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Rumor: 2020-21 Trade Rumours and FA Part VIII: Intra-Playoff Edition?

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Kadri would definitely have takers.. Problem is what do we do to fill that spot. If Newhook really impresses in the playoffs, maybe it could work out. If not, why would someone trade a better 2C for Kadri? Then again, wouldn't it be better to go with Kadri again next season and Newhook gets an extra year to prepare? Won't be an easy puzzle to solve.

I always assumed Kadri was only a temporary solution as he was the best player we could get to fill that hole. Ideally you want someone better than Kadri to be your 2C in a cup team.
 
Cousin Eddie said:
Yeah he did. Maybe not contractually but he was asked where (if anywhere) he’d be willing to go. He agreed to go to Pittsburgh before the trade happened.
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But that's what I mean - contractually he didn't have any say. If he was getting traded, it was always going to a team that is making the playoffs and likely has a chance to contend.

Him "ok-ing" Pittsburgh meant nothing in the grand scheme of things.
 
dahrougem2 said:
But that's what I mean - contractually he didn't have any say. If he was getting traded, it was always going to a team that is making the playoffs and likely has a chance to contend.

Him "ok-ing" Pittsburgh meant nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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It did. Three years ago Bob McKenzie reported that Carter was threatening the Kings that he’d retire if they moved him. His drama with CBJ years ago demonstrates he’s willing to be difficult.
 
Avs44 said:
It did. Three years ago Bob McKenzie reported that Carter was threatening the Kings that he’d retire if they moved him. His drama with CBJ years ago demonstrates he’s willing to be difficult.
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I don't know if the Kings would have cared all that much, though. I mean, sure, they'd be out the two conditional draft picks they received from Pittsburgh but they'd also be clear of Carter's 5.2M salary that could be used to actually help the team instead of whatever it was Carter had been doing the last 4 years as a straight up bad hockey player.

Again, I understand there's a "respect" factor with players/GMs but if Rob Blake had a better offer on the table (not saying he did) he wouldn't need to consult Carter on sending him there given the lack of a NMC/NTC. If Carter threatened to retire, call his bluff and you have the immediate cap space.
 
Vaslof said:
Kadri would definitely have takers.. Problem is what do we do to fill that spot. If Newhook really impresses in the playoffs, maybe it could work out. If not, why would someone trade a better 2C for Kadri? Then again, wouldn't it be better to go with Kadri again next season and Newhook gets an extra year to prepare? Won't be an easy puzzle to solve.

I always assumed Kadri was only a temporary solution as he was the best player we could get to fill that hole. Ideally you want someone better than Kadri to be your 2C in a cup team.
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If Newhook continues to progress through the playoffs, we still should have a short term 2C because Newhook won't have seen the full grind of an NHL season. Finding a trade for someone with a short term that you're willing to walk away from may be tough.
I think Jost brings enough to the table to make Kadri expendable. We shall see how that goes here in the coming weeks.
Maybe a motivated Kadri comes back and lights it up and plays his contract year like most players play at that point.
Either way, I think Joe will make sure 2C isn't an issue.
 
dahrougem2 said:
I don't know if the Kings would have cared all that much, though. I mean, sure, they'd be out the two conditional draft picks they received from Pittsburgh but they'd also be clear of Carter's 5.2M salary that could be used to actually help the team instead of whatever it was Carter had been doing the last 4 years as a straight up bad hockey player.

Again, I understand there's a "respect" factor with players/GMs but if Rob Blake had a better offer on the table (not saying he did) he wouldn't need to consult Carter on sending him there given the lack of a NMC/NTC. If Carter threatened to retire, call his bluff and you have the immediate cap space.
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I think the Kings had to care a lot. They have Doughty and Kopitar there. They’re both pretty vocal about what they want. Doughty is also close with Carter — he was just talking him up again last week. If you treat Carter badly, one of the vets of their cup wining teams, I’m pretty certain there’d be reverberating effects on some of the remaining vets in LA.

Not to mention...I’m pretty certain any potential receiving team would have asked if Carter would actually want to play there, given his retirement threats.
 
Avs44 said:
I think the Kings had to care a lot. They have Doughty and Kopitar there. They’re both pretty vocal about what they want. Doughty is also close with Carter — he was just talking him up again last week. If you treat Carter badly, one of the vets of their cup wining teams, I’m pretty certain there’d be reverberating effects on some of the remaining vets in LA.

Not to mention...I’m pretty certain any potential receiving team would have asked if Carter would actually want to play there, given his retirement threats.
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Ehhhh but do you really think that matters? Look at how Joe Sakic treated Tyson Barrie. That's Nathan MacKinnon's best friend, and he moved him out to improve the team.

Rob Blake's job is to make the Los Angeles Kings the best team possible, not to please Drew Doughty. If trading Carter elsewhere brought a better return, he should have done it.

Again, not saying that there was a better offer out there because those conditional picks will very likely turn into a 2nd and 3rd - great value for a player that has sucked for 4 years now. But Carter threatening retirement should not and likely did not impact anything Rob Blake did.
 
With Jost and how he's playing, I am not sure we need Carter (putting Compher on the second list isn't a positive by any means though). It's not like Avs have a problem scoring goals, if we lose it'd weirdly be from the defensive zone or from the IR list.
 
Given the last month or so, I'm now leaning more towards protecting Donk than Kadri in the expansion draft. If SEA takes him, so be it, frees up money to go after like Danault or Wennberg in free agency.
 
Peter Peckerwood said:
If Newhook continues to progress through the playoffs, we still should have a short term 2C because Newhook won't have seen the full grind of an NHL season. Finding a trade for someone with a short term that you're willing to walk away from may be tough.
I think Jost brings enough to the table to make Kadri expendable. We shall see how that goes here in the coming weeks.
Maybe a motivated Kadri comes back and lights it up and plays his contract year like most players play at that point.
Either way, I think Joe will make sure 2C isn't an issue.
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Next year Newhook will be the same age Stastny was when he took over as. 2C.

If Kadri ends up leaving a 3C like Teirney would be a better investment.
 
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I do think Kadri stays with the Avs for the rest of the contract, but safe to say he was crap this year and the current suspension is just final nail to the coffin.
I am not big fan of Nugent Hopkins, but right now, if it was possible, i would rid of Kadri and his 4,5M, alongside say Compher and signed RNH for the money instead. Not sure what money he is going to command on his UFA contract, but should be not much more than he is now, which is about 6M?
 
dahrougem2 said:
Ehhhh but do you really think that matters? Look at how Joe Sakic treated Tyson Barrie. That's Nathan MacKinnon's best friend, and he moved him out to improve the team.

Rob Blake's job is to make the Los Angeles Kings the best team possible, not to please Drew Doughty. If trading Carter elsewhere brought a better return, he should have done it.

Again, not saying that there was a better offer out there because those conditional picks will very likely turn into a 2nd and 3rd - great value for a player that has sucked for 4 years now. But Carter threatening retirement should not and likely did not impact anything Rob Blake did.
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Let it go... you need help.
 
You know who would look good on this Leafs team that isn't scoring enough in the playoffs? League leader in defensive points Tyson Barrie. He is definitely not needed on this team, though, with Makar being the monster that he is.
 
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