2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part IV

[Edge]

Does anyone have a projection of where Lundell is picked? I've heard promising things.

I think anywhere from 6-13 is realistic.

 

[Polar Bear]

@Edge You think the FO loves Laffy more than Kakko from last season?

 

[Fitzy]

I think anywhere from 6-13 is realistic.

That would take some doing then.

 

[Mikos87]

Helps that Laf has a few inches on Kane too

Yeah in tight and in traffic he can set up dazzling plays. He can create and control chaos in the offensive zone with the puck on his stick. Canada won the gold at the WJC because of him, came out like an animal in a couple of game. He's not afraid to be physical. He likes to dish out hits. You get him a RH shooter, and a LH shooter that can crank it and he's off to the races.

 

[Edge]

@Edge You think the FO loves Laffy more than Kakko from last season?

He's a better prospect, so I'm going to say yes.

Kakko was in the debate as to whether or not he was the top guy in his class. At the end I believe it was 60-40 or 70-30 in favor of Hughes.

With Lafreniere, he isn't in the debate about being the top guy in his class. He's in the debate about where he ranks compared to other first overall picks.

When you stop and think about that for a moment, that's pretty significant.

 

[Polar Bear]

He's a better prospect, so I'm going to say yes.

Kakko was in the debate as to whether or not he was the top guy in his class. At the end I believe it was 60-40 or 70-30 in favor of Hughes.

With Lafreniere, he isn't in the debate about being the top guy in his class. He's in the debate about where he ranks compares to other first overall picks.

When you stop and think about that for a moment, that's pretty significant.

Agreed. Just use our assets now to find a #2 C.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

He's a better prospect, so I'm going to say yes.

Kakko was in the debate as to whether or not he was the top guy in his class. At the end I believe it was 60-40 or 70-30 in favor of Hughes.

With Lafreniere, he isn't in the debate about being the top guy in his class. He's in the debate about where he ranks compared to other first overall picks.

When you stop and think about that for a moment, that's pretty significant.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. If Crosby and McDavid were in the same draft, just because one was picked 2nd doesn't mean he isn't better than most 1OA. Of course that's just an extreme example, but still entirely possible. Ovechkin and Malkin were in the same draft, for example.

 

[Edge]

I don't think that's a fair comparison. If Crosby and McDavid were in the same draft, just because one was picked 2nd doesn't mean he isn't better than most 1OA. Of course that's just an extreme example, but still entirely possible. Ovechkin and Malkin were in the same draft, for example.

Yes, but there wasn't nearly as much talk about pulling either of those guys, regardless of their draft position, and putting them in the middle of a 10 year field of first overall picks. There was some comparison to the 2016 draft because of the dynamic, but I don't know if the overall conversation quite had Hughes and Kakko on the same tier overall.

 

[ElLeetch]

So with our first pick pretty much set, and since thats gonna be a winger, what centers in the 20-30 range should be our targets? Zary? Lapierre? Perreault?

 

[Edge]

So with our first pick pretty much set, and since thats gonna be a winger, what centers in the 20-30 range should be our targets? Zary? Lapierre? Perreault?

Perrault at this point I'd project as a RW.

Lapierre is definitely someone I'd keep an eye on as a someone this board isn't necessarily talking about. Holloway is a guy they might project as a center.

Zary was going they expressed interest in much earlier in the season. He wasn't going to be on the radar for their top pick, but he could be in the 20s.

If Guhle is sitting there in the late teens, and the Rangers are at 20, I wouldn't rule that out.

A trade for an NHL player is also possible.

Nothing can top the excitement of the first pick. But this second asset is going to be damn interesting.

 

[Edge]

So with our first pick pretty much set, and since thats gonna be a winger, what centers in the 20-30 range should be our targets? Zary? Lapierre? Perreault?

Add Bourque to that list.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Do you really think there's no chance someone comes up with a package for Laf that Gorton would seriously consider taking?

 

[Edge]

Do you really think there's no chance someone comes up with a package for Laf that Gorton would seriously consider taking?

I think it's possible, but not probable.

I'd give it a 10-20 percent chance.

 

[Edge]

After not drafting a player from the Q in the first round in 65 years, how ironic would it be if they end up with two this year?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

After not drafting a player from the Q in the first round in 65 years, how ironic would it be if they end up with two this year?

Definitely breaking the trend in style

 

[Polar Bear]

Do you really think there's no chance someone comes up with a package for Laf that Gorton would seriously consider taking?

Would probably need to be a stupidly good offer.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Would probably need to be a stupidly good offer.

I mean what would you consider a stupidly good offer?

Would it be a good idea to try and build a package around trying to get Eichel with him?

Laf doesn't solve any of our issues. That's the problem we have right now. We have enough depth at wing. We need centers.

 

[QJL]

I know the need is at center, but I just don’t love the centers. I’m taking any of Jarvis, Reichel, Gunler over Holloway, Zary, Lapierre, Bourque.

 

[Polar Bear]

I mean what would you consider a stupidly good offer?

Would it be a good idea to try and build a package around trying to get Eichel with him?

Laf doesn't solve any of our issues. That's the problem we have right now. We have enough depth at wing. We need centers.

Eichel has too big of a deal to give up Laf for. Godfather offers means something lke 3+5 + Tkachuk or something to consider a trade. Unlikely to happen, which is why its prob 95% chance we stay and take Laf.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Let’s say Carolina loses this coming round and we end up with 20-22 overall with their pick who do you think we can get in that range?

 

[Edge]

I mean what would you consider a stupidly good offer?

Would it be a good idea to try and build a package around trying to get Eichel with him?

Laf doesn't solve any of our issues. That's the problem we have right now. We have enough depth at wing. We need centers.

And if the Rangers can't solve their center issues internally, they can always make a trade at some point.

The choice isn't draft a franchise player at LW or solve your problem at center. The choice is draft a franchise player at LW and then figure out how to solve your problem at center.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I mean what would you consider a stupidly good offer?

Would it be a good idea to try and build a package around trying to get Eichel with him?

Laf doesn't solve any of our issues. That's the problem we have right now. We have enough depth at wing. We need centers.

Lafreniere is the type of player who makes your center better. He's a high-end forward. He upgrades the overall talent and allows you to bring in a complementary player which doesn't cost as much. He also is going to emerge as the best player on the team, the likely captain, and the face of the franchise.

 

[Edge]

Let’s say Carolina loses this coming round and we end up with 20-22 overall with their pick who do you think we can get in that range?

You could have have potential trade-up scenarios involving Jarvis, Guhle, Holloway, or you could go with guys like Lapierre, Perrault, Bourque.

Those are some popular and intriguing names.

I'm not sure they go with a LW, unless said player is insanely the best player on the board. So you're looking at centers, right wings and LDs probably getting the tie breakers.

 

[Edge]

Lafreniere is the type of player who makes your center better. He's a high-end forward. He upgrades the overall talent and allows you to bring in a complementary player which doesn't cost as much. He also is going to emerge as the best player on the team, the likely captain, and the face of the franchise.

I'm not entirely convinced that letting Chytil play with one of Panarin, Kreider or Lafreniere doesn't go wonders for him at this point. I think he's become a major candidate to take a serious step forward next season.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I'm not entirely convinced that letting Chytil play with one of Panarin, Kreider or Lafreniere doesn't go wonders for him at this point. I think he's become a major candidate to take a serious step forward next season.

Fully agreed.