Speculation: 2021-21 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster discussion part V

[johnjm22]

I still catch myself calling the farm team Manchester.

So this transition to Crypto.com Arena is going to be difficult for me.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I still catch myself calling the farm team Manchester.

So this transition to Crypto.com Arena is going to be difficult for me.

So true, gonna be tough to wrap my head around this for a long time

 

[kingsfan]

Kings need another stay at home tough D man, not another soft puck mover.

Edler and Maata are UFA's - these are the only NHL D under contract for next season.

Doughty-Anderson
Bjornfot-Roy
Walker-Clague

If Clague keeps playing well, Walker could be trade bait so the Kings could add a tough complimentary D to play on the 3rd pair. Then Strand or Durzi could be the #7.

OR the Kings give Strand at shot at the third pair with Walker and Clague is the healthy scratch.

Your commitment to demanding physical players be acquired above all else to solve every situation year after year is both inspiring and nauseating.

He was racking up assists in LA too, 2 powerplay points in 4 games is STILL good for a tie for 3rd on the team.

You need more than two assists to be considering racking them up. Com'n dude.

I guess I’m part of 1 of not being able to muster a single f*** what the arena is called. It’s not like Staples had some great allure to it.

I'll join you. If we can get one more, I think we can form a club. They can call it whatever they want. I'd rename myself crypto.com for $700 million.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

You need more than two assists to be considering racking them up. Com'n dude.

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More a commentary on how sad the PP has been, that Tkachev has done as much in 4 games as most of the rest have done in 4x the time.

 

[bland]

More a commentary on how sad the PP has been, that Tkachev has done as much in 4 games as most of the rest have done in 4x the time.

It was just one game too - Tkachev has the same amount of PP points in one game as Brown and Kempe have combined this season - and both are staples of the first PP unit.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

It was just one game too - Tkachev has the same amount of PP points in one game as Brown and Kempe have combined this season - and both are staples of the first PP unit.

Guys, c'mon...Tkachev will get another opportunity but get real, TM is not going to change a lineup that has points in 8 straight if he doesn't have to. Not many coaches would...

 

[bland]

Guys, c'mon...Tkachev will get another opportunity but get real, TM is not going to change a lineup that has points in 8 straight if he doesn't have to. Not many coaches would...

He is already doing so in tonight's game.

Practice line rushes have Grundstrom out, and Arvidsson replacing Kempe on the top line instead of Brown - despite Kempe having 8 points in his last 9 games and Brown only having 2 points in his last 10. Grundstrom has been playing the best hockey of his career.

Your theory doesn't hold water, it's clearly not a case of riding what's working or basing lineup decisions on merit. There is a plan in place here and yeah it deserves questioning.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

WOW! Brown and TM to meeting for the Dustin Brown Exit Plan being executed?

 

[Sleeping Dog]

WOW! Brown and TM to meeting for the Dustin Brown Exit Plan being executed?

I sure hope that game against the Sens isn’t hitting the team now.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

He is already doing so in tonight's game.

Practice line rushes have Grundstrom out, and Arvidsson replacing Kempe on the top line instead of Brown - despite Kempe having 8 points in his last 9 games and Brown only having 2 points in his last 10. Grundstrom has been playing the best hockey of his career.

Your theory doesn't hold water, it's clearly not a case of riding what's working or basing lineup decisions on merit. There is a plan in place here and yeah it deserves questioning.

Seriously? When Tchachev and Grundstom have 400 games under their belts and are making 4.25 million/year, I'm sure they will get their playing time. Settle down.

 

[kingsfan]

He is already doing so in tonight's game.

Practice line rushes have Grundstrom out, and Arvidsson replacing Kempe on the top line instead of Brown - despite Kempe having 8 points in his last 9 games and Brown only having 2 points in his last 10. Grundstrom has been playing the best hockey of his career.

Your theory doesn't hold water, it's clearly not a case of riding what's working or basing lineup decisions on merit. There is a plan in place here and yeah it deserves questioning.

To be fair, Kempe handled the puck like it was a live grenade the last game and they did lose that one, albeit in OT and a game they should have won. Arvidsson has to slot in someplace, although I would have taken Kaliyev out of the line up over Grundstrom.

WOW! Brown and TM to meeting for the Dustin Brown Exit Plan being executed?

You really should right a tabloid. You have further reaches than the fantastic four guy.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Seriously? When Tchachev and Grundstom have 400 games under their belts and are making 4.25 million/year, I'm sure they will get their playing time. Settle down.

That's the point--they would never get 400 games under their belts under current philosophy.

Mgmt would jsut go out and sign a few more redundant middle sixers and play Michael Ryder over Grundstrom for as long as they could then blame Tonka for not being able to dig out of the 4th line/healthy scratch zone.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Blais out Kravtsov in Russia, AA to the Rangers?

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

That's the point--they would never get 400 games under their belts under current philosophy.

Mgmt would jsut go out and sign a few more redundant middle sixers and play Michael Ryder over Grundstrom for as long as they could then blame Tonka for not being able to dig out of the 4th line/healthy scratch zone.

I'm gonna save my whining and griping for when they start losing again, but you have at it.

 

[Schmooley]

I'm gonna save my whining and griping for when they start losing again, but you have at it.

Hes not wrong

 

[kingsfan]

That's the point--they would never get 400 games under their belts under current philosophy.

Mgmt would jsut go out and sign a few more redundant middle sixers and play Michael Ryder over Grundstrom for as long as they could then blame Tonka for not being able to dig out of the 4th line/healthy scratch zone.

I call BS. The whole philosophy of this management team, perhaps to a fault, is to draft and develop a young core that can grow together and form a cup winner. They have spent years accumulating picks and developing these kids, they aren't going to do all that to turn around and sign shit vets.

This year so far 109 players with rookie status have played at least one game in the NHL. LA has iced Kaliyev, Kupari, Tkachev, Clague and Strand for a total of 42 games. We're above the average in terms of both the number of rookies that have played so far and the number of games.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

I call BS. The whole philosophy of this management team, perhaps to a fault, is to draft and develop a young core that can grow together and form a cup winner. They have spent years accumulating picks and developing these kids, they aren't going to do all that to turn around and sign shit vets.

This year so far 109 players with rookie status have played at least one game in the NHL. LA has iced Kaliyev, Kupari, Tkachev, Clague and Strand for a total of 42 games. We're above the average in terms of both the number of rookies that have played so far and the number of games.

And if Byfield hadn't gone down in the preseason, he's most likely got 15 games under his belt today.

 

[Matt13]

He is already doing so in tonight's game.

Practice line rushes have Grundstrom out, and Arvidsson replacing Kempe on the top line instead of Brown - despite Kempe having 8 points in his last 9 games and Brown only having 2 points in his last 10. Grundstrom has been playing the best hockey of his career.

Your theory doesn't hold water, it's clearly not a case of riding what's working or basing lineup decisions on merit. There is a plan in place here and yeah it deserves questioning.

Wasn't Kopitar playing his best with Brown and Arvidsson?

5 points in the last 7 but started 11 points in 8. Granted that game with VGK was a shooting gallery, I still think Kopitar was his best with Brown and Arvi.

We will know tonight if it doesn't work. I say we have to see what happens though before moving Brown.

 

[johnjm22]

Brown over Gurndstrom is obviously the incorrect decision if were talking about merit.

But Brown is a verteran. Led the team in goals last year. He's going to get a very, very, long leash.

Eventually as the season goes on, if Brown continues to struggle and fails to produce, I think Todd will ultimately make the tough decision.

 

[Schmooley]

This year so far 109 players with rookie status have played at least one game in the NHL. LA has iced Kaliyev, Kupari, Tkachev, Clague and Strand for a total of 42 games. We're above the average in terms of both the number of rookies that have played so far and the number of games.

I think hes talking about players being put in a position to succeed and using players to their strengths not just games played.
Kaliyev is the best offensive weapon in the organization and being on the 4th line and pp2 is a real headscratcher. Kupari showed some offensive flashes early on and is now being trained as a 3rd line defensive center like nick dowd. Hes got wheels and still gets no 3-3 overtime icetime.
It took half the defense being injured to bring in Clague and Strand and TMac still puts Maatta in over one of them. I see and understand both sides of the argument and the only way you are right in this is if you think they can go deep into the playoffs and maybe win a cup with the veterans running the show.
Otherwise you arent developing guys to their maximum potential. No other team in the league would be playing Brown on the top line without giving a shot to at least one of the recent first rounders in kempe, kupari, byfield, vilardi, turcotte and even kaliyev and a guy like fagemo who shows some flashes. Trading for arviddson shows they dont think their picks are that good or kopitar still calls the shots. Maybe its a mix of both

 

[tny760]

Brown over Gurndstrom is obviously the incorrect decision if were talking about merit.

But Brown is a verteran. Led the team in goals last year. He's going to get a very, very, long leash.

Eventually as the season goes on, if Brown continues to struggle and fails to produce, I think Todd will ultimately make the tough decision.

i just feel there's a lot of mixed signals being sent by giving him that leash. that's an underperforming line, no matter whose names are attached to it. underperforming lines get shaken up. i get that there's players returning to the lineup right now which means inherent changes but i think there was a good opportunity there to give some other guys a big chance and todd just kinda defaulted to "vets" as he usually seems to do

i'll give him some credit for riding that danault line more the last few games cause those guys are red hot and they seem to basically have become the de facto top line, but i don't understand why kopi/brown is this untouchable to todd. i thought we got arvidsson and danault to continue winning, not to give brown good fee-fees on the way out. that's a mixed message to me

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

i just feel there's a lot of mixed signals being sent by giving him that leash. that's an underperforming line, no matter whose names are attached to it. underperforming lines get shaken up. i get that there's players returning to the lineup right now which means inherent changes but i think there was a good opportunity there to give some other guys a big chance and todd just kinda defaulted to "vets" as he usually seems to do

i'll give him some credit for riding that danault line more the last few games cause those guys are red hot and they seem to basically have become the de facto top line, but i don't understand why kopi/brown is this untouchable to todd. i thought we got arvidsson and danault to continue winning, not to give brown good fee-fees on the way out. that's a mixed message to me

The only message any of us should give a f*** about is winning. Last I checked, we've done a pretty good job of that lately.

 

[shuchukfan]

both are staples of the first PP unit

You mean, both are Crypto.com of the first PP unit.

 

[tny760]

The only message any of us should give a f*** about is winning. Last I checked, we've done a pretty good job of that lately.

i don't disagree and it's why i've piped down for the most part lately, there's just that lingering long term thing of getting the kids developed, and i don't think i'm out of line questioning how some of these young/new guys are being treated

where are we when danault's line cools off if kopi doesn't heat back up?

 

[tny760]

You mean, both are Crypto.com of the first PP unit.

that main board thread is a good read if you haven't yet

someone posted something like "the crypto.com pump & dump dump-in of the night" had me in stitches