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2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part IV

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Is that really considered a hangover cure? I usually just stick to the egg sandwich, large coffee and gatorade.
 
where can I watch a stream of the draft? is it on NBC in any capacity?
 
BKGooner said:
Is that really considered a hangover cure? I usually just stick to the egg sandwich, large coffee and gatorade.
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I'm too old to drink enough to have a hangover, but back in the day when I was an East Village bartender, getting off work at 4am and then drinking till noon, Pedialyte was my best friend.
 
GoAwayStaal said:
I agree with you.

It's just strange to see an organization avoid a league the way the Rangers have with the Q. I mean they don't avoid it entirely (2 of their better later picks in the last 10 years came out of the Q) but they aren't hitting it up all that often.

Who was the last guy they drafted out of the Q? Was it Graves/Duclair? That was 7 years ago!
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They took Antoine Lafleur in the 2nd round one year. Maybe still feel burned?
 
GoAwayStaal said:
I agree with you.

It's just strange to see an organization avoid a league the way the Rangers have with the Q. I mean they don't avoid it entirely (2 of their better later picks in the last 10 years came out of the Q) but they aren't hitting it up all that often.

Who was the last guy they drafted out of the Q? Was it Graves/Duclair? That was 7 years ago!
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Gabriel Fontaine IIRC in 2016. But seeing that the Q is actually pretty decent in some regards to certain prospects, NYR should look into them.
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
Let’s say the Rangers top 4 is off the board, who would you personally want them to take?

Let’s assume the group is Lundell, Raymond, Rossi, Perfetti, Sanderson and Drysdale
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I think you gotta go with Raymond or Rossi there. I think you have to swing for guys who have a chance to be the most dangerous.

I will tell you that my drafting approach has always leaned heavier on forwards in the first, unless you have a guy who is clearly the BPA or has a chance to anchor a defense.

I recently did a review of my "choice" for the Rangers, going back to 2002, based on draft postion and who was on the table at the time.

There was the occassional miss in there, but my success rate was high.
 
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Joey Bones said:
Criminally underrating Mercer here. I would absolutely have him in that list of players with the first pick. High intensity, aggressive puck disturber with a knack for creating turnovers. Has a great first pass and very good shot. Plays in all three zones and can transition on a dime while controlling the puck. He's fast and strong. I actually have him as one that might make it in the top 10 for a team starved for talented and skilled forecheckers. Also, he switched between two systems and had an injury. I mentioned this earlier, but if he were on a team like the 67's, he'd have an offensive explosion. In 32 games had 60 points for a PPG of 1.88. His pace is above 2 PPG had he played a full season, while a full season of Quinn on a stacked 67's team gave him 1.44 PPG (albeit 52 goals).

He, also, played a supportive, bottom-6 role with Canada at the WJC in a year where 17/18 year olds usually don't play in the highest level of junior competition. I would absolutely love the pick for NYR, especially since they need players who control the puck at fast levels of pacing.

IIRC, Mercer this year had a goal similar to Aho's when he stole the puck on a defender (Trouba) and deked out the other defender (DeAngelo) for a goal. I'll have to find it....
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Quinn next to Bread is a top 6 player that gets 9 games imo. He fits the style of player that people wish Fast was on that wing, and he can absolutely torch it. Quinn next to Bread is going to flirt with 35-45 goals imo.

You can't pass on that if that is there, but I can see a case for Sanderson. He's also a rare commodity these days, and these are the type of players you want in playoff hockey. I do see him as a guy you win with, and that's a high bar in my books. That said- it's much easier to find a Sanderson whose skinny in the later rounds and needs some time.

William Wallinder is an absolutely outstanding skater who is bigger that Sanderson in terms of height and reach, but is 4 years away and needs a lot of physical defensemen. So... if you want that player, and can wait... you can go with Quinn at 10, and Wallinder as a reach with the late first, or trade down in the first and get an extra second if things go that direction.
 
Edge said:
Sanderson is seen by many as potentially being the best defenseman in this draft. So the Rangers wouldn't be along there.

Lundell is more of a gray area. Everyone agrees he's a very good prospect. The disagreement is whether he projects as a 1B/2, or more of a 2/3 type.

Personally, I'm hoping one of the wings drops because I think it becomes easier to say, "Win or lose, that was the right pick to make."
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I’m hoping that happens and then they trade up for Lundell with their second pick.
 
I know Laf is the media consensus for #1, but is it closer between him Byfield and Stuztle than many imagine?
I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the 3, but is Laf at 1 a certainty, or more correctly, 'should' it be a certainty?
 
mike14 said:
I know Laf is the media consensus for #1, but is it closer between him Byfield and Stuztle than many imagine?
I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the 3, but is Laf at 1 a certainty, or more correctly, 'should' it be a certainty?
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Just my opinion and I'm sure many will disagree, but IF OTT offered 3+5 I'd need to think long and hard about it. There's definitely a part of me that thinks that Stutzle (Byfield less so) plus someone picked at 5 would be better for this team than Lafreniere on his own.
 
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The only possible (and I don't use the word probable) trade for the Rangers is Ottawa. That's pretty much it. Barring anything there, Lafreniere is the pick. The Rangers are typically one of McKenzie's sources, and they had Lafreniere in the top spot.

So, pretty much, this thread is now where will the Canes pick end up, who do we take with it, and whether the Rangers pursue moving up a few spots if someone they really like is on the board.
 
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The only possible (and I don't use the word probable) trade for the Rangers is Ottawa. That's pretty much it. Barring anything there, Lafreniere is the pick. The Rangers are typically one of McKenzie's sources, and they had Lafreniere in the top spot.

So, pretty much, this thread is now where will the Canes pick end up, who do we take with it, and whether the Rangers pursue moving up a few spots if someone they really like is on the board.
 
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Totally understand and agree to a point. Laf is on a different level then anyone else in the draft and looks to be a game changer. To your point, I think Gorton is already planning on how to make the team better by moving other players. You can't pass on this kind of talent... its what you build around.
Long term I would start figuring out how to move Kreider but until then I would put everything on the table to try and get a player like Rossi (if he's still there) or Lundell in this draft. Imagine walking away with Lafreniere and Lundell? Craziness.
 
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