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Buck is such a moronic, old school guy. As if Ohtani can make the Angels a playoff team on his own. If you're pinning your playoff Hope's on one single player in baseball, you're doing it wrong.
 
You wasted a full season of Hatch by reserving him as a emergency starter. May as well actually use him now.

Go with Hatch as the 5th starter and give Ryu like ten days off and hope he can figure it out.
 
Man Bear Pig said:
Buck is such a moronic, old school guy. As if Ohtani can make the Angels a playoff team on his own. If you're pinning your playoff Hope's on one single player in baseball, you're doing it wrong.
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Buck should love Ohtani. Because he's the only player in the league that's collecting Wins and RBIs. That makes him, like, doubly valuable. :sarcasm:
 
The Nemesis said:
Buck should love Ohtani. Because he's the only player in the league that's collecting Wins and RBIs. That makes him, like, doubly valuable. :sarcasm:
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Plus Pat said he's got big, strong hands. He's a triple threat. Wins, RBI's and strong hands. The real triple crown.
 
Man Bear Pig said:
Buck is such a moronic, old school guy. As if Ohtani can make the Angels a playoff team on his own. If you're pinning your playoff Hope's on one single player in baseball, you're doing it wrong.
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I think his point is that Ohtani's impact has been overstated. He's the front runner, but we aren't talking a 10 WAR nightmare on both sides.
 
Bjindaho said:
I think his point is that Ohtani's impact has been overstated. He's the front runner, but we aren't talking a 10 WAR nightmare on both sides.
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He has no point. It's a ridiculous argument. He's a Cy Young candidate and one of the best hitters in baseball. How many players have done what Ohtani has done? The argument that a player isn't an MVP because their team missed the playoffs is ridiculous to me.
 
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He has no point. It's a ridiculous argument. He's a Cy Young candidate and one of the best hitters in baseball. How many players have done what Ohtani has done? The argument that a player isn't an MVP because their team missed the playoffs is ridiculous to me.
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He's not close to a Cy Young candidate. It would be arguable if he had more innings. You gotta pitch to be a candidate.
 
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He's not close to a Cy Young candidate. It would be arguable if he had more innings. You gotta pitch to be a candidate.
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He's definitely a candidate. I never said he'd win. He won't because of the lack of innings. Nonetheless, you cannot make the argument to me that he's undeserving of the MVP. What else could he do to make his team better?
 
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He's definitely a candidate. I never said he'd win. He won't because of the lack of innings. Nonetheless, you cannot make the argument to me that he's undeserving of the MVP. What else could he do to make his team better?
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Realistically he shouldn’t get top 10 votes based on pitching value alone but because he hits on his off days he’ll get extra points from the judges.
 
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