Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster Discussion Part V

[unicornpig]

Gross. Laine is trash and won’t be in the NHL within 3 years. That floater bought into his early hype and hasn’t done anything since plus he’s a head case.

Yea this is a terrible take

 

[No Name The Nameless]

So like 2021 1st + Kupari + 2/3rd? I don’t know, teams stock in falling right now. That 1st could end up top 5. And nobody on Philadelphia impresses me, other than Provorov, minus this year. I think they’re defense prospects got insanely overrated. Maybe I’m wrong.

I’d hold out until they see where they’re drafting.

I don't see a top 5 pick. It was take a massive losing streak to get close. The Kings have games in hand, plus Seattle is guaranteed in the top 5.

 

[funky]

We are tied with Dallas for 10th overall and play Vegas again tonight. After tonight we will probably be in sole possession of 10th.

Powers
Hughes
Edvinsson
Clarke
Lambos

- all may go top 10

throw in Wallstedt and we have 6 players that would fill a need.

I like holding on to the puck until draft day and see how things shake out. We have the prospects to move up the draft as well.

 

[YP44]

Sanheim is RFA this summer coming of a 3.25 mil a year contract

Hanifin is signed 3 more years after this year at 4.95 mil per year than UFA

no way calgary is moving Hanifan. He is the one guy who was solid before daryl and looks even better since the coaching change

 

[YP44]

I like Hanifin more than Sanheim.

ya but one is not available and the other is absolutely not available.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Blake and AEG need to decide if they’re going to try 1 or 2 kicks at it while Doughty and Kopitar have some gas left. The moves seem to indicate that they’re playing the long game which is probably the correct move. At what point does Doughty ask to be moved?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

As expected, Gostisbehere clears.

 

[DrHansReinhardt]

Blake and AEG need to decide if they’re going to try 1 or 2 kicks at it while Doughty and Kopitar have some gas left. The moves seem to indicate that they’re playing the long game which is probably the correct move. At what point does Doughty ask to be moved?

The plan is working. the cupboard is stocked and the Kings are more competitive than the last couple seasons. Doughty is signed through 2026-27. Blake wont be moving Drew.

 

[Lt Dan]

As expected, Gostisbehere clears.

Surprised, but not surprised. I still want him on the Kings though.
Rob should call them and ask for Ghost and a second rounder for a 2076 7th rounder

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Surprised, but not surprised. I still want him on the Kings though.
Rob should call them and ask for Ghost and a second rounder for a 2076 7th rounder

On top of what he’s owed this season, adding an additional $6.5 million in real dollars to the payroll isn’t something most teams are going to willingly take on, especially via waivers.

Not sure how anyone thought any team would put in a claim without salary going out. Like I said when he was placed on waivers, he’ll clear and the Flyers will have to retain and take on another contract in order to move Gostisbehere.

 

[YP44]

Surprised, but not surprised. I still want him on the Kings though.
Rob should call them and ask for Ghost and a second rounder for a 2076 7th rounder

why would the flyers do that in season. If they are desperate to get rid of his cap I do not think it will cost a 2nd given how ghost is still very useful and that cap is not that atrocious.

Maata for Ghost Saves Flyers some cap, gives LA the better player and doesn't put LA at the max 50 contracts. I would do Maata + 3rd

 

[YP44]

On top of what he’s owed this season, adding an additional $6.5 million in real dollars to the payroll isn’t something most teams are going to willingly take on, especially via waivers.

Not sure how anyone thought any team would put in a claim without salary going out. Like I said when he was placed on waivers, he’ll clear and the Flyers will have to retain and take on another contract in order to move Gostisbehere.

yup, fun to speculate though

 

[Lt Dan]

why would the flyers do that in season. If they are desperate to get rid of his cap I do not think it will cost a 2nd given how ghost is still very useful and that cap is not that atrocious.

Maata for Ghost Saves Flyers some cap, gives LA the better player and doesn't put LA at the max 50 contracts. I would do Maata + 3rd

I don't understand your logic here

They were willing to give him away from essentially free because they are rumored to want someone else
They wanted him gone , likely for a dman upgrade and because they needed cap space.

Maata is not a real upgrade over Ghost.
A Maata trade would save Philly 1,166,775 which is just about the same savings they get from sending him down .

Philly would not take your offer and I don't think the Kings would do it either.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

why would the flyers do that in season. If they are desperate to get rid of his cap I do not think it will cost a 2nd given how ghost is still very useful and that cap is not that atrocious.

Don’t underestimate that 2076 pick!

 

[KingsFan7824]

Blake and AEG need to decide if they’re going to try 1 or 2 kicks at it while Doughty and Kopitar have some gas left. The moves seem to indicate that they’re playing the long game which is probably the correct move. At what point does Doughty ask to be moved?

I would bet he knows there aren't many, if any, places he could go where his cap hit won't hinder the team.

In all likelihood, especially with Cups in his back pocket, his best bet is to ride it out here, and see where the young guys can take him. By the time we find out that they're not good enough, should that be the case, Doughty will be close to finished anyway.

Where would he even choose to go? It's not going to be just anywhere. Toronto for sure. Where else?

Doughty made his choice 3 years ago. For good or bad, for him, for the team, for the fans, he's going to be a King.

 

[YP44]

I don't understand your logic here

They were willing to give him away from essentially free because they are rumored to want someone else
They wanted him gone , likely for a dman upgrade and because they needed cap space.

Maata is not a real upgrade over Ghost.
A Maata trade would save Philly 1,166,775 which is just about the same savings they get from sending him down .

Philly would not take your offer and I don't think the Kings would do it either.

No Maata is not an upgrade. I like Ghost over him which is why LA adds a pick.

The flyers would save $1.2M as you outlined, but with the player dressed not on taxi. They only get that savings if Ghost is on taxi or sent down. Plus the flyers would get an extra pick.
The kings POV is getting the better player who would help their 2ndPP unit, and hopefully be a better fit than Maata has been.

not saying it would or should happen just that I would do it.

 

[GKJ]

As expected, Gostisbehere clears.

It was more anxiety than anything.

Some people are shocked, but they aren't understanding the economics of this season. Fletcher even said it out loud last week. Nobody wants to take on money

That said, I was ready to hide out here for a few days

 

[kilowatt]

We are tied with Dallas for 10th overall and play Vegas again tonight. After tonight we will probably be in sole possession of 10th.

Powers
Hughes
Edvinsson
Clarke
Lambos

- all may go top 10

throw in Wallstedt and we have 6 players that would fill a need.

I like holding on to the puck until draft day and see how things shake out. We have the prospects to move up the draft as well.

There are some other really great forwards that likely go in or near the top ten as well, like Beniers, Johnson, Guenther, Eklund, and Lysell. Adding a winger like Lysell would be a huge boost to our forward group, we don't really have anyone like him. And really, anyone in the top ten could be a top three talent. It's been such a weird year for scouting that there are a lot of unknowns. I'm actually really glad we won the lottery last year rather than this year (not that I'd mind winning it again, but if I had to choose, Byfield was the way to go).

 

[Schrute farms]

We're winning the draft lotto this year. Bank on it....i'm from the future

 

[YP44]

Doughty is on "The Athletic Hockey Show" podcast. Not much of substance so far. I am at the part where he just called out LeBrun for not having him on Lebrun's team Canada roster haha.

 

[Herby]

Blake and AEG need to decide if they’re going to try 1 or 2 kicks at it while Doughty and Kopitar have some gas left. The moves seem to indicate that they’re playing the long game which is probably the correct move. At what point does Doughty ask to be moved?

This is my biggest issue with the Kings rebuild (as I've mentioned before). There is just to big a gap between Kopitar and Doughty and Byfield and all the young prospects. When Byfield and all these teenagers are ready to be impact players what are AK and DD going to be as players? That is why I am so pro trading for Eichel if he does indeed become available, but who knows if he's even available or what his injury status is.

As far as Doughty being angry, same thing I said about Karlsson on the main board. If you want more freedom to not get stuck in a rebuild or on a terrible team then don't sign for 8 years. These guys want their cake and want to eat it too.

 

[YP44]

This is my biggest issue with the Kings rebuild (as I've mentioned before). There is just to big a gap between Kopitar and Doughty and Byfield and all the young prospects. When Byfield and all these teenagers are ready to be impact players what are AK and DD going to be as players? That is why I am so pro trading for Eichel if he does indeed become available, but who knows if he's even available or what his injury status is.

As far as Doughty being angry, same thing I said about Karlsson on the main board. If you want more freedom to not get stuck in a rebuild or on a terrible team then don't sign for 8 years. These guys want their cake and want to eat it too.

when Byfield and all these teenagers are ready to be impact players LA will be looking to bring in some veteran leaders should they move out Kopitar and Doughty. I like the gap, allows me to cheer for the future while clinging to the past.

 

[bland]

This is my biggest issue with the Kings rebuild (as I've mentioned before). There is just to big a gap between Kopitar and Doughty and Byfield and all the young prospects. When Byfield and all these teenagers are ready to be impact players what are AK and DD going to be as players? That is why I am so pro trading for Eichel if he does indeed become available, but who knows if he's even available or what his injury status is.

As far as Doughty being angry, same thing I said about Karlsson on the main board. If you want more freedom to not get stuck in a rebuild or on a terrible team then don't sign for 8 years. These guys want their cake and want to eat it too.

So you want to limit the future to maximize the past?

Kopitar and Doughty are fantastic players but building around them instead of in spite of them is a ticket to the darkest reaches of the fabled black hole.

 

[SFKingshomer]

This is my biggest issue with the Kings rebuild (as I've mentioned before). There is just to big a gap between Kopitar and Doughty and Byfield and all the young prospects. When Byfield and all these teenagers are ready to be impact players what are AK and DD going to be as players? That is why I am so pro trading for Eichel if he does indeed become available, but who knows if he's even available or what his injury status is.

As far as Doughty being angry, same thing I said about Karlsson on the main board. If you want more freedom to not get stuck in a rebuild or on a terrible team then don't sign for 8 years. These guys want their cake and want to eat it too.

Yea they definitely need to bridge the age gap. It’s sad when Kempe is 1 of your only players in that range. He’s a decent player but they really need an impact player.

 

[No Name The Nameless]

So you want to limit the future to maximize the past?

Kopitar and Doughty are fantastic players but building around them instead of in spite of them is a ticket to the darkest reaches of the fabled black hole.

That's not what he is saying. Properly built rebuilds have bridge players. The gap between impact is a dozen years. You have to have a mid 20's star or core player to cross over. Otherwise you are gambling on every single one of the young players to not only succeed but flourish.

Trading from an overwhelming amount of youth for a young established star doesn't rob anything. It accentuates growth allows for flexibility.