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Speculation: 2021-22 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster discussion part III

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Honestly, it is time to evolve a little with this development. It's been fine slow cooking this build but they need to take a step here and start giving some of these guys a chance and putting them in positions to succeed. I never want to see Kaliyev on the bottom 6. He is a top 6 sniper or bust. Arvidsson should be cemented on Kopitar or Byfield's wing and Kaliyev will one day possess the other while Brown anchors the bottom 6. It is time to use our youth, speed, and skill in an effective manner.
 
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FSL KINGS said:
Caps in a pinch with OV's contract up & NYI clearing close to 20M in the last week. How do we feel about Orlov? 5.1M X 2 years, UFA. Term not great, would need to extend next summer.
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I was thinking along the Same lines but with Dillon. Wasn't it rumored that we were after him before he signed with Washington? 3.9 mil for 3 more years
 
illegal_stick said:
It's true. I know everyone here hates on him for whatever reason (no need to reply with why, don't care) but I listened to the podcast before the draft and he was the only one I heard mention MacD and he talked about and said that he had heard from insiders that it may very well be him. You've got to give credit where it's due on this one, even if you hate the guy. Having Wagner at 27% and MacD at 23% doesn't make him wrong. Means they were the two they were considering the most. He knocked it out of the park on this. For God's sake, there was a Twitter account dedicated to convincing Seattle to take MacD (which was great) that's how much of a joke it seemed last week.
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Does it make him right? I already said he gets credit for putting MacDermid that high but, again, he had a different player as the guy he believed would be picked.

Technically, he was wrong since Wagner wasn't the pick but since the majority of people didn't think it would be MacD, he gets credit for putting him second on his list. If he put Grundstrom second on his list and that was the pick, nobody would be saying "Hoven nailed it!"
 
Is Gostisbehere that bad now? Is there something about him we don't know?

A 28yo LHD. 2 year 4.5M contract. Scored at an 18 goal pace this season. How is his value this negative?

Receiving assets to take on his contract is a risk I would have happily seen the Kings take.
 
BigKing said:
Does it make him right? I already said he gets credit for putting MacDermid that high but, again, he had a different player as the guy he believed would be picked.

Technically, he was wrong since Wagner wasn't the pick but since the majority of people didn't think it would be MacD, he gets credit for putting him second on his list. If he put Grundstrom second on his list and that was the pick, nobody would be saying "Hoven nailed it!"
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Hoven absolutely deserves some credit. If you asked 10 other people to list the top-3 most likely to be taken, I would be willing to be that not one of them would have listed McD in the top 3. They would all have been some varying order of Wagner, Grundstrom and Clague.

I also don't think you can discount Hoven for possibly thinking, "What I've heard makes me think McD is most likely, but that seems so non-sensical to most that I'll list the slightly more sensible pick just ahead of him."

Need more? Look at the response yesterday to the leak it was McD - nobody believed it could be true and most expected that we had to pay a draft pick for it to happen.

If anyone else had been saying it was a possibility, maybe I could get behind you. But Hoven is the ONLY person (that I've seen) who even listed McD as remotely likely to be picked. For that, he deserves credit!
 
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johnjm22 said:
Is Gostisbehere that bad now? Is there something about him we don't know?

A 28yo LHD. 2 year 4.5M contract. Scored at an 18 goal pace this season. How is his value this negative?

Receiving assets to take on his contract is a risk I would have happily seen the Kings take.
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He was on waivers not long ago and now traded with a pick for nothing in return. Gotta be something wrong with him.
 
johnjm22 said:
Is Gostisbehere that bad now? Is there something about him we don't know?

A 28yo LHD. 2 year 4.5M contract. Scored at an 18 goal pace this season. How is his value this negative?

Receiving assets to take on his contract is a risk I would have happily seen the Kings take.
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What if that would've potentially made the Kings better this year though? A 2nd rd pick is no sure bet. What if Ghost pulled a Willsie?
 
bouncesonly said:
Kings finally get their 15th overall selection from the 2010 draft? LA Kings reportedly willing to take on Vladimir Tarasenko's contract
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The Kings have had success taking on Justin Williams and Willie Mitchell, previously “injury-prone” players. Tarasenko is just the kind of game breaker that the Kings have been missing for years. He’s a threat every time he touches the puck in the offensive zone. Will he show up in good health? If so, this could be a difference-maker ala Gaborik. If not, the Kings could end up with another Kovalchuk.
 
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jimmy1100 said:
Hoven absolutely deserves some credit. If you asked 10 other people to list the top-3 most likely to be taken, I would be willing to be that not one of them would have listed McD in the top 3. They would all have been some varying order of Wagner, Grundstrom and Clague.

I also don't think you can discount Hoven for possibly thinking, "What I've heard makes me think McD is most likely, but that seems so non-sensical to most that I'll list the slightly more sensible pick just ahead of him."

Need more? Look at the response yesterday to the leak it was McD - nobody believed it could be true and most expected that we had to pay a draft pick for it to happen.

If anyone else had been saying it was a possibility, maybe I could get behind you. But Hoven is the ONLY person (that I've seen) who even listed McD as remotely likely to be picked. For that, he deserves credit!
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Yes. He gets credit. I've said that in every post about it. I'm not going to agree, however, with "Hoven nailed it!!!" Stuff like that just furthers the plague on this board that is "Hoven said x so this is what is happening".
 
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If Tarasenko had much value, Seattle would have taken him and used him to trade now or at TDL. They easily could have retained too making it more enticing for a contender. StL will need to pony up in some way (retain or attaching a pick) to unload him this off-season.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
You'd get him to use him. He's not a cap dump.
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The Ryan Smyth of Blake's rebuild.

That -7 in 24 games isn't terribly exciting. ~48 point pace is fine but only a ~14 goal pace last season. If the shoulder is good and with something to prove, you'd hope that improves.
 
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