Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster Discussion Part V
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bland
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Backup goalies only work if they accept the mentality of a backup. For a player of Quick's competitive nature, I highly doubt he is willing to accept that. It would be better to move him than to force feed him games that he doesn't deserve to play out of reverence for his accomplishments.
Quick is clearly the second best goaltender on this team.
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Regehr gave him a taste of his own medicine.
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They've become a rare breed. Luke Schenn used to be that type but he’s not that player anymore. Radko Gudas and Erik Cernak are probably the closest, and they stupidly gave away Cernak.
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I have no real idea as to why Frk is loved on here as much as he is. I don't think there's a spot on him on this roster, only Wagner is the only substitute to make and that's not gonna be a big addition at All.
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Quick would likely be the second best goalie in any competitive team he is traded to anyway. Of course, if Quick demands a trade, Blake would try to find a partner and trade him. However, if Quick is traded, he will likely be in the same boat as he is in LA. He wont be a clear cut no. 1. At least in LA, he can sort of be a 1B, is used to the team, and has his family here. Doubt he would want to move to Columbus or some other place with a small chance of being no.1.
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If Quick is moved we have to take back a keeper signed for next season at least, to expose in the expansion draft. So it’s not just a case of trading him, we have to get a serviceable backup as part of the deal.
When Frk comes back I’d bet Wagner is the next to be waived and Lisotte/Andersson are fighting not to be #13. The new guys are taking over...
Luff will clear, Wagner 50/50.
When Frk comes back I’d bet Wagner is the next to be waived and Lisotte/Andersson are fighting not to be #13. The new guys are taking over...
Luff will clear, Wagner 50/50.
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I’m not yet sold on him either but he immediately improves PP2 and he has chemistry with Vilardi. Him replacing Wagner will be a definite upgrade.
Bjornfot doubtful for tomorrow's game with the sharks. At least it's that and not out for certain or out indefinitely . So based on that, I hope that means no concussion.
Practice Notes - Bjornfot/Frk updates, Luff on waivers, Bally Sports West, Quotes - LA Kings Insider
Practice Notes - Bjornfot/Frk updates, Luff on waivers, Bally Sports West, Quotes - LA Kings Insider
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You gotta covet Wagner's speed. Frk doesn't bring much to the table. His shot and that's it. I'll take speed over that any day.
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Not with what he does with that speed, no. However, they are different players with different roles, you just cannot compare them in that way. Frk is a scorer and we could use another shoot first player and could easily end up 2RW once he gets a couple of games under his belt. He’s a better bet there than Carter at this point and he’s not getting waived. So it’s either Wagner or Lizotte that gets waived, if they keep Andersson up, that’s where the comparison needs to happen and it then becomes a simple choice.
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If Quick is traded it's because somebody wants to make a run and doesn't trust their netminding. I doubt Quick leaves unless he is given a chance at earning another Cup.
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Goals win games. We haven't had a natural goal scorer since Gaborik. Rewatch the 2014 playoffs and see how many huge goals he scored
Speed is great if you can do something more with it and shoot breakaway shots in to the goalie's chest.
Note the difference on a Wagner breakaway and what AA did last night
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I agree, I like Frk and hope he succeeds. But he’s a goal scorer hypothetically, he’s got 18 goals in 118 games. He’s got a hard slap shot but he seems to miss the net 90% of the time he winds up. He’ll be 28 in Oct, by this point he is what he is. There’s not much potential left.
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Yeah but speed backs off the defense. You can enter the zone easier and pass it to a more talented player trailing the play. I dont really think that Frk is an NHL player. Career AHLer.
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Yes, but the Kings have only had 2 lines going well, for the most part: Iafallo-Kopitar-Brown and Grundstrom-JAD-Moore (for like 10 games and yet Todd breaks them up??)
And all of: Vilardi, Athanisiou, Carter, Kempe have not gelled with any combo / grouping. Then there are the Wagner's, Amadios', Luff's that cannot play well with anyone,
for the most part. Lizotte? He just skates hard and works his azz off, but no offensive chances seem to happen.
Kempe goes out and scores 5 goals in 2 games against Gibson and now disappears? Look at Vilardi lst night. He made some great efforts and a few slick plays, but no one
was working with him. Carter is a shell of himself and was already failing Pearson and Toffoli for over 2 years and is even worse now.
The one thing Frk has, that no one else on the above list, is he and Vilardi work exceedingly well together and know each other well and it works.
They did with the Reign and were doing that last year, before covid stopped the season. Frk and Vilardi should be together when Frk returns
and probably with AA.
If the Kings want to make the playoffs, some hard decisions need to be made...but they won't do it, out of more respect for Quick and Carter, than
MORE RESPECT for the entire team. Namely, most can see (if they don't, they do not see or capable of discerning) that Petersen is superior
to Quick as of now. PERIOD. No more splitting games, ride your best goalie; Calvin Petersen. If he has a bad game, put in Quick.
Remove Carter. He's horrible. He brings nothing and cannot compete or produce. PERIOD. Who to play? Rasmus Kupari is legit and
the best option, short of acquiring a legit top 6 player via trade. Is Kupari capable and ready? Is it too much pressure? Please. He can flat
out play and better than Carter, for damn certain. Give him a shot at 2C. If too much after a game or 3, move in JAD to 2C and drop Rasmus
to 3C. JAD is unfazed and capable. Highly.
Look what just removing MacD does and playing Strand. Strand is 5-0-1 and was plus 3 in 9 minutes last night? Crazy?
It's not crazy to trust in the kids. Mikey Anderson has stepped up. JAD has stepped up. Moore has. Petersen has.
It's the kids that are taking the team higher, along with vets Kopi, Doughty and Brown. Quick and Carter? Not so much.
There are just better options NOW. But to go with better options, the hierarchy doe not want to do....because opting for
Petersen as #1 and removing Carter takes fortitude, vision, and guts...and it's easier to just tandem Quick / Petersen and
leave Carter out there, 14 minutes a night, floundering and not cutting it. Does nothing to help this team win. He just is incapable now.
Is Kupari the answer? Possibly. The question should rather be: Is Carter the answer, to propel this team? No.
(the ones that cannot say yes, choose to say, Carter is not a problem. Oh? If he's not helping propel his line and
this team, he certainly is a problem)
I think Frk with Vilardi and Kupari...Kempe with AA and JAD (find the right combos with these 6) could truly reap something better than there is now. And Lizotte, Andersson and Lemieux be good.
JAD can be a big part of getting the Kings into 4th. He's that good. Not him alone, of course. He's capable and one of the best players on the ice for the Kings every game now. Bet he could take 2C right now.
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cyclones22
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Frk has shown chemistry with Vilardi. Wagner has not. That alone makes it an easy choice for me.
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