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2021-2022 S Blues Multi-Purpose Thread Part 3

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Zezel’s Pretzels said:
I think Joe's nailing it. DA's in a corner and has to make tough decisions knowing that the captain and the two kid stars need to be Blues for a VERY long time to come, and that takes big money.

Even if DP57's contract is a 2 year one, one of those years is one where Kyrou is likely 3x more expensive than he is now. The reality is that we're going to need Neighbours, Bolduc, and Mikkola to take big steps to keep this window open.
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I'm unhappy about letting Perron walk over that amount of term/money. However, I fully agree that this means Army intends to extend ROR and Kyrou. And I do like that.

I think that we could have accomplished that goal AND signed Perron to this deal, but I understand not being confident about being able to do so.
 
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This 100% reminds me of the summer of 2018, where we got Perron and signed Bozak a few hours into FA and were utterly panicked, talking about how Nashville, Winnipeg etc. would clown on us. Right now we have a little cap and upwards of 8 nhl-caliber defensemen. I think there's a trade and signing (or just a trade) for a top 6 forward coming.
 
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Brian39 said:
I'm unhappy about letting Perron walk over that amount of term/money. However, I fully agree that this means Army intends to extend ROR and Kyrou. And I do like that.

I think that we could have accomplished that goal AND signed Perron to this deal, but I understand not being confident about being able to do so.
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I can see the hesitancy with 2023-24's cap situation looking murky after those two players are extended, but with cheaper talent in Neighbours, Bolduc, and Hofer knocking on the door, it seems like they should still have plenty of wiggle room cap wise to fill out the roster even with Perron on board.

There's something else in the works.
 
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There's more coming, folks. Don't know what it is, but I love the FA Day 2018 comparison. Wound up with an ROR and a "Let's go win a Cup" after an underwhelming start to the day.

I still would rather go in on a stud LD and make that a strength, but I could see a top 9 forward with term being a good thing.
 
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joe galiba said:
I looks to me like it came down to Leddy or Perron and they think the internal depth options to replace Perron are better than the options to replace Leddy
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It sucks that we lost Perron. He was true Blue. Loved him. And we are gonna have real cap crunch next year.

But $ aside, I think we also wanted to create opportunity for guys like Neighbours this year and Bolduc next:

Saad- ROR- Kyrou
Buch- Thomas- Tank
Barbie- Schenn- Neighbours
(can rearrange these how like, just showing 1 possibility)

After this year probably subtract Tank and/or Barbie. But this is other part of why we were hesitant to extend Perron. We want younger guys to take over team going forward and that unfortunately means moving out guy like Perron sometimes.
 
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I can't believe I have to explain, like I'm talking to a child, that adding a slow 6.5M player to a lineup that was victimized by speed is not the same thing as saying the player himself was the reason they lost. But since relentlessly imbecilic bad faith exists in this world, I apparently do.
 
Looks like someone on Wikipedia knows something 😂😂
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CaliforniaBlues310 said:
We don’t have to trade Tarasenko. Vegas needed cap space to be compliant. There’s a big difference there.
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Sure, that's why we didn't trade Tarasenko, but if Army wanted to move him to keep Perron, that's why he didn't get an offer he wanted because buyers knew they could wait on other options that wouldn't require many assets. The market to move cap wasn't friendly to teams like us and that's why some of the rumored players that we wanted to move weren't moved. Maybe they still get moved eventually, but I don't think it'll be easy.
 
If I could talk myself into believing the contract size (I can't) then this is really lining up for Gaudreau to move, Tarasenko to move to someone who lost musical chairs, and Tkachuk to be acquired and extended for 8x8+
 
CaliforniaBlues310 said:
Soooo is this where we stand right now?

Schenn-O’Reilly-Kyrou
Buchnevich-Thomas-Tarasenko
Neighbours-Barbashev-Saad
Brown-Acciari-Kostin/Toropchenko(when he returns)
Walker

Leddy-Parayko
Krug-Faulk
Scandella-Perunovich
Mikkola-Bortuzzo

Binnington
Greiss
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Correct and it was important to keep an 8th NHL caliber defenseman so we could let Barbashev pretend to be a 3rd line player.

That’s not a bad team. Probably a playoff team. But that team doesn’t scare anyone anymore.

Armstrong is so overrated.
 
joe galiba said:
I looks to me like it came down to Leddy or Perron and they think the internal depth options to replace Perron are better than the options to replace Leddy
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And that’s why people are incensed. We now have 8 defensemen and 11 NHL caliber forwards. And one of those 11 doesn’t want to be here and almost certainly will not be here in 12 months.

I like Neighbors and Bolduc but if we expect them, at least immediately, to be Perron and Tarasenko then the front office has made a massive mistake.
 
LetsGoBLUES91 said:
And that’s why people are incensed. We now have 8 defensemen and 11 NHL caliber forwards.
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I'm sorry, we're saying that at least 2 of Mikkola, Rosen and Perunovich are NHL D men but at least two of Aciari, Walker, Brown, Torpo, and Neighbours aren't NHL forwards?

And we're also saying that we will for sure reach deals with 1 of D we don't currently have under contract and saying that we for sure won't grab a cheap depth forward between the 2nd day of free agency and the start of camp?

It's just not true to act like the offense is suddenly in shambles. It's probably a bit worse then last year's near-NHL best group. But it's still returning eight 20 goal scorers and is going to be supported by a D group that is better at moving the puck up ice than what we had for 90% of last season. And our 2 closest NHL ready prospects (that can plausibly turn into difference makers) are forwards.

We can still plug holes and improve, but the offense is still going to be damn good.
 
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PocketNines said:
If I could talk myself into believing the contract size (I can't) then this is really lining up for Gaudreau to move, Tarasenko to move to someone who lost musical chairs, and Tkachuk to be acquired and extended for 8x8+
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The Gaudreau deal isn't a bad point if he really wants to come here. Something between Thomas and that is very workable.
 
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A wild card in this Gaudreau situation is that Columbus is now almost certain going to trade Laine‘s RFA rights. Trying to figure out some sort of revolving door where Tarasenko is moved and one of Laine or Little Walt replaces him on the roster. Would probably need to move a little salary out to make it work, but if we couldn’t move Scandella to make it work maybe you move Barby. Gotta think New Jersey and the Islanders would be chomping at the bit to pick up one of those guys or Tarasenko and Calgary would want to backfill their roster with some scoring.
 
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