the ice too early before he beat three guys all by himself, the goal is called off.

Nobody is paying or watching games to see the league call off goals. Especially in situations where the "infraction" had little to no impact on the goal being scored.

Just go back to letting linesmen make most of the calls in real time, unless you have an egregious Duchene situation, or the goal was in the net and you didn't see it.
 
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Yeah, I get that the technology is there, but I also agree with Foppa, that we really need to ask how nit-picky we want to be. Personally, as I'm a fan of always saying, call the gosh-darn (not really, but I thought I'd let this post be PG) rule book the way it is written...I'd like to see some of these things changed. Off-sides, bad line changes...those should be worded to say that they are a penalty if deemed to have impacted the play on the ice by the officials. I really hate leaving the calls to the officials to make a personal decision on in snap situation, but that's what we are already doing, so we might as well make it official so we show the officials we've got their back on this...but only use it when necessary.

[Edit...Things I'd like to see them use the technology for is calling a goal. The chip knows it went in the net and over the goal-line, let it signal the goal lamp and horn. Eventually, I'd love a stream broadcast that allowed viewers to toggle things like player names/jersey numbers, puck speed, player speed, TOI, Matchups, etc...as deep as you wish and then when you go in to watch you get those overlays. I noticed ESPN+ had a feed that showed the game on the top two thirds of the screen but the bottom third showed who was on ice for both teams and their TOI. I think it was in conjection with some betting scheme most likely but that got me thinking about how it could be used by viewers if unlockable.]
 
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Alienblood said:
just found out Seider dates Claude Lemieux's daughter
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He doesn't. He has a girlfriend and she is a German Olympic athlete, Anna Seidel.

She was even there with him at the NHL awards. Lemieux is his agent who was there as well. You probably have mistaken her as Anna was sitting next to Claude.
 
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