BringTheReign
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Don’t forget Madden down in Ontario. Still disgusted that there was no suspension on his hit.
Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster Discussion Part V
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Don’t forget Madden down in Ontario. Still disgusted that there was no suspension on his hit.
VILARGOD
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And I see your still sour and impatient. Have fun with that. Your the type of fan who would have wanted to trade Mackinnon after he had a trash WJC
Sol
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No. MacKinnon is lightning fast and was lightning fast. He showed a lot of positives. I have hope in Vilardi becoming a good second line player. However my only doubt is he is extremly slow and isn't big enough to offset his lack of speed. I was just poking fun at the hype in your username and your "expectations".
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Someone needs to explain to me a few things,
A.) Why is everyone so pissed about this season....it's a growing season, we are the youngest team in the league or one of, and young guys, make mistakes etc, everyone in the league is surprised at L.A. figuring they are about a year a head of where their rebuild is.
B.) What is with the Lizotte hate, kid drives the play every shift, he's not necessarily a finisher or a scorer, but he's a helluva 3rd/4th line center who causes a lot of grief for the other team....good penalty killer, good 4th liner, what's the issue?
A.) Why is everyone so pissed about this season....it's a growing season, we are the youngest team in the league or one of, and young guys, make mistakes etc, everyone in the league is surprised at L.A. figuring they are about a year a head of where their rebuild is.
B.) What is with the Lizotte hate, kid drives the play every shift, he's not necessarily a finisher or a scorer, but he's a helluva 3rd/4th line center who causes a lot of grief for the other team....good penalty killer, good 4th liner, what's the issue?
Schrute farms
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100% -- we are young and lacking depth. I thought most expected us to be around 6-12th place.
YAYSAY
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What was the point of calling up Lias Anderson? His first game he scores and had like 2-3 chances, one of our most effective forwards. Lets him play one more game where he didn't even play bad, now he's sitting again.
head eyes
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redcard
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vs. VGK, COL, MIN, STL = 10-10-4
vs. ANA, SJS, ARI = 4-7-2
That's more or less what the frustration is about. I never expected us to be a playoff team, and am not concerned with our current spot in the standings. But I'm annoyed that our worst efforts have been against the teams that are considered rivals and are supposed to be as bad as we are .
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Redcard said it better than I could I think. It's not about the result as much as about the 'how'. I expected to see losses due to deficiencies of talent--I didn't expect to see losses due to deficiencies of effort/heart/focus/preparation or 'ego' thinking you deserve 2 for your place in the standings. Otherwise, they're +/- about where I had expected.
Fair enough, but I don't think anyone is factoring in again, age....effects preparation and focus.....they will mature with that, some have it from the start, some need to mature into that,
Plus this is a completely different, crazy world we are in vs 2 years ago....that's going to way on them as well......now the argument is everyone is dealing with that, other teams etc, true, but everyone is different etc.
I'm not sure that expectations of 100% are realistic in the best of times....let alone these times.
AlphaBravo
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I would be cautious here. Maybe the Ducks are as bad as we are, but San Jose and Arizona on paper are supposed to be more competitive. San Jose in particular, has a lot of talented players that underperformed last year and can get hot. Ultimately, while we were above them in the standings, most would agree that comparing roster to roster, San Jose was expected to perform better than us. Same with Arizona.
The key thing here is that we had spurts of good performance, played meaningful games, which is good for the players development. Importantly, our on ice performance does NOT EVEN INCLUDE our blue chip prospects. I would be in a more doom and gloom if players like Turcotte, Byfield, Kaliyev etc. were playing horribly and we were losing games. I would be interested to see how the team looks next year (with the understanding that even the above blue chip prospects will have on and off games since they are young).
AlphaBravo
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I also note for this offseason, Blake needs to make moves to improve our roster, other than relying on our blue chip prospects to develop. If we were doing a full-blown rebuild with Kopitar and Doughty also traded for picks prospects, this would not be necessary. But if we are keeping guys like Kopitar and Doughty, they have may 2-3 more good years in them. Kings need to push for and make the playoffs, with hopefully deep runs during that time period.
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That is exaclty what I am wondering too. What the heck is that 5 year plan? (we are in year 3) Is it to make a run with Doughty\Kopi and the youth in 2-3 years or a real rebuild??
bland
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That is the exact opposite of what Blake should do. You know why? Because he tried it for two years when it was blatantly obvious that it should have been torn down.
This rebuild is two years behind where it should be because Blake and Robitaille misunderstood what made the previous team successful. It just wasn't this core, it was the ridiculously deep and driven pieces around them that lifted them up to a championship level. When they left - without a single asset in return - the core was exposed for what it was. Mediocrity.
Kopitar and Doughty have doubtlessly been informed of the direction, and even if they haven't they know far better than us what's going on. They signed their deals on a team that was heading straight down into a rebuild, there is no reason whatsoever to try and maximize their last few years.
100% disagree......absolutely. First, we don't have room for all the prospects we have, we just don't. So if we can trade a Turcotte and Faber for a Chycrun or Dahlin, you 1000% make that deal.
We need to turn our assets, into.....better assets. No one is saying he needs to trade for a 30 year old Skinner etc, or whatever it may be. But if there is a deal there to turn Turcotte, Fagemo, and whomever into a young proven NHLer, you make that deal 10 out of 10 times.
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But that's not the point, on paper they may be marginally better, but that doesn't matter. They're all a tier below the other teams.
We've had so many tight games against the wild, we've dominated the blues, held on for dear life and stolen some points from Vegas and Colorado. But then we completely mail it in against the other 3. That's not a talent problem, that's not depth. Mistakes costs you goals here and there, maybe cost you a game from time to time and are expected from a young team and not the issue either. We just don't show up to play these teams.
DryIslandBartender
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Rotten Bums! You overpaid weenies! I *detest* you! You're all garbage! All of ya! Back up the truck!
bland
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No, you don't unless you enjoy shitting your bed.
There is a process here, and it is in its infancy. You don't start hitting the fast-forward button because you don't enjoy watching poor hockey. The future here lies three or four years from now and trying to cut a year or so off of that list is literally the dumbest decision that could be made.
VILARGOD
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Have shat the bed before. Can confirm, it is terrible
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Kingsfan1
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I wouldnt trade Fagemo. I have a gut feeling he is going to be a top 6 player and be one of our best players in the future
Again, 100% disagree.....you are saying that if the Kings were offered Rasmus Dahlin for Turcotte, Walker, 2022 1st, and Faber, you don't do that deal? Or Eichel for Turcotte, Fagemo, Kupari, and 2022 and 2023 1st, you don't do that deal?
100% done.....you have ZERO idea how Turcotte, Faber, Fagemo, or Kupari will pan out, let alone the 1sts.....they can be the next Matt Zultek for all we know....
You don't necessarily empty the cupboard for sure, but you can't hoard every prospect, you simply do not have enough room and you end up losing them for free, or much less value.
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