Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4

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Just a quick FYI he is not and never will be an Ovechkin not to mention nobody said anything about going mindlessly to the net. Watch a certain #7 with the Sens own the net. He makes plays from behind in front and from both sides. He needs to start doing the things a goal scoring POWER FORWARD does on a regular basis. Drive the net open lanes and dominate down low. This is what he can bring to the table to begin with. It's not like doing it will kill his skill all of a sudden.
Why? Slaf seems to be a pretty dynamic forward. He has a great shot, passes well, skates well, is agile, has good board play. Why would he forego those skills solely to play in front of the net. I know people see big forward and think they need to be a power forward, but it's a really silly box to place someone in.

Slaf should play in a way that maximizes the offensive skills he has. Having him set in front of the net, not using his shot or passing ability is a waste.
 
With Monahan and Anderson on the line?

I think the going to the net is already covered... he should try and make plays on that line.
LOL Neither Anderson nor Monahan will camp out around the net. One of the easiest aspects of becomng a power forward is learning where and how to camp-out around the net. Unless you don't think we drafted him to become that guy? With his hands he should be able to create all kind of havoc down low and in close. We got this guy to SCORE GOALS like he did in the Olympics. It was his finishing that caught peoples attention not his playmaking. You can go ahead and punch me in the face if we try to turn Slaf into a finesse player.
 
Why? Slaf seems to be a pretty dynamic forward. He has a great shot, passes well, skates well, is agile, has good board play. Why would he forego those skills solely to play in front of the net. I know people see big forward and think they need to be a power forward, but it's a really silly box to place someone in.

Slaf should play in a way that maximizes the offensive skills he has. Having him set in front of the net, not using his shot or passing ability is a waste.
He needs to do both obviously but the lower hanging fruit will be found in and around the net. Nobody is asking him to forego anything the dude isn't the second coming of Adam Oates and never will be. He does have some finesse but the best we can hope for on the upside is a TJ Oshie type of player.
 
I think you're selling his skill short. Dude's a very good passer/playmaker from what I've seen. I really don't know what the finesse/power ratio will be in his game when he finds his groove but he's got plenty of room for both. Might be too much finesse for you but I think you'll manage ;)
 
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I think you're selling his skill short. Dude's a very good passer/playmaker from what I've seen. I really don't know what the finesse/power ratio will be in his game when he finds his groove but he's got plenty of room for both. Might be too much finesse for you but I think you'll manage ;)
I don't think I'm selling his skills short at all. What I'm actually saying is he will be best served using his natural attributes to his advantage and go from there. I'm also not overrating his skillset and IQ and he certainly hasn't shown a high rate of playmaking success yet.
 
1st line: Sudafield
2nd line: Slaf-Monahan-Anderson
3rd line: Hoffman-Dvo-Gally
4th line: 3 of Evans, Daddy, Armia, Pezzetta, Pitlick, Richard

I would like to see MSL tey that. It's a good start.

But I don't think Anderson's proper seat is with two offensive talents like Slaf and Monahan. I think he's better suited with a Gallagher level player. Though Hoffman has been red hot. So the Hoff-gally duo will likely stay intact to see if they can continue to produce. I have my doubts and would put Anderson back with Gally.
 
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I don't think I'm selling his skills short at all. What I'm actually saying is he will be best served using his natural attributes to his advantage and go from there. I'm also not overrating his skillset and IQ and he certainly hasn't shown a high rate of playmaking success yet.
You really think his upside is Oshie? I mean that wouldn't be the worst. he's great all in all but his ceiling?
 
Slaf is a skill player. telling him to go to the net mindlessly just because he's big would be the same thing as telling someone like Ovechkin to do that. It's a waste.

Of course ALL forwards should spend some time in front of the net, but that shouldn't be his primary thing.
I don't think its totally wrong. I think slafkovsky can be used in multiple ways and and being a netfront presence does make some sense. Yes he has his big-ness but he also has his long reach which could be pretty helpful in getting those rebounds to score some dirty goals. It definitely shouldn't be done all the time but I can see it being very usefull against teams with small-ish defenders.
 
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On BPM sports today Matthias Brunet said he was going to write a billet this morning mentioning that the WJC was out of question for Slaf in his opinion, then made some calls to confirm it and has apparently been told that it was in fact a legit option. They will probably wait till the last minute to annonce if he goes or not.
 
We got this guy to SCORE GOALS like he did in the Olympics. It was his finishing that caught peoples attention not his playmaking.
Absolutely not. Olympics were the deviation. After the Olympics, it was real Slaf. His games in Liiga, playoffs and World Champs for Slovakia. His natural style would be like 3/7 or 4/6 goals/assists ratio.
 


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They are Freeing him. You gotta want to be a star in this league with the skills he has. If you don't keep him hungry how will you surround him with a growth-style environment. Like every other Hall-of-Fame candidate Juraj is being brought along. Juraj is playing 4th line minutes like he should in order to not only become accustomed to the league but to teach him the lesson all Greats have learned at his age ( besides McD Gretz Lemy and Orr "sorry Brodeur" )
 
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They are Freeing him. You gotta want to be a star in this league with the skills he has. If you don't keep him hungry how will you surround him with a growth-style environment. Like every other Hall-of-Fame candidate Juraj is being brought along. Juraj is playing 4th line minutes like he should in order to not only become accustomed to the league but to teach him the lesson all Greats have learned at his age ( besides McD Gretz Lemy and Orr "sorry Brodeur" )
Ovi and Crosby jumped straight to 100+ seasons as well. ;)
 
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Just a quick FYI he is not and never will be an Ovechkin not to mention nobody said anything about going mindlessly to the net. Watch a certain #7 with the Sens own the net. He makes plays from behind in front and from both sides. He needs to start doing the things a goal scoring POWER FORWARD does on a regular basis. Drive the net open lanes and dominate down low. This is what he can bring to the table to begin with. It's not like doing it will kill his skill all of a sudden.
He's not Ovechkin (or Tkachuk for that matter), but that wasn't the point. The point was that you don't try to fit a square peg into a round hole, trying to shove a pigeonhole a player to the front of the net just because he's big. There isn't the slightest indication that he's a net-front presence in his whole body of work. Playing a skill guy in front of the net randomly would be a Michel Therrien/Sylvain Lefebvre move. "We are a grinding team."

I do not agree with your assessment that Oshie is his ceiling. Oshie is maybe where he could be in the mid-range. A first overall turning into Oshie would be quite disappointing in my view, but they're completely different players anyway (the size diference alone...) Rantanen is his ceiling, and that's coming from someone that doesn't even like the pick in the first place.

I don't think its totally wrong. I think slafkovsky can be used in multiple ways and and being a netfront presence does make some sense. Yes he has his big-ness but he also has his long reach which could be pretty helpful in getting those rebounds to score some dirty goals. It definitely shouldn't be done all the time but I can see it being very usefull against teams with small-ish defenders.
While I think standing in the general vicinity of the net is something all NHL forwards should do at some point in order to get rebounds, I see nothing in Slafkovsky's past to indicate he's a net-front player. Being big and having reach do not magically turn you into Tomas Holmstrom. You have to work with what brought the player to the dance, not try to have him do something he's never done because size.
 
Absolutely not. Olympics were the deviation. After the Olympics, it was real Slaf. His games in Liiga, playoffs and World Champs for Slovakia. His natural style would be like 3/7 or 4/6 goals/assists ratio.
We shall see. There is still a long runwayhead of him. The stats from those leagues are often quite irrelevant in North America. I still think finisher from what I've seen thus far.
 
He's not Ovechkin (or Tkachuk for that matter), but that wasn't the point. The point was that you don't try to fit a square peg into a round hole, trying to shove a pigeonhole a player to the front of the net just because he's big. There isn't the slightest indication that he's a net-front presence in his whole body of work. Playing a skill guy in front of the net randomly would be a Michel Therrien/Sylvain Lefebvre move. "We are a grinding team."

I do not agree with your assessment that Oshie is his ceiling. Oshie is maybe where he could be in the mid-range. A first overall turning into Oshie would be quite disappointing in my view, but they're completely different players anyway (the size diference alone...) Rantanen is his ceiling, and that's coming from someone that doesn't even like the pick in the first place.


While I think standing in the general vicinity of the net is something all NHL forwards should do at some point in order to get rebounds, I see nothing in Slafkovsky's past to indicate he's a net-front player. Being big and having reach do not magically turn you into Tomas Holmstrom. You have to work with what brought the player to the dance, not try to have him do something he's never done because size.
Whatthe heck are you on about. Slaf HAS to start somewhere. Thus far he has demonstrated very little ability reading or making plays in this league. If and when he gets better linemates that may change. But his job right now is simple use his size to his advantage. That means driving the net and creating space for his team mates using his touch in front of around and behind the net to create offense. I will be quite happy if he turns out as good as TJ Oshie. We haven't drafted a super star.
 
Whatthe heck are you on about. Slaf HAS to start somewhere. Thus far he has demonstrated very little ability reading or making plays in this league. If and when he gets better linemates that may change. But his job right now is simple use his size to his advantage. That means driving the net and creating space for his team mates using his touch in front of around and behind the net to create offense. I will be quite happy if he turns out as good as TJ Oshie. We haven't drafted a super star.
And another poster said he’d be quite happy if he ended up like Pierre Engvall. Nothing wrong with setting the bar real low.

If you put tonight’s two linemates’ total production this season you have a grand total of 1 point (1 assist to be more precise). Neither has ever produced in Juniors and probably not even in Bantam and Atom. Evans is minus-6. There’s just so much you can expect from anyone under those circumstances.
 
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