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Yea it might be time for Ryu to be skipped. He’s been absolute trash.of course it’s our ace and most expensive pitcher that’s been brutal
 
Yeah Ryu is bad vibes. But for real I’m gonna be stoned af for the rest of this ride boyos.
 
Eyedea said:
Realistically he shouldn’t get top 10 votes based on pitching value alone but because he hits on his off days he’ll get extra points from the judges.
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If you separated his hitting and pitching hes not an MVP. But the fact that hes excelled in both absolutely makes him the most valuable player in baseball. It's insane what hes done. It's really never been done. I want Vladdy to win it as much as anyone else, but Vladdy just isnt as valuable.
 
Ryu has just been totally garbage recently, hope he hasn't completely fallen off as were stuck with him for 2 more years...one thing is for sure that it's gonna be a wild finish boys!
 
Man Bear Pig said:
If you separated his hitting and pitching hes not an MVP. But the fact that hes excelled in both absolutely makes him the most valuable player in baseball. It's insane what hes done. It's really never been done. I want Vladdy to win it as much as anyone else, but Vladdy just isnt as valuable.
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I was referring to the CYA. He’s at 10 in terms of bWAR and 17 in fWAR. Of course he’s the favourite for the MVP but legitimately I don’t see him as a CYA candidate. He’ll get top 10 votes but I don’t see him as being all that deserving due to his limitations (innings).
 
Shouldn't have said the Twins shouldn't be treated like an auto-win team. I jinxed them, lol.
 
Man Bear Pig said:
He has no point. It's a ridiculous argument. He's a Cy Young candidate and one of the best hitters in baseball. How many players have done what Ohtani has done? The argument that a player isn't an MVP because their team missed the playoffs is ridiculous to me.
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One of the best homerun hitters in baseball, sure. Otherwise, no.
 
Anyone wonder how the Red Sox are so good? I am not impressed at all with the team they have, yet they just win.
 
Springer ain’t right. Batting .167 in the last 9 games. That at-bat signifies part of his problem…he’s not hitting balls either inside or outside of the strike zone. We need him to contribute more.
 
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Not a fan of Buck kind of backhandedly suggesting that either Jays fans don't know baseball history or that they're somehow baseball illiterate enough to not appreciate the talent level of this team's young stars.

That's suspiciously close to sounding like some Harold Reynolds in the playoffs level of presumptive ignorance around Canadian/Blue Jays baseball fans.
 
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